The Royal Docks and Surrounding Area - Page 7

Plaistow · January 25th, 2012, 10:52 PM

New Canning Town centre plans are approved

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news...oved_1_1182734

royaldocksresident · January 29th, 2012, 08:43 PM

Hi all,

I came across this forum for the first time last week and found it extremely informative (thanks!). I have lived in the Royal Docks for about 4 and a half years now and try to keep up to date with developments in the area.

While browsing the other day I came across the following website which appears to outline a plan (quite an overhaul) for some parts of the Royal Docks. Not sure if anyone else has come across this before, whether it is simply old plans that ever took off or something which is still in the long-term pipeline..... Interestingly enough the plan appears to show "Aloft" the hotel owned by the ExCeL immediately to the East of the Exhibition Hall....

Amongst other more familiar concepts (B. floating village and A. Tidal Basin site) it talks about some very interesting and major plans:

C. A new site called "central Excel" located behind the existing Westgate apartments and Crown Plaza and:

D. the replacement of part of the exhibition centre with a new "mixed use urban development"

http://www.globalgunter.com/frs-index.htm

Thoughts?

royaldocksresident · January 29th, 2012, 09:08 PM

Three more images (first, second and second-last images) of the mixed use urban development:

http://www.globalgunter.com/frs-arch.htm

Metroguy78 · January 30th, 2012, 11:51 AM

Also live in the Royal Docks so that is a fascinating read, thanks for the link.

Some of those propositions look quite over the top, but if it fits anywhere it's here where it is seeing a massive change and investment.

Metroguy78 · January 31st, 2012, 04:08 PM

Im not sure how accurate or recent that site is, i just noticed they haven't got the seimens centre included on the west side of the dock?

jack_jones · February 1st, 2012, 05:45 PM

I think you find that the designs and masterplanning on the website you found are a couple of years old, because it has a different designed building where the Siemens Centre is currently being constructed.

royaldocksresident · February 4th, 2012, 01:10 AM

Yes that's true. Even the suggested "floating village" at second read is all residential so very different.

On the floating village, seems to have all gone a bit silent. Anyone know anything further?

What else is happening.....

Tesco going in will be a massive boost to the area.

The London Pleasure Gardens seems to be moving along. They have the BLOC festival lined up for later this year. Check out the following promo video for a view of the millennium mills in a different light!!

http://vimeo.com/m/34506310

Esen · February 7th, 2012, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royaldocksresident

Yes that's true. Even the suggested "floating village" at second read is all residential so very different.

On the floating village, seems to have all gone a bit silent. Anyone know anything further?

What else is happening.....

Tesco going in will be a massive boost to the area.

The London Pleasure Gardens seems to be moving along. They have the BLOC festival lined up for later this year. Check out the following promo video for a view of the millennium mills in a different light!!

http://vimeo.com/m/34506310

Is there a new Tesco development underway?

royaldocksresident · February 7th, 2012, 03:00 PM

Hi there, Tesco Express will be moving into the ground floor of the Oxygen apartment building in the next few months. I believe the subdivision of the premises have already commenced

jack_jones · February 9th, 2012, 05:03 PM

More detailed images of the Gallions Quarter Scheme located in the Royal Albert dock have been released. The scheme will contain an estimated 750 - 850 new homes as well as retail space. A masterplan for the area proposes a combination of medium-density residential development, complemented by activity-generating uses..

When complete, the Gallions Quarter will comprise an exciting and vibrant residential led scheme that will provide a sustainable and high quality neighbourhood in a waterside environment.

The Current Site:

The Proposals:

A number of high rise towers will be placed around the site:

The Western edge of the ‘Armada 1 South’ is marked by an 12 storey block. It signifies the key pedestrian route from the DLR at Gallions Interchange past Gallions Square to Gallions Green. A generous and visible residential lobby occupies the western side of the ground floor. This lobby rises up through the building to give access to the communal courtyard and is naturally ventilated with east facing windows.
On the south side of the ground floor are a food store and a number of retail spaces. These face onto The DLR and Gallions Square with its café pavilion. Above the ground floor are 46 apartments over eleven floors with a percentage mix of 46% one-bed units, 13% two-bed units and 41% three-bed units. Each unit has been designed in accordance with Lifetime Homes along with the Mayors Design Guide. A bike store and bin store are located on the ground floor next to the lobby. All the dwellings have been arranged to maximize enclosure, views, and sunlight. All dwellings have a private outdoor space and have access to the south facing communal courtyard. As the building increases in height, the form folds back to minimize shadow and optimize high-level terraces. The lower floors have a different arrangement on the north side to minimize the impact of the low level industrial shed on the neighbouring site. This is achieved without any costly changes in structure or shaft locations. At this stage the robust exteriors and delicate interiors concept has been developed with a finer scale of detail of hit and miss brick texture applied to the interior facades along with projecting balconies. Mortar is recessed. Balconies and windows are lined with another material and texture that brings the finer, more domestic quality close to the inhabitant. The external façade is much more robust, with flush mortar and with soldier coursing expressing the floor slabs and inset balconies. Larger scale inflections in the brick envelope break the form and scale of the building.

The Cafe Pavilion:

delores · February 9th, 2012, 10:16 PM

Looks great.

mogwai83 · February 12th, 2012, 07:05 PM

Will smell terrible though, main reason that site has never really taken off before is thanks to the sewage works just up the river at Beckton. The stench makes it as far as Leamouth on hot summer days !

wawd · February 29th, 2012, 01:10 PM

love the cladding on this (hotel?) next to Excel:
image hosted on flickr

Cable Car London Construction by wawd, on Flickr

annamaria4711 · February 29th, 2012, 02:33 PM

Ohhh gosh...sorry I don't...tropical colours in our (UK) light just do not work, Mediterranean, Caribbean yeah OK... but cross the channel and its a no no in my books, that does not mean no colour...what it means is a different tonality and depth of colour..ie british racing green, royal blue they are deeper colours but work well in our type of sunlight...

wawd · February 29th, 2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annamaria4711

Ohhh gosh...sorry I don't...tropical colours in our (UK) light just do not work

they work really well for me, and everyone else who was with me in the train at the time

Metroguy78 · February 29th, 2012, 03:20 PM

I find that image alittle mis leading, i walk the dog past here every day and in person the colour isnt as bright, much nicer and reminds me of the old Nokia 5110 (the one that changed colour in different light from green to blue).

Shmunkey · February 29th, 2012, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annamaria4711

Ohhh gosh...sorry I don't...tropical colours in our (UK) light just do not work

I'm sorry, what? This is your opinion, fine, but I'm sorry you're just very wrong and misinformed.

Also is there any chance you can structure your posts correctly? =) It's very hard reading your posts.

TedStriker · February 29th, 2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mogwai83

Will smell terrible though, main reason that site has never really taken off before is thanks to the sewage works just up the river at Beckton. The stench makes it as far as Leamouth on hot summer days !

I'd love it if this smelly problem leads to complaints and legal action from any forthcoming occupants.

wawd · February 29th, 2012, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metroguy78

I find that image alittle mis leading, i walk the dog past here every day and in person the colour isnt as bright, much nicer and reminds me of the old Nokia 5110 (the one that changed colour in different light from green to blue).

must have been that special seasonal sunlight, or perhaps i just upped the saturation for emphasis

i think a little too much for annamaria4711

jack_jones · March 2nd, 2012, 06:15 PM

Olympic rings at the Royal Docks:

January 29th, 2012, 08:43 PM	#122
royaldocksresident Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 14 Likes (Received): 0	Future of the Royal Docks, or just an old plan? Hi all, I came across this forum for the first time last week and found it extremely informative (thanks!). I have lived in the Royal Docks for about 4 and a half years now and try to keep up to date with developments in the area. While browsing the other day I came across the following website which appears to outline a plan (quite an overhaul) for some parts of the Royal Docks. Not sure if anyone else has come across this before, whether it is simply old plans that ever took off or something which is still in the long-term pipeline..... Interestingly enough the plan appears to show "Aloft" the hotel owned by the ExCeL immediately to the East of the Exhibition Hall.... Amongst other more familiar concepts (B. floating village and A. Tidal Basin site) it talks about some very interesting and major plans: C. A new site called "central Excel" located behind the existing Westgate apartments and Crown Plaza and: D. the replacement of part of the exhibition centre with a new "mixed use urban development" http://www.globalgunter.com/frs-index.htm Thoughts?

February 9th, 2012, 05:03 PM	#130
jack_jones Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 243 Likes (Received): 7	Gallions Quarter More detailed images of the Gallions Quarter Scheme located in the Royal Albert dock have been released. The scheme will contain an estimated 750 - 850 new homes as well as retail space. A masterplan for the area proposes a combination of medium-density residential development, complemented by activity-generating uses.. When complete, the Gallions Quarter will comprise an exciting and vibrant residential led scheme that will provide a sustainable and high quality neighbourhood in a waterside environment. The Current Site: The Proposals: A number of high rise towers will be placed around the site: The Western edge of the ‘Armada 1 South’ is marked by an 12 storey block. It signifies the key pedestrian route from the DLR at Gallions Interchange past Gallions Square to Gallions Green. A generous and visible residential lobby occupies the western side of the ground floor. This lobby rises up through the building to give access to the communal courtyard and is naturally ventilated with east facing windows. On the south side of the ground floor are a food store and a number of retail spaces. These face onto The DLR and Gallions Square with its café pavilion. Above the ground floor are 46 apartments over eleven floors with a percentage mix of 46% one-bed units, 13% two-bed units and 41% three-bed units. Each unit has been designed in accordance with Lifetime Homes along with the Mayors Design Guide. A bike store and bin store are located on the ground floor next to the lobby. All the dwellings have been arranged to maximize enclosure, views, and sunlight. All dwellings have a private outdoor space and have access to the south facing communal courtyard. As the building increases in height, the form folds back to minimize shadow and optimize high-level terraces. The lower floors have a different arrangement on the north side to minimize the impact of the low level industrial shed on the neighbouring site. This is achieved without any costly changes in structure or shaft locations. At this stage the robust exteriors and delicate interiors concept has been developed with a finer scale of detail of hit and miss brick texture applied to the interior facades along with projecting balconies. Mortar is recessed. Balconies and windows are lined with another material and texture that brings the finer, more domestic quality close to the inhabitant. The external façade is much more robust, with flush mortar and with soldier coursing expressing the floor slabs and inset balconies. Larger scale inflections in the brick envelope break the form and scale of the building. The Cafe Pavilion: Last edited by jack_jones; February 9th, 2012 at 05:09 PM.

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wawd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Greenwich Peninsula Posts: 1,477 Likes (Received): 0	love the cladding on this (hotel?) next to Excel: image hosted on flickr Cable Car London Construction by wawd, on Flickr __________________ wawd's flickr

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January 25th, 2012, 10:52 PM	#121
Plaistow Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 281 Likes (Received): 0	New Canning Town centre plans are approved http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news...oved_1_1182734

January 29th, 2012, 09:08 PM	#123
royaldocksresident Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 14 Likes (Received): 0	Three more images (first, second and second-last images) of the mixed use urban development: http://www.globalgunter.com/frs-arch.htm

January 30th, 2012, 11:51 AM	#124
Metroguy78 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 612 Likes (Received): 0	Also live in the Royal Docks so that is a fascinating read, thanks for the link. Some of those propositions look quite over the top, but if it fits anywhere it's here where it is seeing a massive change and investment.

January 31st, 2012, 04:08 PM	#125
Metroguy78 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 612 Likes (Received): 0	Im not sure how accurate or recent that site is, i just noticed they haven't got the seimens centre included on the west side of the dock?

February 1st, 2012, 05:45 PM	#126
jack_jones Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 243 Likes (Received): 7	I think you find that the designs and masterplanning on the website you found are a couple of years old, because it has a different designed building where the Siemens Centre is currently being constructed.

February 4th, 2012, 01:10 AM	#127
royaldocksresident Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 14 Likes (Received): 0	Yes that's true. Even the suggested "floating village" at second read is all residential so very different. On the floating village, seems to have all gone a bit silent. Anyone know anything further? What else is happening..... Tesco going in will be a massive boost to the area. The London Pleasure Gardens seems to be moving along. They have the BLOC festival lined up for later this year. Check out the following promo video for a view of the millennium mills in a different light!! http://vimeo.com/m/34506310

February 7th, 2012, 03:00 PM	#129
royaldocksresident Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 14 Likes (Received): 0	Hi there, Tesco Express will be moving into the ground floor of the Oxygen apartment building in the next few months. I believe the subdivision of the premises have already commenced

February 9th, 2012, 10:16 PM	#131
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,570 Likes (Received): 25	Looks great.

February 12th, 2012, 07:05 PM	#132
mogwai83 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London Posts: 639 Likes (Received): 5	Will smell terrible though, main reason that site has never really taken off before is thanks to the sewage works just up the river at Beckton. The stench makes it as far as Leamouth on hot summer days !

February 29th, 2012, 02:33 PM	#134
annamaria4711 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,033 Likes (Received): 2	Ohhh gosh...sorry I don't...tropical colours in our (UK) light just do not work, Mediterranean, Caribbean yeah OK... but cross the channel and its a no no in my books, that does not mean no colour...what it means is a different tonality and depth of colour..ie british racing green, royal blue they are deeper colours but work well in our type of sunlight...

February 29th, 2012, 03:20 PM	#136
Metroguy78 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 612 Likes (Received): 0	I find that image alittle mis leading, i walk the dog past here every day and in person the colour isnt as bright, much nicer and reminds me of the old Nokia 5110 (the one that changed colour in different light from green to blue).

March 2nd, 2012, 06:15 PM	#140
jack_jones Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 243 Likes (Received): 7	Olympic rings at the Royal Docks: