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Old April 27th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #81
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I'm like you, when I visit a city I love to leave the tourist areas.
Cerralbo Museum is not one of the most important and famous museums of the city, even the most "madrileños" don't know it, but I think it's a interesting place.
Here a thread full of pics:
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It was only a example but there are a lot of undervalued museums in this city, sometimes I think the administration don't know how to promote Madrid.

Did you visit Barrio de Salamanca? It's the most important nineteenth ensanche of Madrid, one of the most elegant places in the city, and all the streets (especially Serrano and Ortega y Gasset) are full of luxury shops and jewelries.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #82
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IMHO I would have gone to Segovia or Avila for a day
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Old April 27th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #83
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this is one of my favourite threads, madrid is just so amazing
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Old April 28th, 2011, 06:13 PM   #84
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It´s true you have seen lots of places many tourists don´t visit.

There´re still more interesting areas like Salesas or Salamanca or Moncloa or COnde Duque or the bullring.

The first four are of the XIX century, in general the first two are specially well preserved and the third is a place of students and parks near the university, and the forth a place of cosy restaurants, galleries and it´s near Plaza de España where your hotel was.
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@buho: I went to Toledo for one day, something I don't regret. The pictures are posted in a separate thread. We tried to go to Segovia, but the staff on the hotel told us to get to Atocha station. When we were in Atocha noone could speak english, not even in the tourist info, but my girlfriend understood some spanish and they told us it really was Chamartin and not Atocha that the trains to Segovia departs from! And when we were there the prices were 3 times higher because it was already 4 o'clock ( about 100 euros roundtrip, way too expensive, it's like an airplane ticket)! And since my girlfriend had to leave the next day we lost the opportunity to see Segovia because of the stupid staff, so I decided to go to Toledo alone instead, another day (cheaper and not so complicated) and it was really an awesome city.

@The rest: I don't know if it's counted as Salamanca, but I walked along Paseo de la Castellana between Plaza de Colon and the Azca district. It was on a sunday so the area was pretty dead, but looked nice. Of course I would like to visit all the other areas as well, but that would be impossible in just one week despite we walked very fast with few pauses (well we took a few at cafés and restaurants, but I think you have to to take in the atmosphere). I think many tourists miss Salamanca cause it's a bit off from the city center and there is so many things that draw attention in the historical center that I can understand that many people don't leave the area.

I visited Moncloa. There are a lot more pictures left, they will be posted very soon.
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In this page you can travel to Segovia on bus with 6.85 euros in one hour and half. The bus station is pretty near to Principe Pio train station (La Sepulvedana).

http://www.lasepulvedana.es/

The page is available in english.
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@buho: I went to Toledo for one day, something I don't regret. The pictures are posted in a separate thread. We tried to go to Segovia, but the staff on the hotel told us to get to Atocha station. When we were in Atocha noone could speak english, not even in the tourist info, but my girlfriend understood some spanish and they told us it really was Chamartin and not Atocha that the trains to Segovia departs from! And when we were there the prices were 3 times higher because it was already 4 o'clock ( about 100 euros roundtrip, way too expensive, it's like an airplane ticket)! And since my girlfriend had to leave the next day we lost the opportunity to see Segovia because of the stupid staff, so I decided to go to Toledo alone instead, another day (cheaper and not so complicated) and it was really an awesome city.

@The rest: I don't know if it's counted as Salamanca, but I walked along Paseo de la Castellana between Plaza de Colon and the Azca district. It was on a sunday so the area was pretty dead, but looked nice. Of course I would like to visit all the other areas as well, but that would be impossible in just one week despite we walked very fast with few pauses (well we took a few at cafés and restaurants, but I think you have to to take in the atmosphere). I think many tourists miss Salamanca cause it's a bit off from the city center and there is so many things that draw attention in the historical center that I can understand that many people don't leave the area.

I visited Moncloa. There are a lot more pictures left, they will be posted very soon.
That´s crazy. It´s a pity you couldn´t go to Segovia. It´s very near by train if you know how to go.

I think you didn´t go either to Salamanca. It´s in the pictures of expensive boutiques here, at the east of Castellana if you go from Colón to Azca.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...621026&page=71

Anyway you have more reasons to come back to Madrid ():

-Visiting Segovia.
-Knowing the new park along the river.
-Knowing the new town hall inside.
-Knowing Salamanca neibourhood.
-¿A new skyscraper in few years in the north of Castellana when you come back?
-¿more?

Madly waiting for your next pictures
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Old April 29th, 2011, 09:51 PM   #88
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Yes and see Cerralbo Museum, Thyssen-Bornemisza making trips to El Escorial, Aranjuez, Avila and much more...I would like to go back some day but I rarely make a trip to the same place in short intervals because there are still so many cities (in the world and Spain) that I have never visited. At first I planned to see Valencia, Benidorm and Alicante too but I decided it was better to focus on one or two cities, cause I knew Madrid had a lot to see!
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Talking about more pictures:

PALACIO

-Palacio Real, Almudena Cathedral, Plaza de Oriente, Plaza de Isabel II, Campo del Mori, Jardines de Sabartani

This part is about the Palacio district, where the Royal Palace, Palacio Real, lies. Almudena Cathedral, Campo del Moro, Plaza Oriente, Plaza Isabel II and Principe Pio are also in the surroundings. Palacio is one of the nicest areas in Madrid, relaxed and small scale with mostly pedestrian streets. It is just a short walk from Plaza de Espana, Plaza Mayor and Puerta del Sol. Palacio Real, the largest palace in Europe of its kind, was built for the Habsburg family.


Palacio Real:

Palacio Real, The Royal Palace, is the largest palace of its kind in Europe. It was built for the Austrian Habsburg family as a replacement for their old castle, that burnt
down. It was drawn by G.B. Sacchetti, with inspiration from Bernini's drawings of The Louvre in Paris. It was built between 1738 and 1764 and contains 2000 rooms,
but only 50 are open to public.

Half of the halls are open to public, but I never visited due to extremely long queues.

The palace might be impressive, but the current Spanish king prefers to live in Palacio de Zarzuela outside the city. Perhaps because of privacy issues.

The entrance to Palacio Real is guarded by a royal guard.

The palace's Neo Classical facade. It was the principal royal residence until Alfonso XIII went into exile in 1931. Joseph Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington also
lived here briefly.



Tourists outside the gates of the Royal Palace.

View towards the outskirts, closely bordering the city center, the Sierra de Guadarrama mountains and part of the palace. Note the zeppelin in the sky!
Almudena Cathedral:

This is the line to the Royal Palace, in front of Almudena Cathedral!

Almudena Cathedral, Catedral de Nuestra Señora la Almudena, is more or less part of the Royal Palace complex. It is the most famous church in Madrid.
It is really huge, 104m long and 74m wide.

When Madrid became the capital of Spain in 1561, King Philips II wanted a cathedral for the city. But political turbulences and opposition from the then larger city Toledo (!), postponed the construciton. In 1868 Madrid's female patron saint, Virgin Almudena, received the permission from Toledo to construct the new church, that became a cathedral. Construction begun in 1883, but wasn't declared officially completed until 1993! Other difficulities have been critics of the Neo-Gothic facade, contrasting to the Neo-Classical Palace. The current cathedral is more Neo-Classical.


The shadow of the cathedral, towards the palace.


The entrance to the cathedral.

A glimpse of the interior of the cathedral (I didn't go inside).
Views from the Royal Palace/Almudena:

Southwest Madrid, commie block skyline.
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Jardines de Sabartani:


The entrance to Jardines de Sabartani, right next to the castle.

Jardines de Sabartani, the royal gardens with its perfectly cutted trees.

A man washing himself in Jardines de Sabartani!
Calle de Bailén:

Calle de Bailén is the promenade next to the castle.

Santa Teresa church, medieval revival church with a neobyzantine dome, built in 1923-1928.


Looking towards Plaza de España.

Plaza de Oriente:


Plaza de Oriente is the square right in front of the Royal Palace. It is filled with sculptures, trees and gardens.

The equestrian statue of King Philip IV.

The entrance of the palace seen from Plaza de Oriente.

The gardens of Plaza de Oriente.

Statues of Royalties are all over the plaza. The original purpose was to place them on top of the palace, but they were to heavy so they were placed on the square instead.

Teatro Real, seen from Plaza de Oriente.
Plaza de Isabel II:

Teatro Real, The Royal Theater, seen from Plaza Isabel II. The neo-classical theater was completed in 1850. It is home to Madrid's opera scene.

We visited this café at Plaza Isabel II. The noise was alarming, feeling like a pub. The Hispanic people like to talk very loud, even at a café. A bit funny.
The Mc Donald's in the back is the best I have been to.

A picturesque scene next to Plaza Isabel II.

Calle Arenal towards Puerta del Sol.

Escalinata towards Plaza Mayor.

Less elegant commie blocks and the chapel Ermita Virgen del Puerto are standing in front of the royal park Campo de Moro.

Jardines de Campo del Moro:

The Royal Palace seen from the avenue of Campo del Moro. The gardens was constructed in the 1800s. Campo del Moro, meaning "the field of the Moors", comes from the fact that the Arabic general Ali Ben Yusuf had his camp here, when fighting the Christians.

I was relaxing in Campo del Moro while my girlfriend flew back to Sweden.





Akacias, magnolisa, cedars, palms and more trees can be found in Campo del Moro.


There is only one way out!

Puerta de San Vicente, one of 4 arch of triumphs I saw in Madrid. Just west of Principe Pio and Plaza de España, next to Campo del Moro.

Principe Pio Railway Station is also a large shopping cener.
Palacio by night:

Palacio Real.

Almudena Cathedral.

More night photos can be found in the night sections of my Madrid page:
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Parque del Oeste and Temple of Debod

Parque del Oeste means West Park in Spanish. And it is not surprising that it is situated in the west part of the city center. It is pretty big, it goes from Plaza de España to the North border of the city near the Moncloa Gate. It is as beautiful as Parque Retiro, but less touristy, and offers views of the city. It is famous for its attraction Temple of Debod that we visited, a temple from 100 B.C. that has been transported from Egypt. The park is also famous for its rose garden, something we missed. It was built in the early 20th century by Cecilio Rodríguez, also the chief gardener for Retiro.



Parque del Oeste seen form Paseo del Pinto Rosales, the road that goes to the East of the park.



Temple of Debod:
Temple de Debod is an ancient Egpytian temple that was donated to Spain by Egypt in 1968. The relocation was necessary because of the thread that the construction of the Aswan Dam made to the ancient monuments. The temple now lies in the southeast entrance to the park and was open to public in 1972. The entrance fee is free. It is the only ancient Egyptian temple that can be seen in Spain, and one of the few in the world.


Ancient history: The temple was built 15km south of Aswan, a city in southern Egypt. In the early 2nd century BC Adikhalamani, the Kushite king of Meroë, started to build a small chapel dedicated to the god Amun. The Ptolemaic dynasty (hellenistic greeks) extended the temple and several Roman emperors completed its decorations. Today large parts of the extensions are lost, and after the removal it wasn't rebuilt in the right order.






Model of how the original looked.

A model of Aswan, were the original temples were.




The southeast part near Plaza de España:

This part is just next to the Temple of Debod and close to our hotel at Plaza de España. It was very sunny this day. This fountain is just next to Temple of Debod.





A theatre group making some filming.

Towards Hotel Melia Princesa.

The hilly street next to Parque del Oeste.
Views from Parque del Oeste:
All these views are from the southeast part, next to Temple of Debod.


Temple of Debod and the skyscrapers of Plaza de España.

The southwest commie block outskirts seen from Parque del Oeste.

Palacio Real, Almudena Cathedral and San Francisco el Grande.

The amusement park of Casa de Campo.

Next I will show some of the north part of the park and Moncloa.
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Old May 4th, 2011, 06:26 PM   #93
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I simply love the way you captured the city and you explain all the places.

One detail: the palace was built when the Borbones where already on the Spanish throne. The Habsburgs where already gone. It´s true the palace was burnt twice until they built this one. Maybe the others were older but this one is precious.

It seems you enjoyed a lot of sunny weather to take pictures, Night.

Let me be sentimental: that light of Madrid...I couln´t live without it. Well I could but would suffer a lot lot lot

The other cities you´re mentioning to visit (Valencia, Castellón, etc) are wonderful too. In fact Spain is a country very interesting to visit because it´s very diverse so you don´t get tired of seeing always the same...

Thanks man again.
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Thanks! Yes, the light is special. Next time I go to Spain, I will not miss Valencia.
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you are wellcome in Valencia

Valencia is very nice, but Castelló is cosidered one of the less beautifull cities in Spain... Nothing specially interesting. In Castellón province there are two very nice villages Morella and Peñiscola, but there are far from Valencia.
About Alicante... it's OK but also it isn't specially beautifull even could have interesting things, very near Alicante, is Elche with a unique palm wood.
About Benidorm...don´t wait to see any historical monument here, nice beach, nice "paseo maritimo" (promenade¿?), too much party, and high buildings(not specially beautifull). If you want to go in summer ok, in other months of the year... ummmmm
Betwen Madrid and Valencia there are a nice city, Cuenca. It hasn´t as much things has Toledo but it is very picturesque and cute. For me, is specially magic is at night, admire the city from the tallest part of the city, when all the natural wall rock are illuminated. If you have any doubt about your travel or want something ask and we will help you.

Oh! I forget it, Great thread, the best about Madrid. thank you so much. I hope a thread nice as this about Valencia. sorry for my english
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Thanks for the last pictures again, Noghtsky.

Did you see the Terminal 4 of Barajas airport? What about the tube of Madrid?

I think that the Egyptian temple was a present of Nasser to Franco in the 50,s (a present from dictator to dictator, that is).

You´re lucky about the weather no doubt.

In winter there can be days like that, cold but sunny, but of course there can be also rainy days...
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truly incredible colors! one fine looking city
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First I must say thanks to all! Your comments made it worth all the hours of work behind the pictures and info, that I primarily made for my website World Travel Images.

@vlc1988: The reason I wanted to visit Alicante is mostly because it is close to Valencia, and because it looks good on pictures I have seen. The same reason with Benidorm, but I also wanted to see it for the tall builidings, even if many of them are ugly the skyline itself with the mountain backdrop is very special for Europe I think. And I think one half day would be enough in Benidorm, just a short visit. Cities with tall buildings are always nice to visit, with or without historical landmarks. But Madrid has both.

@madridhere: If you look at the beginning of the post, page 1, it starts with Terminal 4 in Barajas. It's were we landed.
It was not only sunny, it was as "warm" (for being in february) as 14-20 degrees.


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Nightsky, I'm going to Madrid in 1 mounth for the very 1st time, and I must admit that your thread helps me a lot to have an idea about the must-see spots of the city. The more I see your pics, the more I want to be there! Thanks to share!
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