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Old June 5th, 2011, 01:51 PM   #41
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Freeways are gifts to the people - simply put it is a FREE WAY. The whole anti-car hippie movement is old and tiring now i think people are starting to get sick of it. Its too late we live in a car dependent world well in the west we do anyway
There is no gift there at all. They are paid for by car drivers and tax payers and they aren't cheap. That said, they of course serve a purpose, but there are certainly situations where they possibly end to serve a sufficiently important purpose in which case a downscaling can be very much justified. I don't see why should be shocked when such a thing is deemed useful.

The country side is car dependent of course, many cities have cars only as one mobilitiy solutions out of several options. In Vienna the share of motorized individual traffic (cars, motor bikes etc) is for example less than 1/3.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 08:52 PM   #42
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Some slackjaw types like to claim that highways are paid only by car taxes, but this is wrong.

First, general taxes have always been a big part of funding for federal dollars as well as local dollars in many areas. Second, those of us who don't spend money on cars are obviously spending the same money somewhere else, and paying taxes.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 01:32 AM   #43
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About the plan to demolish the Claiborne Expressway in New Orleans:

The water table of New Orleans probably won't allow for the construction of an underground tunnel to replace the Claiborne Expressway. Also, a plan recently came up to remove some ramps leading to/from the expressway and keep the expressway itself. The stretch of Interstate 10 to be removed spans between the Pontchartrain Expressway and Elysian Fields Avenue. Once the Claiborne Expressway is removed:

* Interstate 610 would be decommissioned and replaced with a re-routed Interstate 10
* There would be possible modification of the Pontchartrain Expressway/Claiborne Avenue Interchange?
* Removal of the expressway would re-connect neighborhoods such as Treme; tens of city blocks would be open to create new green-spaces and housing.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #44
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When I went to Munich I saw this:



However I don't know if the project finally was done. Any news?
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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:25 AM   #45
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Question: How thick does the layer of soil have to be for you to be able to plant trees? I see a lot of these highway tunnels have trees growing on top. Can you only plant certain types of trees, or will all trees adjust my simply growing their roots in a horizontal direction?
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Old January 8th, 2014, 08:13 PM   #46
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Video of the Munich project:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/X8SFjmwV5Dg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Project page: http://m-einenglischergarten.de/

If anyone can read german, please inform us if this is going to be done!
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Old January 12th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #47
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Another interesting Freeway removal in Barcelona.

This huge road node :



Is going to be renovated, by the moment there are 10 possible designs, soon we will know which one is the choosed:

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Old January 14th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #48
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Vancouver's Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts study




The City is reviewing the Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts land as part of the strategic planning review for the Eastern Core.
The viaducts – two elevated roadways connecting the Eastern Core area to downtown Vancouver – are remnants of a 1960s freeway system that was abandoned after public opposition. The viaducts now act as a barrier, cutting off neighbouhoods from the False Creek waterfront and each other.
Developing a bold, city-shaping concept plan
City planning and engineering staff worked with urban designers, and transportation and structural engineering consultants to reimagine the viaducts land. The concept proposes to:
Remove the viaducts structures
Reconfigure the road network at ground level
Allow for more park land and mixed-use development
Maintain key transportation routes to and from downtown for people and goods

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cts-study.aspx
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Old January 15th, 2014, 09:06 AM   #49
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First time contributing here, and I'm deeply fascinated at how such developments of removing freeways and elevated roadways are becoming more widespread to enhance a city's and regional livability.

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Another interesting Freeway removal in Barcelona.

This huge road node :



Is going to be renovated, by the moment there are 10 possible designs, soon we will know which one is the choosed:
Ah yes. I pretty much like plans 3, 4, and 7, but I believe a best idea would be to balance out those plans, lay out a central plaza on the former freeway roundabout, and create a brand new neighborhood center surrounding the plaza to attract even more businesses and residents to that neighborhood. Perhaps if a Metro line runs through or near the area, I would also develop a Metro station as well to improve connectivity with the rest of Barcleona and develop it into a transit-friendly community. That way, it can boost density even further while encouraging more open spaces and giving opportunities for people to reconnect with the traditional sense of neighborhood development rather than maintaining a divide.

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Vancouver's Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts study




The City is reviewing the Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts land as part of the strategic planning review for the Eastern Core.
The viaducts – two elevated roadways connecting the Eastern Core area to downtown Vancouver – are remnants of a 1960s freeway system that was abandoned after public opposition. The viaducts now act as a barrier, cutting off neighbouhoods from the False Creek waterfront and each other.
Developing a bold, city-shaping concept plan
City planning and engineering staff worked with urban designers, and transportation and structural engineering consultants to reimagine the viaducts land. The concept proposes to:
Remove the viaducts structures
Reconfigure the road network at ground level
Allow for more park land and mixed-use development
Maintain key transportation routes to and from downtown for people and goods

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cts-study.aspx
This would be an interesting development to watch. A few things to start:

• How will the existing bus lines using that roadway and its surrounding streets will be rerouted over time to work with the new configuration?
• How much formerly "wasted" space below the viaduct will be opened up for redevelopment in the process, and where will the former parts of the soon-to-be removed structure be sent to?
• How many years will this redevelopment take shape, and what do you think will be its effects on the area's overall land value?
• If the area is close to the Skytrain, will opening the area provide opportunities for the rail line to be expanded to the area to improve its connectivity to Downtown Vancouver?
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:11 PM   #50
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Regarding the Barcelona project, it involves some tunneling, and this point is really well connected by transport public (metro + tram).


When the city of Barcelona started to grow and this new grow was planned the center of the new Barcelona was supposed to be this point, however the plan was lost with time, maybe because or past dictator or because the Olympic games that involved the creation of lots of infrastructure.


Now this place is scheduled to have the glory that it was supposed to (In fact this place is called the Catalonian glories square!)

One render of one of the possible choices:

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Old January 16th, 2014, 07:36 AM   #51
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Another freeway removal that is under consideration is the removal of the unsigned Interstate 345 east of downtown Dallas, Texas.
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Old January 24th, 2014, 07:25 PM   #52
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Another project in Barcelona.

Bury train lines on the east part of the city.

Actual state:






Plan:



Once finished is going to be the biggest urban park in Barcelona, and it is going to look like this:













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Old February 23rd, 2014, 07:13 PM   #53
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New things on Hamburg

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New Renders for the middle section in Stellingen-suburb of the Autobahn Cover Plate. Construction Start: Spring 2014


more renders here:
http://www.welt.de/regionales/hambur...an-der-A7.html
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Old March 9th, 2014, 08:09 PM   #54
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covering depressed urban freeways is a pretty ingenious idea. More efficient than dismantling the systems, certainly. In so many mid-size american cities, covering depressed roads with parks and structures would mend vast gashes in the urban fabric and really just win the cities back a significant amount of property that they sacrificed in the hay-day of municipal governments pandering to suburban communities.
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Old March 9th, 2014, 08:11 PM   #55
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by the way, here's a comprehensive study on this topic that I think is really relevant:
http://www.itdp.org/documents/Lifean...ays_031312.pdf
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Old May 30th, 2014, 12:57 AM   #56
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Providence Rhode Island's "Iway" Project

As a native of Little Rhody, I felt this topic was missing a good example of an ongoing process in the U.S. (Seattle's on it's way. Hopefully.) The state has relocated an old outdated, structurally deficient, and divisive highway through downtown. The highway was moved into an undeveloped area south of the Storm Surge barrier at the top of "beautiful" Narragansett Bay. The relocation and Demolition has been completed. And now a commission is working to sell the land! Here are some pics and other tidbits:



Here's a vid of the most impressive part of construction of the new highway. A little extra but interesting to say the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vROwFWDNe1c
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Old June 20th, 2014, 01:59 AM   #57
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It's tiny compared to most projects here, but for my hometown this is quite an event. I think it will do the city well.

From this:


To:








Info: http://www.aanpakringzuid.nl/plan/he...uiderplantsoen
3D Impression: http://www.aanpakringzuid.nl/index.p...ld/3d-beelden/
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Freeways are gifts to the people - simply put it is a FREE WAY. The whole anti-car hippie movement is old and tiring now i think people are starting to get sick of it. Its too late we live in a car dependent world well in the west we do anyway
Frightening attitude. No doubt you have some kind of right wing / religious / God Bless the American way faith in Motorways and you'd call public transport, cycling and makign walkable cities Commie/unamerican.

Well I know that the more space you give over to the car the more cars there are - cars fill the space you give over to them. The more rail you make the more people use it. The more walkable and cyclable you make streets, the more people walk and cycle. All of those green methods of moving are preferable and more humane. There is a place for cars, but we don't need to fill our cities with FREEWAYS. They are ugly, they create barriers to movement, they encourage ever greater numbers of cars, noise, pollution, and make cities less attractive and therefore less competitive. Walkable cities like London and New York are booming - people want to live there. Cities that are choked with highways are the opposite
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Old July 11th, 2014, 10:16 PM   #59
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Vancouver's Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts study




The City is reviewing the Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts land as part of the strategic planning review for the Eastern Core.
The viaducts – two elevated roadways connecting the Eastern Core area to downtown Vancouver – are remnants of a 1960s freeway system that was abandoned after public opposition. The viaducts now act as a barrier, cutting off neighbouhoods from the False Creek waterfront and each other.
Developing a bold, city-shaping concept plan
City planning and engineering staff worked with urban designers, and transportation and structural engineering consultants to reimagine the viaducts land. The concept proposes to:
Remove the viaducts structures
Reconfigure the road network at ground level
Allow for more park land and mixed-use development
Maintain key transportation routes to and from downtown for people and goods

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cts-study.aspx
I really hope the viaducts aren't demolished. I hope that the province doesn't let the city make that stupid mistake. They serve a purpose. Obviously they can be better integrated into the urban fabric of the area, but demolishing them and building the "super road" on Pacific will cause a nightmare.
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Frightening attitude. No doubt you have some kind of right wing / religious / God Bless the American way faith in Motorways and you'd call public transport, cycling and makign walkable cities Commie/unamerican.
That is an incredibly ignorant and offensive comment. Those of us who are 'right-wing' and religious don't necessarily share his narrow minded views. You should be ashamed of your collectivism and bigotry.
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