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Old May 25th, 2013, 12:28 AM   #501
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What is the ridership of Stockholm commuter railway network?
Around 85 million a year for the Pendeltåg.
Around 16 million a year for the Roslagsbanan.

The buses and tunnelbana carry far more as you know (I can dig up figures for you if you like for all light rail lines and buses) - bus line number 4 alone carries around 20,000,000 a year!
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Old May 25th, 2013, 12:40 AM   #502
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Thank you, I am also interested by bus and lightrail figures.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 12:57 AM   #503
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I read there was some damage to the system due to civil unrest. It seems the Swedes are a bit shy about it as I can't find any photos online.
Like Svartmetall said, there has not been any damage to the subway system due to the unrest (which is a limited number of people - all the affected 'hoods have up to over a hundred adult average citizens patrolling their area tonight).
There HAS been stones thrown at buses and iirc a shot fired at one (not sure about that) so the bus lines through those places have been shut down at night now afaik. Major headache for all the people working late/nights/early who live there and since these are poorer hoods there are quite a few.
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I hope the people whose cars were burned make the GREEN choice and take transit instead.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 01:49 PM   #505
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About the new trains. I see that a 4 car double set C30 is almost the same length as a 3 car triple set C20, so I guess that's the combination they will be run at?
I thought there where problems with that at curved stations and other infrastructure due to longer cars.

Longitudinal seats is a good idea. I wondered why Oslo didn't choose more seat of the type. But I guess it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of thing.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 02:22 PM   #506
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Thank you, I am also interested by bus and lightrail figures.
Light Rail:
Saltsjöbanan: Approximately 7 million a year
Lidingöbanan: Approximately 4 million a year
Tvärbanan: Approximately 20.8 million a year
Nockebybanan: Approximately 3.4 million a year
Spårväg City: Approximately 6.3 million a year


All bus lines: Approximately 380 million a year.

Tunnelbana: Somewhere around the 380 million a year mark according to the SL report.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #507
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Thank you.
Is it because it is more central that the Tvärbanan is much busier than all the other lines?
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I'd say 5-10% because it is more central and 90-95% because it is a partial circle line just outside the urban core connecting 3 out of 5 subway lines heading out of the urban core as well as the commuter rail on one side of the city. All the other LRT connect to the subway at their city-end and then go out into the suburbs without connecting to anything but a few bus lines.

I'm expecting a marked increase in Tvärbanan's numbers in 2015 with the partial opening later this year and full opening next year (after a few months complete shutdown of the entire line!) of the extension connecting (slightly further out) to the Blue subway line and the northern commuter rail branches. A couple of years after that it'll extend in the other direction to connect with Saltsjöbanan. It'll then connect at 8 places to other rail lines (all of those being radial lanes). It's a good thing it's getting a new signaling system so it'll be able to handle higher frequencies.

btw the "...-banan" is the same word as the German "[die] ...-bahn"
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Longitudinal seats is a good idea. I wondered why Oslo didn't choose more seat of the type. But I guess it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of thing.
Firstly, Oslo metro cars are very wide, 40 cm wider than Stockholm, so you'd lose more seats. Second, Oslo metro is really not that crowded. It wouldn't make sense to do it.
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It wouldn't make sense to make it 100% longitudinal, but some more seats of the type I think would make some sense since there are complaints about overcrowding, even here in Oslo. And that they are wider is an argument of doing it in itself. You could also argue that stations stops would be quicker since people tend to easier walk inside a car when it spacious than not.
Anyways, not a big problem for me, just something I think could be useful.
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. And that they are wider is an argument of doing it in itself.
This argument is not self-evident to me, so you would have to expand on that. I think it's quite the opposite, since 2x3 seating has more seats than 2x2 and lose more seat capacity with longitudinal seating.
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Perhaps it would be a good idea to discuss widening of Oslo metro carriages in the Oslo public transport thread here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=642824&page=6

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Old May 30th, 2013, 07:48 AM   #513
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Citybanan just uploaded an English version of their vid explaining the immersed tunnel under Söderström.

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Old June 1st, 2013, 08:46 PM   #514
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Allow me to show some fresh videos...

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Amazing videos! Thank you, Leif. Also, nice to see a video with the red line which is the one I am using to get downtown.
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Thank you. So here are some more fresh videos, now from Saltsjöbanan...

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Old June 11th, 2013, 07:23 PM   #517
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I guess this is already mentioned on this forum, anyway
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Next Friday, 21st of June, will be the last day when the old trams are running on Lidingöbanan in the north-east of Stockholm. After service in approx 65 years, or so, they will be transported to Cuba and planned to be in traffic on the Hershey-line...
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The Lidingöbane-system will be closed for approx 18 months, and a big reconstruction for the tracks are planned as well as new cars. And maybe a new bridge...
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Old June 11th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #518
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Beautiful pictures.

And a pity. I always liked trams.
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Very glad that the Lidingöbanan will be upgraded. It feels a little outdated at the moment.
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^this renovation will be great when it is done. Horrible for the people affected by it during the construcion period since it'll be so long, but afterwards the tracks and signalling will be better and new trams! The period up til now will be called "when the old trams ran" by many locals is my prediction.

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A quick pic I took a few days ago from the #1 bus. Of three other #1 buses, all four within a hundred meters :\ We need higher priority for these trunk lines asap and more dedicated lanes. Preferably as tramlines.

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