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Old August 13th, 2012, 10:47 PM   #401
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Again, pictures like this give a real impression of the size of the project. I'm really pleased to see how quickly it is advancing given that it is only intended to open in 2017.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 10:49 PM   #402
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Wow, that's an amazing amount of work! Thank you for sharing the photos, things are progressing nicely! Roll on 2017 for the completion of this monster project!
Indeed and you are welcome. It is also exciting to have an opportunity to follow the work both in and underground.
Like many others, I can't wait to see it all function in 2017..

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Old August 14th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #403
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Citybanan. Odenplan.

Some more pictures. Odenplan area this time:

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These pictures represent the work done in June this year. Also, there are some pictures of the public presentation of the project that was organized in the begining of summer:

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Such public presentations are a periodic event during which everyone interested in the project can see how the development is going on.
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Old September 1st, 2012, 03:08 PM   #404
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Tvärbanan in Sundbyberg 2012 08 25

I managed to see the Tvärbanan being tested, though I had an appointment and couldn't stop to ride it to Solna. Here are photos of it at Sundbyberg. Just think, this sight will be commonplace soon!

Sundbyberg is a suburban area in Stockholm being connected to the Tvärbanan which is a circular light rail line that will connect all the lines of the Tunnelbana in the suburbs to avoid travelling to the centre.





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French Canadian journalists' take on Stockholm's transit:
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My french is almost non-existant, what are they saying about Stockholm? I heard mentions of the socialdemocrats?
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That was a local journalist there who was mentioning social democrats. Supposedly, she follows the civic politics re. the tug of war between the sitting govt, who prefer trams over metros, and the official opposition, who rather metros. The argument boils down to tramways revitalising thoroughfares, costing ¼ less to build than metros do - although its costs to date have been ⅔ over budget - and discouraging would-be motorists taking to the road, versus metros moving way more people while trams are further clogging already-congested streets. I can't tell which sort of party is in power, yet some (further?) major decision, course of action is to be chosen, concluded this year there. Other than that, the Canadien reporter claimed Stockholm to be Europe's greenest city which has succeeded at greatly reducing its exhaust emissions all while its population count keeps growing at quite the robust rate. He concluded flatly that Stockholm's public transport champions Montreal's. The whole report was introduced by the anchorman within the context of Stockholm having executed its prioritisation plans on public transport whereas Montreal has been waiting for ten years (now 11, the report itself was broadcast no later than last year).

I must say that those look like super-trams there, so long, more like interurbans winding through streets, which altogether makes me think that their purpose must be to make up for passed-over/shirked metro service...
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We currently have three types of trams (not counting heritage ones). One wasn't shown at all and is 60 years old and only runs on a suburban line. One is temporary til we get new ones starting next year (this'd be the one running in the urban core) and the third one is more LRT than tram. I think you're refering to the last one, in which case I kinda agree. Those look like something in-between a tram and an old-school non-urban EMU.

The party/coalition in power in the City, in the County and at the national level is the right-wing alliance (made up of four parties). They're far more pro-tram and less pro-subway than the left-wing parties who think subways are great and trams are just rubbish. Tho the left wingers DO want far more LRT lines connecting suburbs with eachother and the right-wingers have recently made political plays about extending the Blue line subway to the east. IMO they both lack balance and lack any real long-term plan.

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the right-wingers have recently made political plays about extending the Blue line subway to the east.
It's all politics. Naturally, right-wingers want to extend lines to the east because that's on the right of the map. Left-wingers, on the other hand, would rather extend lines to the west (left on the map). I say extend the lines in both directions and then everyone can be happy regardless of political persuasion.
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It's all politics. Naturally, right-wingers want to extend lines to the east because that's on the right of the map. Left-wingers, on the other hand, would rather extend lines to the west (left on the map). I say extend the lines in both directions and then everyone can be happy regardless of political persuasion.
Sorry, is that sarcasm?
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Honestly, left and right are political positions hailing from the past ... it's all about elitism, is the way I've been seeing things...
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Sorry, is that sarcasm?
It was sarcasm, and I hope that your response to my sarcasm was sarcasm as well. If not, then there's reason to worry.
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It was sarcasm, and I hope that your response to my sarcasm was sarcasm as well. If not, then there's reason to worry.
Well, believe it or not, the East of Stockholm barely has any metro lines compared to the west as most of Stockholm lies to the west rather than the east and given that the social democrats were in power far longer than the moderates, one could actually jokingly make such a statement. So actually, it wouldn't be a reason to worry, more a "what the hell?" kind of moment.
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Updates on Stockholm Public transport

New Pendeltågstrafik between Uppsala (via the airport) and Älvsjö (International Trade Centre)

Starting on the 9th of December, there will be a new line running between Uppsala (via Arlanda Airport) and Älvsjö in the south of Stockholm every 30 minutes off-peak. This line will connect the city of Uppsala better to Stockholm and avoid having to change trains as many currently have to. It will also provide a direct rail link using the public transport network of Stockholm to the airport rather than having to rely upon the national railways or a bus transfer at a Pendeltåg station in the north of Stockholm.

This will also result in there being 6 trains per hour on the stretch between Älvsjö and Upplands Väsby up from 4 trains per hour today off-peak. At peak times, trains from Uppsala will go all the way to Tumba in the south of Stockholm increasing frequency for the whole of the south of Stockholm.

12 new trains have been ordered to fulfil this service. They are the same model as the successful X60 trains currently in operation in Stockholm on the Pendeltåg.


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Upgrades to the Karsta stretch of the Roslagsbanan complete

The Roslagsbanan is undergoing a multi-million kroner redevelopment and overhaul to allow more frequent trains. The Vallentuna-Karsta stretch has finished double tracking and is now back in service. Other stretches of the Roslagsbanan are still under development.


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An excellent update! Thank you, Svartmetall.
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This line will connect the city of Uppsala better to Stockholm and avoid having to change trains as many currently have to.
This new line stops at Stockholm C, right?
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What are the current plans for Karsta-Rimbo?
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This new line stops at Stockholm C, right?
Yes. The line passes down from Uppsala all the way to Älvsjö stopping all stations en route.

The time from Uppsala to Stockholm C is 55 minutes compared with ~40 minutes for SJ trains with few stops (but obviously not integrated into local transport pricing).

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What are the current plans for Karsta-Rimbo?
None at present - though the decision has been made to extend the line there it hasn't been funded as far as I can recall. There are express buses from Stockholm to Rimbo at the moment which take less than 1 hour that run every hour even on Sundays and run through the night on Friday and Saturday nights so they get a pretty good service despite how isolated they are. There are also buses to Norrtälje and Uppsala hourly as well so for a small place of much less than 5000 people it gets a reasonable service.

It currently takes 52 minutes for the Roslagsbanan to reach Karsta so actually, if Rimbo moved towards the Roslagsbanan rather than the bus, the journey would probably take them longer as the bus goes down the motorway and has few stops. Plus, the frequency wouldn't increase given that Karsta gets only an hourly service (as it really is in the middle of nowhere with barely anyone living there) compared to a service of 15 minutes on nearly all of the rest of the line as there is a significant population centre at Vallentuna.

For the Roslagsbanan, they are currently having a massive upgrade - the trackwork will allow 10 minute service schedules on each branch resulting in very metro-like headways on shared sections. They're also renovating all the rolling stock and purchasing new stock with 22 trains on order. So who knows - perhaps once the upgrades are completed, then expansion can occur. They're still talking about its extension to Arlanda as well.

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A few relevant population-figures for localities ("tätort"):

Rimbo: 4 629
Kårsta: 457
Vallentuna: 29 519
Norrtälje: 17 275

With double tracks, no level crossings and decent rolling stock extending the line to Norrtälje by way of Rimbo would probably make sense. IMO they ought to also make it dual-gauge so as to facilitate a future switch to standard gauge - especially for the proposed Arlanda branch (which could go on to Märsta-Sigtuna-Bålsta and have connections to the mainline rails).



How tiny Kårsta is surprised me. Damn! a place with under 500 people in it has it's own rail transit (more HRT then LRT even).
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Norrtälje, whilst it might not have rail transport, has excellent bus transport in the form of the double deckers that traverse the route every few minutes at peak, every 15 minutes off-peak and on Saturdays and Sundays. I found the route comfortable and fast.

I think if the Roslagsbanan was extended to Norrtälje via Rimbo you'd not get many Stockholm commuters taking it, more cross-commuting between the two and perhaps some to Vallentuna or Täby, but few Stockholm commuters as it would be a lot slower than the bus. So yes, I agree it should be done eventually, but it isn't high priority due to the really good transport options present at the moment.
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