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Old November 10th, 2017, 09:01 AM   #1221
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They should just split the lines by color. There will effectively be 6 lines after the extensions are finished. Green-yellow, blue-orange, red-purple.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 11:28 AM   #1222
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That the lines each have their own color is something that was introduced in the 1980s iirc. So it's not like it's been this way forever. Changing it to be one color per branch pair (i.e. what Arnorian proposed) would make some sense. Would make the map of the entire rail system a mess tho.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #1223
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If a good designer does it it doesn't have to be a mess. Here is that color scheme on the map of the present network by Jug Cerović:

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Old November 14th, 2017, 08:30 PM   #1224
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Commuter trains are not going into the Citybanan.

https://sl.se/sv/info/nyheter/pendeltagen-14-november/
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Old November 14th, 2017, 08:37 PM   #1225
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Stockholm's Citybanan commuter line shut down 'until further notice'

Stockholm's new Citybanan commuter train line was closed on Tuesday afternoon, with no indication of when the trains would be able to start running again[...]






'Brilliant'...

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Old November 14th, 2017, 08:41 PM   #1226
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Wait... How many did it cost? Absurd
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Old November 14th, 2017, 08:48 PM   #1227
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Det kostar 16,8 miljarder kronor att bygga Citybanan. Investeringen finansieras av staten genom Trafikverket, Stockholms stad, Stockholms läns landsting samt Mälardals- och Östgötaregionerna (prisnivå 2007-01). Vi håller budgeten (juni 2017).
= 16.8 billion SEK, which is approximately 160- 170 million Euros.

Source: "Frågor och svar om Citybanan"
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Old November 14th, 2017, 08:52 PM   #1228
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I am the only one, who does not understand it at all?
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I am the only one, who does not understand it at all?
The problem?

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"On the commuter trains, we have almost 300,000 passengers per day, so it will affect many of them, and the commuter trains must run alongside regional train traffic. So it will be messy on this stretch," said Hoffmann.
Stockholm's transport commissioner, Kristoffer Tamson, argued that the Transport Administration should be better able to anticipate and fix technical problems, and should not be forced to shut down the Citybanan line on short notice for an indefinite period.
"I am really angry, and see it as my task to defend the interests of Stockholmers and commuters when such things happen," he told the TT newswire.
Source: https://www.thelocal.se/20171114/sto...further-notice
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Old November 14th, 2017, 09:37 PM   #1230
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So it's not just Germans, Swedish engineers are incompetent too...
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Old November 14th, 2017, 09:40 PM   #1231
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The problem?
The reason why it was suddenly closed. Or was it not?
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Old November 14th, 2017, 11:02 PM   #1232
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SL seem to say it'll be running tomorrow at 4:00 if I am correct? What a mess. Signalling failure.
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Seems it is up and running since this morning. So whatever they thought would fix it did in fact fix it.

My daughter wanted to take the Pendel home from preschool yesterday, so we got to go take a train on the "wrong" platform at Stockholm Södra and go non-stop to Älvsjö But then we had to wait 10 minutes for the bus home
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Old November 15th, 2017, 01:42 PM   #1234
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This was according to contingency plans though, a half-year trial period to hopefully get any kinks out of the system, and the Centralen-Karlberg regional train segment as a fallback in case of trouble on the City line segment. That would apply even when Karlberg is shut down. Trains going Centralen-Solna/Sundbyberg with no intermediate stop wouldn't be any disaster. It's not as if it is hard to get from Odenplan to Stockholm C.

That said there are some S-bana options inside Stockholm, building train line(s) with shorter distance between stops than the Pendeltåg norm.
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Old November 30th, 2017, 02:46 PM   #1236
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Re-uploads of videos that the Citybanan account had uploaded before. I guess that account is going away and thus the "parent account" Trafikverket is making sure the vids don't get removed?

Regarding the extension of the #7 tram towards T-centralen, I found this quote on the forum of the Swedish Tramway society.
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Byggstart för spårarbeten är i januari och det skall officiellt vara klart den 13 december.
Track work to start in januari and all done by the 13th of December next year.
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Old December 1st, 2017, 12:10 PM   #1237
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Seems it is up and running since this morning. So whatever they thought would fix it did in fact fix it.
The city railline (Citybana), which was opened in July, stopped completely Tuesday Nov 14th, between 3PM and midnight. The Swedish Transport Administration, said that the signals that incorrectly indicated a stop, were eliminated.

All electronic and digitized operations are sensitive especially if they are exposed to bad weather, cold or heat. Even when the system is brand new like in this case.

The stop lasted for half a day - yet the railway was reopened faster than expected

- It's always difficult to interpret a faulty signal. When checking it up, it's not telling exactly what's wrong or where the error is. It took time before finding the position of the error.

During the time the error was analyzed, the security level was as high as it always should be.

However, there are no guarantees that the scenario with signal errors will not be repeated.

Things can always happen because it's a track layout facility with electrical and digital drives in the open air - with moisture, snow, cold or heat. It's about having a survey on what could happen and detect failures as soon as possible.
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This week has been a disaster for the pendeltåg. They've had problems since Saturday with the lines affected north of Solna and now yesterday there was a derailment.

https://www.thelocal.se/20171130/com...s-in-stockholm
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Even when the system is brand new like in this case.
I think it's a wrong interpretation. Brand new systems are usually MORE sensitive than the ones which are several years old.
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Yeah, brand new trains/rail-lines/plane models/car models/... are prone to incidents. As are really old ones. Same pattern for maintenance costs.
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