Bayshore Development News

[Del Mayberry]

Thought we should have a thread for Bayshore but if you disagree, then just delete it. Also thought it should be for only linear bayshore, not the inner neighborhoods of Hyde Park, Palma Ceia, etc. Every now and then, there is a proposal for a new high rise somewhere along Bayshore so I guess that is what would dominate the discussion in this thread.

[Del Mayberry]

Developer wins round in long-disputed Bayshore Boulevard condo project
By Jack Nicas, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Friday, April 8, 2011
TAMPA — An appeals court ruling Wednesday allows a developer to seek millions in damages and legal fees from the city for unlawfully denying the company's 2004 plan for a Bayshore Boulevard condominium tower.
Tampa City Attorney Chip Fletcher said the city is evaluating its options and may appeal the decision to the Florida Supreme Court.
In 2005, the City Council blocked Citivest Construction Corp.'s proposal to build a 24-story condo tower at Bayshore Boulevard and DeSoto Avenue.
Citivest claimed the denial was unlawful, and a judge agreed months later. The ruling was upheld on appeal.
The City Council relented and approved a revised plan to build a 19-story tower.
The city's Architectural Review Commission also later approved the new plan.
Citivest attorney Scott McLaren said the project is stalled, but the company hopes it will go forward in the future.
After Citivest won in court, the firm sought millions in damages and legal fees from the city.
It lost an earlier round, but on Wednesday, the 2nd District Court of Appeal reversed that decision, clearing the way for Citivest to return to court.
Citivest "would have sold those condos and made a very nice sum on this project, but the city unlawfully denied it," McLaren said. This decision "entitles us to move forward and have our day in court."

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Copyright 2011 St. Petersburg Times

[smiley]

Another classic city of Tampa waste of money

[Jasonhouse]

^We called that one from day one. Amazing just how long it has dragged on, and how much cost and waste has been associated with it. And if I'm not mistaken, none of the council members that voted to go down this path are even in govt anymore.

[Del Mayberry]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

^We called that one from day one. Amazing just how long it has dragged on, and how much cost and waste has been associated with it. And if I'm not mistaken, none of the council members that voted to go down this path are even in govt anymore.

There was never a rendering of this tower I believe. I did some digging through old threads and found nothing.

[Del Mayberry]

Tampa asks court to reconsider ruling on developer's lawsuit
2003, CLIFF McBRIDE/STAFF

The case dates to 2003, when Citivest attorney John Grandoff III made a presentation to the city's Architectural Review Commission, which later rejected the plan.

By CHRISTIAN M. WADE | The Tampa Tribune
Published: April 21, 2011
TAMPA - City officials want a state appeals court to reconsider its decision to allow a multimillion dollar lawsuit filed against the city by a development group to go to trial.
Citivest Construction Corp. and its financial backers, City National Bank of Florida, sued the city for denying a their 2004 plans to build a condominium tower along Bayshore Boulevard.
Today, the city's legal department filed paperwork requesting a rehearing of the case before the 2nd District Court of Appeals, which two weeks ago reversed a lower court's rejection of Citivests's suit ruling that it could go forward.
In a 41-page legal brief filed with the request, Assistant City Attorney Jerry Gewirtz argues, among other things, that the appeals court opinion is in conflict with other similar rulings made by the three-judge panel. If the appeals court is unwilling to rehear the case, Gewirtz requests that the case be referred to the Florida Supreme Court.
The battle over the condo tower dates back to 2003, when Citivest submitted plans for a 24-story housing project on the corner of Bayshore and DeSoto Avenue.
Because the property falls within the Hyde Park Historic District, the proposed condo project was subject to approval by the city's Architectural Review Commission.
Hyde Park neighbors adamantly opposed the proposal, arguing that the tower would block their view of Bayshore and increase noise and traffic, among other concerns.
In 2004, the architectural commission rejected the plans, arguing that the proposed high-rise was out of character and inappropriate for the district. The developer appealed the decision to the city council, which eventually voted to uphold the commission's position.
Citivest sued the city to overturn the commission and council rulings and won.
In 2007, the council reluctantly approved a scaled-down proposal for a 19-story tower and the commission later signed off those plans. Residents appealed to the council, which in February 2010, narrowly voted to uphold the approval of the revised plans.
As the legal wrangling dragged on, the condo market tanked and the developers decided not to move ahead with the project. Citivest sued the city for damages and legal fees, arguing that it lost millions as a result of the city's actions. Tampa attorney Scott McLaren, who represents Citivest, said his client will seek more than $10 million.
A Hillsborough County Circuit Court judge ruled in the city's favor, but Citivest appealed that decision and the ruling by the 2nd DCA will allow the case to proceed.

cwade@tampatrib.com

[Del Mayberry]

This BS will drag on. I don't think that developers should have more power than the city or even the Nimby's, even though I'm in favor of new condos along Bayshore. Wish we had gotten a new tallest in the last decade of at least 300 feet but it just didn't happen. Wish that the Colonade could be bulldozed and another tower could be built there. Every time I drive by the Colonade it looks like senior discount day.

[Jasonhouse]

Originally Posted by Del Mayberry

There was never a rendering of this tower I believe. I did some digging through old threads and found nothing.

There were renderings. The copies I personally had were lost to a cascade of 3 fried HDDs a couple years back. It was Med rev and kinda clunky looking. the top was overscaled to the tower, even though total height was like 412ft.

[Del Mayberry]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

There were renderings. The copies I personally had were lost to a cascade of 3 fried HDDs a couple years back. It was Med rev and kinda clunky looking. the top was overscaled to the tower, even though total height was like 412ft.

Holy God! 412 feet? That would have been the Sears Tower of Bayshore. God forbid 412 feet in Tampa. Anyway thanks for the reply. I'm just kinda keeping this blog going.

[Del Mayberry]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

There were renderings. The copies I personally had were lost to a cascade of 3 fried HDDs a couple years back. It was Med rev and kinda clunky looking. the top was overscaled to the tower, even though total height was like 412ft.

I googled Med Rev. Now I get it. Basically fancy windows (no balconies?) and something fancy on the roofs. Sarasota has somewhat of a theme going on with their condos (almost a requirement). Is Med Rev what you'd say Sarasota is?

[Jasonhouse]

^Mediterranean Revival is ubiquitous all over FL.

[TampaMike]

Apartments slated for Bayshore at Platt
By GEORGE WILKENS | The Tampa Tribune
Published: August 24, 2011

HYDE PARK --
Construction is scheduled to begin by December on a 370-unit apartment complex on Bayshore Boulevard at Platt Street, one of the larger downtown developments that the Tampa City Council has approved in years.

Crescent Resources plans three Spanish-style buildings on the nearly 6 acres, to include apartments of 600 to 1,420 square feet, studios to three-bedroom units.

Truett Gardner, a land-use attorney with Gardner Brewer Martinez-Monfort, the Tampa firm representing Crescent, said that developer has owned the lots on Hyde Park Place, Platt and Bayshore for a decade. Recently razed 1940s-style apartments on the land had been vacant for five years.

"Crescent had proposed, and we had rezoned for a 26-story condominium tower" on the site, "but obviously the economy did not smile on that development," Gardner said. However, high-end apartments on this prime Bayshore Boulevard site some refer to as the gateway to downtown Tampa "is exactly what the economy is calling for," he said.

"It is directly across the bridge from downtown. You're straddling that little area between downtown and Hyde Park," said Gardner. "It's kind of the best of both worlds there, with all the benefits of living on Bayshore."

Two pedestrian bridges will link the three eight-story buildings. The complex will have "a pretty innovative parking deck in the middle" of the three buildings, designed to obscure much of the garage from view from the outside, Gardner said. Construction is expected to take a year.

The apartments are expected to draw tenants in "the same demographic crowd" as tenants of Post Hyde Park, Post Harbour Place (Harbour Island) and Element, Franklin Street, downtown.

After the city council voted in February to approve rezoning the site, a city Architectural Review Committee recommendation was required, as half of the land lies within the Hyde Park Historic District. On Aug. 1, the ARC approved the project.

Crescent Resources, a Charlotte, N.C.-based real estate development company founded in 1969, has interests throughout the Southeast.

Its local residential developments include The Parkside at One Bayshore, a 17-story condominium complex adjacent to the planned apartments; Circle at Crosstown apartments off South Falkenberg Road; and New Tampa's Grand Hampton development of single-family homes.

Though a formal name for the apartment project has not been adopted, working documents refer to it as Circle at Bayshore.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/community-n...att-ar-252154/

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[TampaGuy]

not sure how I feel about that project... but at least someone is making proposals.

[Jasonhouse]

Urban garbage.

But this is Tampa, so we gotta take what we can get... right? lol

[Jasonhouse]

Btw, if this project will be gobbling up the full six acres (which it certainly sounds like it will), then that means the originally proposed plaza/urban park is gone, right?

It also sounds like this is the typical suburban apartment complex that will be single-use, gated and generally walled off from the neighborhood. As in, don't expect a single person who lives here to do anything but get in their car every time they want to go somewhere. (except perhaps to exercise along Bayshore/riverwalk)

As best I can tell, the only thing that makes this project even remotely "urban" is the density, which isn't all that great at just over 60 units an acre.

[koopalicious]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

Btw, if this project will be gobbling up the full six acres (which it certainly sounds like it will), then that means the originally proposed plaza/urban park is gone, right?

Where was the park proposed?

I don't think this project is on the full six acres. There is nothing proposed for the lot next to 345.

[Del Mayberry]

Of course I wish it could be taller. When I started reading the story before I saw the picture, I thought here comes another 4-story wonder so I was surprised it was eight floors. As always, it could be better, but it looks a lot better than what used to be there. And is says construction could start in December? I doubt that.

[Jahi98]

Well, every building does not have to be mixed-use, but a restaurant space would be a nice addition. At least it is dense and will add residents to support existing businesses.

[Jasonhouse]

The rental market is strong, because tons of people can't qualify for any kind of mortgage now after losing or walking away from their last house. Tons more people have no equity to put down on the next place, so no financing for them either. Hence, the rental market is very strong, and anyone with the means who isn't at least looking into buying rental properties is a moron.

Remember, rental developments are essentially spec projects. If they're getting financing in this environment, they're getting it for damn good reason.

[jonknee]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

The rental market is strong, because tons of people can't qualify for any kind of mortgage now after losing or walking away from their last house. Tons more people have no equity to put down on the next place, so no financing for them either.

That and a lot of people are still waiting until it looks like everything has bottomed out in terms of prices.