Maritime News and Discussions

[612bv3]

I like the idea of ferry system in the Pasig River. It will certainly make Filipinos appreciative the Pasig River more and make them think about cleaning it. Does anybody know if the Pasig River is a tidal river, a non tidal river or both?

[renell]

well a superferry is a different proposition to a say... a river ferry. For the passengers it's easier to bail out since it's in a river, there's two sides to swim to. i really hope this one gets pushed through, i don't see why it could be NAIA3 complicated. well i don't see why anything could be as complicated as T3

[Forumwalker]

Originally Posted by sandrin

Yes, I want to see a Visayas Inter-island Cruise. From Western Panay (IloIlo, Cebu, Bohol etc.) to Eastern Bicol Mighty Mayon. Central Philippines Islands have alot to offer, we only need more hotels. Travelling by sea more relaxing methinks.

option 1: you can start in Boracay, Aklan(by plane from MLA) then travel by land to Iloilo then to Bacolod City by fastcraft (1hr) then land travel to Dumaguete City (5-6hrs) then fastcraft to Cebu via Tagbilaran City, Bohol(1h:30m tag-ceb, 2h+ dgte-tag). in cebu, you can ride just about any sea vessel to Ormoc/Tacloban City, Leyte. in Leyte, you can ride land transport to samar via San Juanico bridge. i think there's a bus transport to Bicol with the help of a barge. you just had your Island Hopping XP!

option 2: from iloilo you can ride a 12-15hr boat (Trans Asia/Cokaliong) to Cebu. you usually arrive 9am in the morning. from cebu, as usual, you can just go anywhere ^_^.

the visayas islands have the best inter-island transport in the country and it's a fast and cheap way to travel compared to air. before, it used to be air transport but planes are used nowadays if someone needs to be somewhere in less than 8 hours.

[richard fischer]

FBMA Marine, an Aboitiz fully owned shipbuilding company, stationed on the island of Cebu, seems to be extremly successfull ! it just completed a katamaran super ferry for 1300 pax for the Netherlands, and has taken an order for 2 vessels for an american contractor. please google >Aboitiz FBMA Marine< for more details.
rds. from philpal

[fox_planner]

I really can't wait for the Pasig River ferry project to push through. This would make people more conscious of the waterfront. Everyone knows that the River links muncipalities in the Metro together yet we don't make the most of it. Hopefully it would help ease traffic off motorways too.

Has anyone here ridden the smaller boats that run along the Pasig?

[thomasian]

I've taken boats in Pasig several times but it's not one of those that run along it.
It just crosses to the other side of the river.

[bustero]

I've ridden on the boats, the owner was trying tosell the company because it was losing money.

A very efficient ride I must add. In the end it turned out to be quite the loss maker due to expense of the craft and running cost, plus on rainy days when it was hard to get to boat people did not use it!

[renell]

I wonder where that ferry planned in SM MoA's masterplan will go.. Corregidor? Other parts of MM?

[thomasian]

Subic?

[rajiris]

I'm currently undergoing my thesis which is on North Harbor.
Still have a lot to research about so if any of you guys can comment and help me out..it'd be appreciated a lot. gawa din ako thread here about that

Raj's Thesis

[rajiris]

I'm a 5th year architecture student from UST currently developing my thesis.

It is an Integrated Passenger Terminal in North Harbor.
any comments and suggestions about the site or the project?

My Thesis Blog

I'd like to introduce a new passenger terminal that will enhance the North Harbor site back to glory.

First of all..the Philippines is an Archipelago. Water plays a major role in this country. Sadly, it is being taken for granted and being left underdeveloped compared to other Land-based transportion. Environmental issues can be discussed comparing different modes of transportation and selecting which provide the least negative effect to the environment.

Also..North Harbor is the country's leading domestic port. this project aims to bring that stature into focus.

Discussion begin!

[lochinvar]

North Harbor is located in Tondo. Tourists and/or passengers upon hearing that word are usually having second thoughts. Is that also part of your thesis?

[Mango]

Good question. I also want to see the answer

[renell]

Interesting stuff mate I'll have more of a read on it soon

[richard fischer]

now before we really get involved, how about some aerial pics and a map of the north harbour complex for a general overview ?

that comment from lochinvar is very straightforward and realistic. tondo has to be included in that renovation and renewal plan. packed together, it will have quite an impact on revitalisation for northern manila. economically it could be a job-mashine for the people of tondo too. now that's probably not exactly what you had in mind, but just think of the changes it could have on the manileros north the pasig !
revitalization of old habours in europe have had quite an impact onto their hinterlands. london's dockyards, hamburg's speicherstadt, amsterdams piers, rotterdams centre harbour. all these projects are of tremendous change for the environment and economy of these cities. just google into the cities websites, and you will find helpful infos for your plan.
philpal

[rajiris]

As this is only a thesis, we are not limited to being too much realistic. Although i have to base it to the current situation.

As of Tondo development itself, it is not part of my project scope. I only limited the details of my project to the Passenger terminal itself. But i will portray it's positive effects to the its periphery namely Tondo district. I will have to be able to say that the New terminal will have to be beneficial to Tondo people, but their development itself will have to be handled by other departments.

I will post a site description, pictures and all, soon. Right now we're currently in the space programming aspect of our thesis book..As soon as i have time i will post new things.

Your ideas and comments here will be very helpful to my thesis defense as the inputs you guys provide are those that can only come from experienced people which will add to my thesis advisers'.


Thanks so much for anything guys! ^_^

will update post asap.

[bustero]

I've not been to North Harbor in a long time, before Puting bato was an outcrop with a lot of squatters, now i understand it's part of the container terminal. Most of the piers are controlled by private companies though. I don't they want to use a common one. It's a good idea but may require a lot of pressure for them to use it.

[rajiris]

yup, a lot of pressure will be needed for these shipping companies to use the integrated passenger terminal as they have a lot of concerns with it's administration and costs.

i will do my best to address those concerns architecturally (if ever that is possible) but in my thesis, i will "assume" that this passenger terminal is "required' to be occupied by the companies if they still want to stay in North Harbor. This rule is for the overall improvement of the North Harbor and so is required..

that is that as of now..

[david_skywalker]

ragssssssssssss!!!!!!!

[richard fischer]

rajiris,
if you want to push ahead and be a prosperous architect one day, you should integrate social and economic aspects of the people who will work and live in the vicinity. it´s not just about a building and it´s design. architecture is responsibility. you are automatically forming what a population will do with and around it. if you do not take that under consideration, you are planning for the scrap, ´cause your building will just not have the impact you desire it to have and what it will be built for. integrate this into your thesis, and you will have astonishing results and support from your professors and, most important, in real life later when you practise, from your clients.