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Old October 16th, 2013, 08:07 AM   #101
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I wonder if this tower will have some meat to it or if it will be skinny. Does any one know the total sq ft for development this site has?
472k sq ft @ 920 ft height
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Old October 16th, 2013, 03:07 PM   #102
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A Robert AM Stern classical NYC tower should do a lot to mitigate the possible ugliness of 225 w 57th street, not to mention the definite ugliness of the postwar garbage on Central Park South.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 07:44 PM   #103
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According to the 15th Oct. 2013, NYT, 220 CPS will be approximately 900 feet tall.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/ny...ZFkBr4O3nZvLWQ





Mr. Roth will shift the site of his building slightly to the west, while Mr. Barnett edges his site eastward, so that both skyscrapers can capitalize on what may be their most lucrative features: Central Park views.
Interesting! for some reason my understanding the shift was the other way.

I thought 220 CPS was shifting East and Nordstrom was shifting West.

Dunno

edit: never mind. got confused there for a sec. The cantilever would push the tower further east away from 220 cps positioned a little further west. lol

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Old October 17th, 2013, 03:27 AM   #104
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Old October 17th, 2013, 04:18 AM   #105
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Any renders?

They better come up with something good! Not another boring glass box- this is one hell of a place with the unobstructed views on the park and from the park.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 07:56 PM   #107
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SEC filing from 2011 says this project should costs anywhere from $400 - $425 Million.

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As part of the process of obtaining the required approvals to demolish and develop our 220 Central Park South property into a new residential tower, we have committed to fund the estimated project cost of approximately $400,000,000 to $425,000,000. In addition, we expect to fund additional capital to certain of our partially owned entities aggregating approximately $264,000,000.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 08:00 PM   #108
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Robert Stern something will be the architect. He may design a 30 park place look-alike at this site.

It needs to have a decent crown like the one on World Wide Plaza.

I was thinking something more akin to 15 CPW on steroids...




Stern is quite the architectural historian so he may respect the CPS streetwall for the first 20 or so floors. Then after a terraced setback, shoot up a Candela-esque shaft to one side (per the arrangement with Extell) to complete the full 920 ft.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 08:13 PM   #109
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I believe that a low rise portion will sit on the small CPS footprint, and the bulk will sit on the 58th St lot that Extell sold Vornado as part of their settlement.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #110
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I think that would be ideal. A 920 ft. face right on CPS would look strange, but if it's set back half a block, it'll have a nice tiered effect. Really looking forward to the renders when they come out. We were lucky enough to get a Robert A.M. Stern tower down in L.A. a couple years ago, The Century:


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That's probably curvier and more modern than what we'll see on CPS, but I like that he can make a 21st Century condo tower feel classic. And we probably will see some version of the "shoulders" he seems so fond of.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 01:45 AM   #111
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This photo shows buildings that Vornad o and Extell owned on58th st. Vorna do owns all of them now, and they've all been razed. (The grey brick structure on the right is the back of 220 CPS.) I believe that the tower's footprint will site on these parcels on 58th.



220 CPS (and the 58th St annex) are outlined in red. The three additional sites that Vornad o now owns are just to the west of what's outlined (on 58th).

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Old October 22nd, 2013, 05:26 AM   #112
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This is going to be very nice.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 06:06 AM   #113
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I was walking west across town this afternoon and as i approached 7th Avenue on 59th st I could see this mini helicopter hovering about the site at 220 CPS. I was a few seconds to late to get it at roof height where the sky was the background so this is about 6 or 7 stories up. It landed behind the gate on the site but I couldn't find anyone there to tell me what it was.

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I'm guessing it is to show future central park views, very lucky to see it.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 08:22 AM   #115
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I'm guessing it is to show future central park views, very lucky to see it.
That would make perfect sense.
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Old October 27th, 2013, 03:38 AM   #116
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Went by the place today and here is what we have on the whole of Central Park south. All in all lots and lots of building that can be torn down without any loss to NYC architecture. Most of them are dull, uninspiring 1950s residential ones.
here we go

Park Hotel - have got to go.
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0081-20131026-190631 by Alex Flint, on Flickr[/IMG]

the building immediately to the left of Park hotel is kind of nice, but the one next to it - can be torn down.
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this one is worth saving
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0083-20131026-190637 by Alex Flint, on Flickr

to the right (west) of Park Hotel stands this... nothing worth saving
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0085-20131026-190643 by Alex Flint, on Flickr[/IMG]

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corner of Central Park south and 7th avenue is kind of nicely done
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to the west is this. ok at most, but nothing special
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after this building is the 220 Central Park South hole. You can see why Extell is son concerned about its tower - it si directly behind this plot
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more to the west is a very nice old building GAINSBOROUGH STUDIOS at 222 Central Park South
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number 226 is again nothing special nothing
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and finally at the end of Central Park South and corner of Broadway is this brick building with the onlyh interesting nice part - its superstructure on top.
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Old October 28th, 2013, 02:47 PM   #117
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to the right (west) of Park Hotel stands this... nothing worth saving
I agree. Nothing that should stand in the way of a new large skyscraper.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:24 PM   #118
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RAMSA's current NYC projects.

220 Central Park South, 45 E. 60th & 30 Park Place. A busy guy.

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Robert A.M. Stern’s buildings seem like they’ve always been there. What’s the crime in that?

http://nymag.com/arts/architecture/f...stern-2013-11/
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Old November 20th, 2013, 10:25 AM   #119
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And he teaches too!

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Old December 20th, 2013, 03:01 PM   #120
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YIMBY reports: Construction Update: 220 Central Park South

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