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Old April 5th, 2011, 12:23 AM   #1
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Post Vietnam Daily News in English only!

Ok I open this thread intended for English speaking members have a chance to discuss about Vietnam forum ,anything from skyscrapers to Vietnam daily news.Please feel free to drop in anytime without any mud throwing or trash talking ok.
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Old April 5th, 2011, 12:25 AM   #2
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I will move post from vttnguyen here.

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HANOI, Vietnam — A dissident lawyer and son of a Vietnamese Communist revolutionary leader was sentenced to seven years in prison and another three years house arrest Monday for calling for an end to Vietnam's government and its one-party system.

Cu Huy Ha Vu was sentenced after a dramatic one-day trial in Hanoi that saw one of his defense attorneys ejected by the judge and his other three lawyers walk out in protest. Vu was left alone to defend himself and had several heated exchanges with the judge.

The court convicted him of conducting propaganda against the state for calling for a multiparty government system, demanding the abolishment of the Communist Party's leadership, defaming the state and distorting Vietnam's struggle for independence by calling the country's war against the United States a civil war.

Vietnam does not tolerate any challenge to its one-party rule.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said the United States was "deeply concerned" about the conviction and sentencing of Vu, which "raises questions about Vietnam's commitment to rule of law and reform."

The 53-year-old Vu is the son of Cu Huy Can, a famous Vietnamese poet and revolutionary leader in the government formed by late President Ho Chi Minh when he declared independence from France in 1945.

"I did not commit the crime of spreading propaganda against the state," Vu told the court. "This criminal case was invented against me. This case is completely illegal."

Judge Nguyen Huu Chinh disagreed.

"Born and raised into a revolutionary family, he did not sustain that tradition but instead committed erroneous acts," he said.

His wife, lawyer Nguyen Thi Duong Ha, said she believed her husband was innocent.

"When you did not commit a crime, one cannot say your sentence was harsh or not," she said. "I think the sentencing was illegal."

Vu was arrested in November after he attempted to file a lawsuit against Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung in 2009 after a controversial Chinese-built bauxite mining project was approved in the Central Highlands. He argued the project violated environmental protection, national security and cultural heritage laws.

Court officials dropped the suit, saying they didn't have the authority to put the country's leader on trial.

Vu attempted to sue the prime minister again a year later for prohibiting class-action lawsuits from being filed, saying it violated a constitutional guarantee of the right to "gather, form groups and protest in conformity with the law."

Security was tight around the courthouse Monday, with police stopping traffic and pushing onlookers away. Limited access was given to international media organizations, but no cameras or recorders were allowed inside. Reporters from foreign media outlets were kept in an area outside the main courtroom and watched the proceedings on closed-circuit television.

Vu's lawyers walked out of the courthouse after the judge refused to read or distribute 10 news interviews Vu was accused of conducting with foreign media, including Voice of America and Radio Free Asia. The interviews were used as key evidence against him.

State Department spokesman Toner said the U.S. was troubled by the "apparent lack of due process" in Vu's trial and the continued detention of several individuals who were peacefully seeking to observe the proceedings.

New-York based Human Rights Watch called last week for Vu's release, calling him "one of the most prominent defenders of cultural, environmental and human rights in Vietnam."

"Vietnam should amend or repeal its broad national security laws instead of using them to silence peaceful government critics," Phil Robertson, the group's deputy Asia director, said in a statement. "How can Vietnam become a country governed by the rule of law if the government continues to punish legal advocates?"

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...ssident.Trial/
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Old April 5th, 2011, 01:03 AM   #3
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this is a good thread for me to learn more english. We can discuss about anything relate to Vietnam , but please dont discuss about politics
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Old April 5th, 2011, 03:18 AM   #4
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this is a good thread for me to learn more english. We can discuss about anything relate to Vietnam , but please dont discuss about politics
what's wrong with politics ? politics = crime ? Vanboy said " anything from skycrapercity to vietnam daily news "

7 years for Ha Vu. what a joke !
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Old April 5th, 2011, 03:33 AM   #5
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Judge Nguyen Huu Chinh disagreed.

"Born and raised into a revolutionary family, he did not sustain that tradition but instead committed erroneous acts," he said.
I found this sentence very funny to the point.So people have to fit into the frame whatever their parents already set it up?
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Old April 5th, 2011, 03:33 AM   #6
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US wants to boost ties with Vietnam

Updated : Mon, April 4, 2011,8:38 AM (GMT+0700)

The Obama administration has pledged to expand its relations with Vietnam as well as other emerging Asian Pacific nations, affirmed a US Assistant Secretary of State.

US Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Kurt Campbell presented the Obama administration’s strategy in the Asia-Pacific at the March 31 hearings of the Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific of the US House of Representatives’ Committee on Foreign Affairs.

Vietnam is one of the US ’s increasingly important partners, along with Indonesia , Malaysia, Mongolia, New Zealand , Singapore and India , said Campbell .

Vietnam is one of eight partners involving in the ongoing negotiations of Trans Pacific Partnership with the US, he affirmed, stressing that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung agreed to further develop bilateral ties into a strategic partnership at a meeting in Hanoi last year.

He said that the Obama administration also pledged to increase involved in the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF), the ASEAN Defence Ministers’ Meeting – Plus (ADMM+), the East Asia Summit (EAS) and the Pacific Islands Forum (PIF).

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Old April 5th, 2011, 03:40 AM   #7
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what's wrong with politics ? politics = crime ? Vanboy said " anything from skycrapercity to vietnam daily news "

7 years for Ha Vu. what a joke !
I personally do not discuss about politics often enough due to be a Mod,but seems quite a large amount of members here so afraid of open discussion though,without verbally abusive.
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Old April 5th, 2011, 05:25 AM   #8
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I personally do not discuss about politics often enough due to be a Mod,but seems quite a large amount of members here so afraid of open discussion though,without verbally abusive.
I agree with Vanboy. We can agree or disagree on sudden issue but verbally abusive shouldn't be one them. Unfortunately, many people (myself included) waste tons of energy complaining and lashing out to someone for not agreeing with us, when that same level of activity can be used more positively.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 02:39 AM   #9
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Vietnam dissident's attorneys file complaint that gangster government broke the law yesterday!


The defense team of a prominent Vietnamese dissident lawyer sentenced this week to prison has filed a complaint alleging the judge in his trial broke the law by obstructing their rights to hear all the evidence.

Cu Huy Ha Vu, 53, the well-known son of a Vietnamese Communist revolutionary leader, was sentenced to seven years in prison and three years under house arrest at the one-day trial Monday on charges of conducting propaganda against the state.

One of Vu's four defense attorneys was ejected from the courtroom for repeatedly asking the judge to read in full or provide copies of 10 interviews Vu gave to foreign media, which were used as key evidence against him.

The three other attorneys walked out in protest, leaving Vu to defend himself.

In the complaint, posted at a popular dissident website and verified Tuesday by lawyer Tran Dinh Trien, the defense team accused the judge of violating their rights as attorneys and the rights of their client by refusing to provide the full evidence.

"There has been a serious violation of laws during the investigation, prosecution and at the court," said Trien, one of the three lawyers who left the court in protest. "According to the law, the evidence must be announced at the trial, but they did not. The trial, which was conducted in a hasty and imposing manner, cannot be in accordance with the law."

Vu was convicted of calling for an end to the one-party rule, defaming the state, demanding the abolishment of the Communist Party's leadership and calling the war against the United States a civil war.

He is the son of Cu Huy Can, a famous Vietnamese poet and revolutionary leader in the government formed by late President Ho Chi Minh when he declared independence from France in 1945.

Vu, who has a law doctorate from a French university but is not licensed to practice in Vietnam, has tried twice to sue Vietnam's prime minister, once over a controversial Chinese-built bauxite mining project and another time after the premier blocked class-action lawsuits from being filed. Both cases were thrown out of court.

Vu's prosecution was closely watched and under tight security. The U.S. government and New York-based Human Rights Watch criticized the conviction and called for Vu's release.

Vietnam does not tolerate any threat to its one-party rule. Hanoi insists it has no political prisoners and maintains only lawbreakers are punished.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...ssident.Trial/
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Old April 6th, 2011, 08:40 AM   #10
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Vietnamese origin who have demonstrated leadership in the German party

German Health Minister of Vietnamese origin Philipp Roesler more likely to become the new leader of the Liberal Democratic Party (FDP).



According to AFP, after successive failures of the FDP in the regional elections in recent times, Mr. Roesler is the brightest candidates to replace former President Guido Westerwelle has resigned.

The rising star of German politics is key a figure close to Prime Minister Angela Merkel. The 38-year-old politician has been assessed to be a key figure in the ruling coalition.. If He become the new chairman of the FDP, he will be the youngest leader in the history of this party.

As 9 months old when Mr. Roesler was adopted by German couple from an orphanage in Vietnam . The couple divorced when Roesler at age 4, his father continued to raised Roesler as a single father.

Roesler quickly demonstrate the qualities of a politician since joined the FDP in 1992. In 2009, he became the youngest minister in the German history and was the first Asian to served on the interior of country.
Philipp Roesler, at age 36, who was born in Vietnam and becomes Germany's first Asian-born cabinet member as health minister in 2009.
Philipp Roesler has returned to visit his homeland in 2006.
Source http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=102555
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Good job, i like this thread.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 07:53 PM   #12
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Xmod, your opinion is your opinion and you have a right to… I’m cool with that. About the news articles, I came across those on the www.comcast.net/articles/news-world-asia and wanted to pass it along. If you don't like them then don't read them and if you’re offended by them then you must be one of the government officials or commies and I’m glad. Now the whole world knows what you did to that poor man.
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I think, Philipp Roesler can be a good commander in chief for Vietnam We can dream, can't we?
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Old April 7th, 2011, 12:37 AM   #14
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It is good to hear Vietnamese people are successful in the other countries. Proud to be Vietnamese.
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Cool! Especially in Germany!
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Vietnam's banh mi on the rise in Bay Area, beyond
Janny Hu, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, April 3, 2011


Let's face it. We're a sandwich society. From hoagies to cheesesteaks to BLTs, there's something about bread as a bookend for meat and veggies that we just can't resist.

Take the rise of banh mi in modern America. The tangy Vietnamese sandwiches are as ingrained in Orange County as they are in po' boy-rich New Orleans. Here in the Bay Area, you'll find banh mi in nearly every town, while San Jose is home to Lee's Sandwiches and also launched Chicago's popular Ba Le franchise.

Banh mi lovers can flock from sandwich shops to food trucks to full-service restaurants to get their fix. And why not? At $3 apiece, give or take a dollar, banh mi is one of the cheapest meals around.

"It's a staple," says Lele Huong, whose family opened Cam Huong in Oakland in 1986. "Everybody likes it, and you can eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner - just like you can eat pho at 5 in the morning or late at night."

A bite of Ba Le Banh Mi's fried egg sandwich, and I'm in comfort food paradise, a trail of crumbs marking the way. What tickles me more, though, is the history of the sandwich.

Sometimes called a Vietnamese sandwich or a Saigon sub, the lineage is largely French. The French introduced the baguette and delicacies like pate and cornichons during colonial times, and, as the years went by, their sandwich was slowly hybridized by the Vietnamese.

Wheat flour, which had to be imported, was cut with rice flour, which gave rolls their signature airiness. Cornichons became pickled carrots and daikon. Pricey goose and duck livers were replaced by pork and chicken livers.

Add in staple Vietnamese herbs and spices, and the modern banh mi was born.

Making banh mi

You start with a toasted baguette, perhaps hollowed out to make room for the filling. Slather mayo on one side, pate on the other. Add some pickled daikon and carrot, cucumber, cilantro, jalapeno, and your choice of protein. Top it off with a sprinkle of Maggi seasoning or soy sauce.

It's a sandwich you can easily slap together at home (see recipes), though it's best to leave the bread to the pros. It's what most of the Bay Area's sandwich shops do, Cam Huong and Thanh Huong being among the exceptions.

Saigon Sandwiches, for example, uses bread from Bakers of Paris in Brisbane. Like the French, they use only wheat flour for their rolls. That trademark banh mi crust - one bite, and it shatters into a thousand pieces - comes from the rolls being baked in rack ovens with hot air pulsed in, creating a thin crust all-around.

'Easy to eat'

"What they want is a light crust that makes a sandwich easy to eat and doesn't compete with the inside - because the inside is so good," says Bakers of Paris owner Lionel Robbe-Jedeau.

Indeed, banh mi thit nguoi is considered the classic, a pork-heavy combination of cold cuts and pate. Saigon has an outstanding meatball sandwich; Little Vietnam Cafe in San Francisco excels with its five-spice chicken; and Cam Huong offers a unique savory grilled beef with onions.

Nowadays, it's not unusual to find banh mi with salmon and avocado. But traditionally, Vietnamese cold cuts are at the very heart of banh mi.

Worth a read - and a test-drive - is Andrea Nguyen's "Into the Vietnamese Kitchen," which demystifies charcuterie like head cheese and pate. Not only is her Chicken Liver Pate decadent, but it's wholly do-able.

Nguyen, who grew up in Orange County and lives in the Bay Area, remembers her parents buying banh mi by the dozen. At $1 a piece back in the day, they didn't break the bank. Nor were they meant to hold you over for very long.

"You walk away with crumbs raining down, and you're as happy as a clam," Nguyen recalls with a laugh. "And an hour and a half later, you're hungry again."

My own banh mi passage began years ago in coastal Vietnam. A friend and I were backpacking from the south to the north, and bought banh mi at every street stall we encountered.

We never knew what we'd get in our baguettes. Once, there was just a smear of pate to go with the tangy vegetables. Another time, a fried egg was added. Sometimes, we got nothing - the carts were nowhere to be found.

Those banh mi-free days always seemed a little off. Thankfully, they never lasted very long. A new town always brought a new round of beguiling baguettes.

-- See H8 for recipes and shops

Banh mi favorites

Here are some of our favorite Bay Area banh mi shops. Please add your favorites to this list on sfgate.com/food.

Ba Le Banh Mi, 1909 International Blvd. (at 15th Avenue), Oakland, (510) 261-9800.

Cam Huong, 702 International Blvd. (near Seventh Avenue), Oakland, (510) 444-2500. Also 920 Webster St. (at 11th Street), Oakland, (510) 444-8800.

Huong Lan Sandwich, 1655 Tully Road (near South King Road), San Jose, (408) 258-8868.

Little Vietnam Cafe, 309 Sixth Ave. (near Clement Street), San Francisco, (415) 876-0283.

Saigon Sandwich, 560 Larkin St. (near Eddy Street), San Francisco, (415) 474-5698.

Thanh Huong, 2050 N. Capitol Ave. (near Northwood Drive), San Jose, (408) 297-0595. Also 2593 Senter Road (near Feldspar), San Jose, (408) 297-0595.
- Janny Hu

E-mail Janny Hu at jhu@sfchronicle.com.
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Banh Mi thit nguoi? What!?
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It is good to hear Vietnamese people are successful in the other countries. Proud to be Vietnamese.

Some people of Viet descent are successful in foreign countries is because most of these countries are civilized and have basic fundamental freedom that exist in the real world while Commie Vietnam is just another 3rd world toilet where the ruling party rule through brute force without regard to law or any other aspects of civilization. Brute Viet Cong have not yet evolved into human form therefore most of Vietnam is relegated to 3rd world poverty and backwardness much like the most backward countries of Africa. All brutal dictatorships behave the same way regardless if they are in Asia or Africa. It is their mentality, it is their value system and it is their inability to learn or adapt to the changing world.

Only a free people who are living in an environment that protects freedom will the individuals are allow to prosper without interference from the state can the individuals achieve great things.

Yeah, Vietnam can exist under a dictatorship but she can never be more than a 3rd rate power because her people are not free and are not able to choose their own rulers and the people give direct consent to those rulers. Poor Vietnam will always be poor because of poor leadership.
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