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Old October 20th, 2015, 08:04 PM   #641
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What interests me is the huge differences between the rendering and the concrete structure they build so far. Can't imagine both will match up. Did they change the design of the base? Even with additional structures added later, it is hard for me to see that the finished building will look like the rendering.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 08:40 PM   #642
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What interests me is the huge differences between the rendering and the concrete structure they build so far. Can't imagine both will match up. Did they change the design of the base? Even with additional structures added later, it is hard for me to see that the finished building will look like the rendering.
I think they're putting the limestone cladding on later.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #643
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Could it be that what we see is the core? Maybe there will be a steel exo-structure that finishes off the shape so it will match the renderings.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #644
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I think they're putting the limestone cladding on later.
I was speaking about the shape of the building:

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Rendering:

green: existing parts
red: missing parts
(Sorry for painting in the rendering)

Maybe they will add the corners and the missing part in the middle above the podium later (were the second crane is rising).
I also noticed that the upper floors in this rendering (floor 6 and above) seem to have a hexagonal floorplan, where in reality the floors are rectangular.
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Old October 21st, 2015, 02:05 AM   #645
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There won't be a second crane for this small of a building. The white tower section you see is just there ready to be added so the current crane can climb.
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Old October 21st, 2015, 11:19 AM   #646
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The facts are that besides those early images there aren't any official renderings online, not on the architects' websites, not on the developers' websites, the elevation on the construction site is markedly different from those early images, and the base is already markedly different from those early images.

It's safe to assume that it'll look different in many ways.
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Old October 21st, 2015, 12:13 PM   #647
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That building is gonna be so stylish that it could even be copied in Dubai!
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Old October 21st, 2015, 07:57 PM   #648
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There won't be a second crane for this small of a building. The white tower section you see is just there ready to be added so the current crane can climb.
That massive cantilever it's sitting on sure looks like the base for another crane to rise. It's kinda close to the other one though. Maybe they are taking that one down.
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Old October 21st, 2015, 08:14 PM   #649
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Seriously, that large of a cantilever can't just be there for supporting a tiny crane addition
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Old November 2nd, 2015, 10:06 PM   #650
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Old November 2nd, 2015, 10:51 PM   #651
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Seriously, that large of a cantilever can't just be there for supporting a tiny crane addition
yes, thats crane grillage.

consider the height of the building
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Old November 2nd, 2015, 11:01 PM   #652
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The cantiliver is a staging platform.... not only for the crane links but also for other construction material and equipment.
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Old November 2nd, 2015, 11:44 PM   #653
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This is further than I imagined it would be, niceeee.
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Old November 3rd, 2015, 10:57 PM   #654
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Vornado sure is bullish about this tower

Vornado spending $5,000 a foot to build 220 CPS
Over half the units at the Robert A.M. Stern-designed project are in contract

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Vornado Realty Trust is spending an extraordinary $5,000 per square foot to develop 220 Central Park South, the real estate investment trust disclosed Tuesday. That price tag includes $1,500 per foot for the land and $3,500 per foot in hard, soft and financial costs, according to Vornado CEO StevenRoth.

“The building has the largest loss factor of any building of its type intentionally, so the amenity packages” – including multiple lobbies, a motor court, garage and swimming pools “are extraordinary and are catering to this marketplace,” he said. Roth also revealed that more than half of the building’s 118 units are in contract.

Fourteen of the units went for north of $50 million, some with record-breaking price points, Roth added during the company’s third-quarter earnings call. “Our margins are superb and are holding with each sale,” he said. The total sellout for the luxury condominium project is nearly $3 billion, according to the Attorney General’s office.


The Robert A.M. Stern-designed building has seven penthouses, including five units with price tags north of $50 million. Penthouse 73, a 9,500-square-foot condo asking $100 million, is reportedly in contract for more than $10,500 per foot. Two other penthouses, Penthouses 75 and 76, don’t have price tags, fueling speculation that they could be combined into a single, 14,000-square-foot mega-unit.

Although buyers haven’t been disclosed, hedge funder Ken Griffin, founder and CEO of Citadel, is reportedly looking to combine multiple penthouses into a $200 million-plus pad. Previously, The Real Deal reported that a Qatari buyer was eyeing a $250 million spread. During the earnings call, Roth said domestic buyers comprise the majority of those scooping up units at 220 CPS.

He said 45 percent of buyers are New Yorkers purchasing a primary residence and 30 percent are Americans living in other cities.


In the third quarter, Vornado increased its construction budget at 220 CPS by $300 million to a total of $1.3 billion. “A lot of it is catching up the budget, which we should have done three months ago,” said Roth. “A lot of it is expansion of the program, adding cost, delivering more product, better finishes.” But Roth also said construction costs in New York are inflated because of the “enormous number of cranes” in the sky. “There are a handful of contractors who are experts in each trade [and] those guys are running out of capacity,” he said. “There is a bidding premium to get timely delivery of products and services.”

Construction at 220 CPS is currently at the ninth floor and is expected to be completed in 2018. Earlier this week, Vornado secured a $750 million term loan for its luxury condo development. That financing came just two months after the REIT upsized its loan from Bank of China, receiving an additional $350 million for a total of $950 million.

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Old November 4th, 2015, 01:58 AM   #655
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Old November 12th, 2015, 06:38 AM   #657
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Old November 17th, 2015, 01:32 AM   #658
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There won't be a second crane for this small of a building. The white tower section you see is just there ready to be added so the current crane can climb.
Its a different size tower section. and as you can see it is for a second crane as by the photos on this page.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...53917&page=338
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Old November 17th, 2015, 07:58 AM   #660
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The facade looks very blind. Not a lot of windows it seems.
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