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Old May 26th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #81
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Here's an old news regarding Dumaguete's award as Cleanest Airport.

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Managers of the Air Transportation Office met in Dumaguete City Monday to find out the reason that led the Dumaguete airport to win as the Cleanest and Most Outstanding Trunkline Airport in the country for three consecutive years.

Visayas area manager Rodulfo Perez said airport managers discuss various concerns every quarter of the year.

Dumaguete ATO Chief Veronica Chuang said the city's Trunkline Airport is constructing a new building for its administration office.

The old office will be utilized as guest room while the passenger holding area will be expanded to accommodate more passengers.

She said she is also hoping that their request for an x-ray security machine will be granted after President Gloria Arroyo promised the renovation of the airport.

The local ATO is currently undertaking fencing construction around the airport area to secure the perimeter.

Chang said she has no special strategy in running the local ATO except for motivating her personnel to do their jobs well.

Meanwhile, Perez said tourism is one of the primary concerns of the ATO, especially with the increasing number of tourist arrivals in the country.

He said they needed to come up with plans of actions to develop the airports of the country.

Central Visayas is under the tourism belt area of the five super regions program of President Arroyo.
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Old May 26th, 2011, 03:10 PM   #82
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But sir I remember before sa Bacolod ( a long time ago), we have that red and white striped thing at the end of the runway that faced the Araneta St. and city proper. But later parang di ko na nakita. Was that a deflector too?
Thought there was one too during the days of the BAC-111s, where the engines are at the tail. But the old Bacolod Airport runway is not as close to the highway in Dumaguete where it almost perpendicular to the edge. I was a bit taken a back first time I passed that highway before and seeing that deflector. By the way, as old as it is, the check-in is still pretty decent and clean, the pre-departure is getting crowded though but the shiny floor and clean ceiling helped the space.
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Old May 26th, 2011, 03:49 PM   #83
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Thought there was one too during the days of the BAC-111s, where the engines are at the tail. But the old Bacolod Airport runway is not as close to the highway in Dumaguete where it almost perpendicular to the edge. I was a bit taken a back first time I passed that highway before and seeing that deflector. By the way, as old as it is, the check-in is still pretty decent and clean, the pre-departure is getting crowded though but the shiny floor and clean ceiling helped the space.
yep...basta a long time ago meron sa Bacolod Airport thats why when I went to Dumaguete, I recognized those things that I saw that made me say, "uy airport runway na pala ito"

Dumaguete should be proud that they have a beautiful airport
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Old May 27th, 2011, 05:09 AM   #84
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We sure are... Especially on how they give importance to cleanliness and the environment around the airport...
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Old May 27th, 2011, 05:12 AM   #85
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Thought there was one too during the days of the BAC-111s, where the engines are at the tail. But the old Bacolod Airport runway is not as close to the highway in Dumaguete where it almost perpendicular to the edge. I was a bit taken a back first time I passed that highway before and seeing that deflector. By the way, as old as it is, the check-in is still pretty decent and clean, the pre-departure is getting crowded though but the shiny floor and clean ceiling helped the space.
There were 3 different flights that time that's why it was a little crowded. 1 PR flight to Manila, 1 5J to MNL and 1 delayed flight to CEB.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 05:47 AM   #86
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Dumaguete airport might expand westward, beyond the national highway

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Old May 31st, 2011, 11:04 AM   #87
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Dumaguete is one of the planned destinations in my list. At least in the next 2 years.

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As I have said...Dumaguete can wait....your airport is one of the most challenging in the country....before the old Bacolod Airport is also limited and is a tough challenge to pilots...even it has extended out to the sea there were weight restrictions then....the flight path runs along the city proper/downtown of Bacolod...It was even said that, the best PAL pilots fly the Bacolod route since it takes good precision to take off and land at a short airport just 4 kilometers from the downtown area



The old Bacolod Airport
Or maybe, the same thing will be done to DGT as was to BCD. The airport was transferred to Silay where there's less hazard. Is there any plan of building one outside Dumaguete? Our old airports did not anticipate the rapid urbanization and sometimes the only option left is to relocate.

OT: I remember when I was still in gradeschool (Cauayan, Isabela), PAL pilots complained about structures near the flight path violating the high restrictions. There were 2 similar cases that time. One is Sugarland Hotel in Bacolod. I forgot about the third case. Sugarland demolished its uppermost floor to comply. What our airport did? - extended the runway...

Point is, safety is a foremost concern. It's a way of life. We cannot leave safety to chances. Just like one of the ideas of OHSAS in the workplace, if there's something that may go wrong...it will go wrong. So it has to be dealt with proactively. And on this aspect, our main carriers (5J and PR) are very much particular about.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 02:11 PM   #88
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I like this report of the airport manager except except that if you take into account almost all the cases of provincial airports like this Philippines, no project as such ever materialized. Why?, to extend the runway by 200m also requires overrun plus clearway, so it is not exactly that much only. Next, there are side clearances or set backs to deal with from the centerline of the runway, that's another 150m at least both sides, now, the highway has to be diverted and you need to clear another 50m strip of land for that because you don't just build a highway just like what you have in the present, it has to be planned for the furture, and same with airport. There is no overrun on the sea end of the runway so in the end the threshold has to be displaced to allow for that because it is expensive to reclaim land much less destroy the eco balance on that beach, in the end, it may end up with the same length albeit having better overruns both sides. Well, the runway can take more flights and larger aircraft but then is there room to extend the tarmac and terminal plus room for the fluorishing flight schools?, not that much I believe. By the way, expropriation is the toughest animal of them all and it only takes one bad egg to spoil the plan. Reminds me of that lawyer in Tagbilaran who barricaded the small runway extension due to delayed payment for his land. CAAP has to issue a NOTAM because PAL thought it was usable!
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Old June 1st, 2011, 05:01 PM   #89
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What could be the result of the survey? For westward expansion a visible terrain can be seen. oh well, can this be materialized? they have to do something or rapid urbanization could get worse.



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I like this report of the airport manager except except that if you take into account almost all the cases of provincial airports like this Philippines, no project as such ever materialized. Why?, to extend the runway by 200m also requires overrun plus clearway, so it is not exactly that much only. Next, there are side clearances or set backs to deal with from the centerline of the runway, that's another 150m at least both sides, now, the highway has to be diverted and you need to clear another 50m strip of land for that because you don't just build a highway just like what you have in the present, it has to be planned for the furture, and same with airport. There is no overrun on the sea end of the runway so in the end the threshold has to be displaced to allow for that because it is expensive to reclaim land much less destroy the eco balance on that beach, in the end, it may end up with the same length albeit having better overruns both sides. Well, the runway can take more flights and larger aircraft but then is there room to extend the tarmac and terminal plus room for the fluorishing flight schools?, not that much I believe. By the way, expropriation is the toughest animal of them all and it only takes one bad egg to spoil the plan. Reminds me of that lawyer in Tagbilaran who barricaded the small runway extension due to delayed payment for his land. CAAP has to issue a NOTAM because PAL thought it was usable!
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For a single-floor terminal building, Dumaguete - Sibulan Airport is lovely. Its interiors are also lovely with nice spacing and well-lit area.

If there is a proposal to build a New Dumaguete Airport of International Standards, I would really actively support that para it can bring more flights to Dumaguete. It would be very beneficial for Bacoleños too if that comes to Dumaguete. It can serve as an alternate gateway during the times ticket prices soar during Masskara. I'm just tired passing by New Iloilo Airport everytime tickets are triple the price in Bacolod.
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For a single-floor terminal building, Dumaguete - Sibulan Airport is lovely. Its interiors are also lovely with nice spacing and well-lit area.

If there is a proposal to build a New Dumaguete Airport of International Standards, I would really actively support that para it can bring more flights to Dumaguete. It would be very beneficial for Bacoleños too if that comes to Dumaguete. It can serve as an alternate gateway during the times ticket prices soar during Masskara. I'm just tired passing by New Iloilo Airport everytime tickets are triple the price in Bacolod.
Are the fares to Bacolod that ridiculously expensive as compared to going via Ilo-ilo or Dumaguete?Maybe this occurs only during festival. I suppose taking a fast craft from Ilo-ilo to Bacolod is faster as compared to the bus travel from Dumaguete, although this land trip could be cheaper.
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For a single-floor terminal building, Dumaguete - Sibulan Airport is lovely. Its interiors are also lovely with nice spacing and well-lit area.

If there is a proposal to build a New Dumaguete Airport of International Standards, I would really actively support that para it can bring more flights to Dumaguete. It would be very beneficial for Bacoleños too if that comes to Dumaguete. It can serve as an alternate gateway during the times ticket prices soar during Masskara. I'm just tired passing by New Iloilo Airport everytime tickets are triple the price in Bacolod.
There goes those words again!
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Are the fares to Bacolod that ridiculously expensive as compared to going via Ilo-ilo or Dumaguete?Maybe this occurs only during festival. I suppose taking a fast craft from Ilo-ilo to Bacolod is faster as compared to the bus travel from Dumaguete, although this land trip could be cheaper.
I love the view of the trip from Dumaguete to Bacolod. I feel more comfortable to be in Dumaguete since I know that I am already in Negros Island than in Iloilo that is still across the sea.

As for the fares... yep, time three the price most of the time. I even encountered an P8,000 ticket at one time.
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There goes those words again!
Yep, I find the word "international standards" sometimes funny since the Bacolod Airport that is supposed to be of "international standards" still acts like the old ugly airport. Haay... Dumaguete Airport act more sane oftentimes.
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Yep, I find the word "international standards" sometimes funny since the Bacolod Airport that is supposed to be of "international standards" still acts like the old ugly airport. Haay... Dumaguete Airport act more sane oftentimes.
Hmmm... of "international" standards meaning it complies with the minimum international requirements to run an airport. Meaning it may have the proper NavAids to reduce the chances of accidents and like.

BCD and ILO are of "international Standards". I guess, It may just be some people running or using it that makes it appear these airports are not of " international standards". (no offense meant to the people... not everybody acts this way...)

Its ok for Dumaguete-Sibulan Airport aspire for these standards and at least they are in their realistic vision that they need to improve what they have.
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Hmmm... of "international" standards meaning it complies with the minimum international requirements to run an airport. Meaning it may have the proper NavAids to reduce the chances of accidents and like.

BCD and ILO are of "international Standards". I guess, It may just be some people running or using it that makes it appear these airports are not of " international standards". (no offense meant to the people... not everybody acts this way...)

Its ok for Dumaguete-Sibulan Airport aspire for these standards and at least they are in their realistic vision that they need to improve what they have.
Dumaguete is a growing City and in ten years time, it can already qualify for a highly-urbanized city status. It needs a bigger airport in a few years time as well since it is also a university town and during classes, it also caters to an ever growing student population especially from Mindanao. Both the city and the airport have bright prospects in the future.
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Hmmm... of "international" standards meaning it complies with the minimum international requirements to run an airport. Meaning it may have the proper NavAids to reduce the chances of accidents and like.

BCD and ILO are of "international Standards". I guess, It may just be some people running or using it that makes it appear these airports are not of " international standards". (no offense meant to the people... not everybody acts this way...)

Its ok for Dumaguete-Sibulan Airport aspire for these standards and at least they are in their realistic vision that they need to improve what they have.
What is interesting in all these airport name discussions is that there are those who want to promote them by virtue of the flights they receive, and those by basis of the technical characteristics it posses. One airport thread I admire is Ozamiz; with so much hype with the association of the word "international", this one actually gives more emphasis to the word "national", humble yet the 2nd fastest growing airport in the Philippines next to Kalibo- an international airport.
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Filipinos love to add "qualifiers" to anything, that's why we have a ton of tag-ons and add-ons to the names of everything. As if just saying the name without frivolous adjectives is a grievous sin and should get a walloping.
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For us from Dumaguete, in my opinion anyway, we are pretty much satisfied with the present airport that we have and I don't recall anyone of us tagging the airport as International or global standard or what not. We didnt even add any qualifier for the airport, just Dumaguete-Sibulan Airport. I guess the only thing that was emphasized from our end was perhaps the possibility of extending the runway or even perhaps the possibility of transferring the airport, but even with that, I don't believe there were qualifiers tagged to DGT.
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I used to transit on this airport just to save P2,000 on DC-9. Ah, Those were the days!

There was one episode though when I was booked for 2P and 5J wasn't able to land due to crosswind. I left on time to Manila while the DC-9 was stuck in Cebu. That is how careful they were after the Sumagaya incident.
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