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Old July 3rd, 2011, 09:30 PM   #721
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Maybe it would be ineresting to make a "special round" after the cup, with the winner of the cup against WTC Twin Towers?
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 09:34 PM   #722
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kingsc i believe that is the roof(one of the observation decks are there i think) then it goes to antenna not a spire

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Old July 3rd, 2011, 09:45 PM   #723
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There were two points I have been observing in this competition which, as a skyscraper and architecture fan, have disappointed me.

The first one is, of course, fake voting. That is self explanatory.

However the other thing that leaves me surprised is that people don't actually vote for the qualities of the building from an rchitectural point of view but rather its 'image' and 'icon'. I have been a skyscraper fan since I was about 5 and so I am today more than 20 years on. I have never understood why some skyscrapers are rated so highly by so many people. I mean that massive and tasteless spire on ESB is horrendous! It was built solely for the purpose of height and wasn't even implemented in a tasteful manner (which, e.g., Petronas did much better). I think it is good to distinguish what is truly great architecture from 'image' and 'icon' created by popular media and advertising yet the actual architecture is tasteless and unsophisticated. That, to be honest, disappoints me even more than the fake voting because delusional opinions are more dangerous than the fake ones.
ESB (one of the best designs of all time) (partly) tasteless?! I am gonna report this by Jan for a perm ban as well by other authorities in order to let you get prosecuted.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 09:58 PM   #724
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kingsc i believe that is the roof(one of the observation decks are there i think) then it goes to antenna not a spire
I live in NYC and see ESB everyday. The antenna is on top of the spire.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 09:59 PM   #725
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Personally, I find the Chrysler and BoC towers to be on equal footing, as they are both spectacular in their own respective styles. The Chrysler Building is architecturally beautiful and it stands out (more so than the ESB - excluding height - IMHO), and the BoC tower is so unique and is a truly recognizable design, and is so simple yet nuanced that it to deserves a semi-final berth.
The real shame (other than the fake votes, obviously) is that the 2 buildings had to face each other early on.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 10:28 PM   #726
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my girlfriend cant vote anymore with her 3 posts i think
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 10:51 PM   #727
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Maybe it would be ineresting to make a "special round" after the cup, with the winner of the cup against WTC Twin Towers?
I don't think there's much point there. People may say how much they miss the Twins, and I'm sure they miss their impact on the skyline, and obviously the way in which they were lost is unbearably sad, but the actual design of the towers wasn't at all inspiring.

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ESB (one of the best designs of all time) (partly) tasteless?! I am gonna report this by Jan for a perm ban as well by other authorities in order to let you get prosecuted.
Prosecuted for thinking that people who don't like the ESB have no taste? I think it's a pretty stupid thing to say, but why in the hell should he be banned for it? That's even more ludicrous. You're intolerance seems far greater than his.

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my girlfriend cant vote anymore with her 3 posts i think
Can she not just post a bit more, or do you have to have had 6 posts when Jan sorted it out?
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 10:58 PM   #728
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Can she not just post a bit more, or do you have to have had 6 posts when Jan sorted it out?
i just checked, she isnt banned, so i just tell her to make 3 posts, so she can continue playing guess the city and the one on ones with me.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 11:45 PM   #729
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Prosecuted for thinking that people who don't like the ESB have no taste? I think it's a pretty stupid thing to say, but why in the hell should he be banned for it? That's even more ludicrous. You're intolerance seems far greater than his.
I'm pretty sure he was joking.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 11:52 PM   #730
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Do you think? I can never be sure on these boards. Intolerance is rife.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 11:59 PM   #731
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I thought he was using sarcasm... lol bruce tenmile you are way too serious.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 12:16 AM   #732
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I'm pretty sure he was joking.
Yes, the ban should be extended to everyone who voted for BOC and/or the Guangzhou IFC.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 12:29 AM   #733
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I thought he was using sarcasm... lol bruce tenmile you are way too serious.
Sorry, sarcasm doesn't come out well in text, and it just seemed like the kind of thing someone would say seriously here.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #734
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Oh my, what we have here!

There were so many fake votes, ha!?

Well, I did not come here for a while on purpose. Now, it has much more sense, I think.

The voting can continue fairly!
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #735
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this (bruce's comment above). a major component of sarcasm is tone of voice, which cant be reflected in words.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:36 AM   #736
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woooo go chrystler :3 if it wins this i think it can beat petronas
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:42 AM   #737
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To overtake Chrysler?
The Empire State Building doesn't really need its spire to beat Chrysler. The substantial part of the building is taller by itself.

The ESB's spire is a thing of beauty with its art deco wings. It's not merely a height booster.

The ESB's overall form, massing, symmetry and proportions are also superb, as the photo below demonstrates.

It's a glorious art deco rocket...

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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:44 AM   #738
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this (bruce's comment above). a major component of sarcasm is tone of voice, which cant be reflected in words.
And some common sense and context, emoticon definintely helps too.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:52 AM   #739
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I think this will help some people see the difference http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=51296573
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:53 AM   #740
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Now I have to choose between ESB and Petronas....I might put on a blind fold and click on one.
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