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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:14 AM   #741
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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:21 AM   #742
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People say its a real shame that too many votes are based on height, i say the opposite, its a real shame that way too many people disregard the difference in size. You people might as well go cherish some 5 stories art-decos.

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IMHO it looks rather tired comparing to the new glassy skyscrapers. Dont really see how 'elegant' really fits in as many people have described it..
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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:41 AM   #743
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Old July 4th, 2011, 04:14 AM   #744
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That picture Kix quoted of ESB should have been used for the competition, instead of some night lit picture which shows only a fraction of the tower.

ESB and Chrysler both have pretty similar designs, just like many of today's boxes and towers. They share a lot of similarity. Of course the top of the two towers differ, but that is about it.

@Kix: When people fall in love with someone, everything about them looks good. Same concept here. ESB has got the height, class, history, elegance, iconic figure, nice placement etc etc etc..............

Compared to many new CBDs around the world and the towers in them (Shanghai, KL, Hong Kong), I find NYC one big mess. Never found the fascination with it. Which part of it is the defining skyline? HK sometimes annoy me when the build mediocre towers in front of nice towers as well. Of course, this message will only be received by true skyscraper fans. Those that have fallen in love with NYC and its bits will just quote me and give me 'reasons' why I might be incorrect
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Old July 4th, 2011, 04:27 AM   #745
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That picture Kix quoted of ESB should have been used for the competition, instead of some night lit picture which shows only a fraction of the tower.
I think I must have explained 600 times by now that this is not a photo contest, but we're voting on the building. The image is just a reminder of what you're voting on. If you're voting by the image alone, you shouldn't be voting.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 04:41 AM   #746
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Yes, but still, every tower deserves to have a decent picture. If if was truly to be a knowledge tower contest, there shouldn't be pictures at all right? We should know what it looks like before voting. However, I'm just annoyed that the pictures aren't of the same quality for all towers. You would be naive to think that the quality of the picture doesn't affect the way people vote when they are about to press that vote button for the towers.

We can't have renders for some towers, a fraction of some towers, night views of others and daytime pictures in others. They should all be the same and they should all show the full tower. If all the images were the same, this is no longer a photo contest. You would be voting for towers that look good, that deserves to be the winner.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 04:51 AM   #747
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@Jan

Yes this is not a photo contest, but what guarantees people are not voting on just the image?

If people were really to put in the effort and research the towers before they cast their vote, then all there need is the name of the tower. By giving pictures, it is giving voters a prima facie impression and comparison of the two towers based on the quality of the pictures.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 05:13 AM   #748
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What happened to all the votes for BOC and Guangzhou IFC?
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Old July 4th, 2011, 05:15 AM   #749
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I hope Chrylser 'll win.
In my opinion this diagram shows again how ugly Burj Khalifa is.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 05:21 AM   #750
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Old July 4th, 2011, 05:53 AM   #751
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What happened to all the votes for BOC and Guangzhou IFC?
a graet justice happened
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Old July 4th, 2011, 06:35 AM   #752
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What happened to all the votes for BOC and Guangzhou IFC?
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I just did an extensive research on the voting and found a large number of votes cast by accounts which were all registered around the same time, all have 0 posts to their names and only voted for the one on one on the days of the semies. They are all registered with the same IP ranges and email domains. User name all have the same structure. Those are all clear signs someone or a group of people abused accounts just to rig a vote. I deleted all these votes and did a recount.

If someone thinks their vote got deleted, please send me a PM.

That resulted in the following end result for the quarter finals:

Burj Khalifa: was 879, after recount: 879
Willis Tower: was 791, after recount: 482

Chrysler Building: was 640, after recount: 631
Bank of China Tower: was 770, after recount: 442

Two IFC: was 444 , after recount: 314
Petronas Towers: was 935, after recount: 749

Guangzhou IFC: was 828, after recount: 390
Empire State Building: was 763, after recount: 761

That means that the semi finals will be Burj Khalifa vs Chrysler Building, and Petronas Towers vs. Empire State Building.

These will start Monday. From now on, only registered members with at least 5 posts to their name get to vote.

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Old July 4th, 2011, 06:53 AM   #753
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Wow, Chrysler is beating the BK, I dont think is gonna last too much, Chrysler is an amazing building, a piece of art, But the BK is just at another level from that, +800 meters is a lot, also I think the Chrysler building photo is not good.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 07:29 AM   #754
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The BK is just a big concrete slab, with glass on it. when you look at it, there isn't really any great details on it at all
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Old July 4th, 2011, 07:44 AM   #755
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woooo go chrystler :3 if it wins this i think it can beat petronas
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Old July 4th, 2011, 08:54 AM   #756
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Old July 4th, 2011, 08:57 AM   #757
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Burj khalifa is a man made marvelous..chrysler is good,but im getting bored with that style..not inspiring and the fascade is just ugly and doesnt have chemistry with that hideous
aluminium foil crown..
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Old July 4th, 2011, 09:52 AM   #758
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People say its a real shame that too many votes are based on height, i say the opposite, its a real shame that way too many people disregard the difference in size. You people might as well go cherish some 5 stories art-decos.
Five stories won't do. What's important is the tower form - the elegant vertical proportions - not total height. Taipei 101 is a perfect example of a tower that is very tall but with zero architectural merit. Turning Torso is a tower of 191m that is one of the finest ever built, anywhere. TT is better architecture than almost every tower in this competition.
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IMHO it looks rather tired comparing to the new glassy skyscrapers. Dont really see how 'elegant' really fits in as many people have described it..
But far too often the glass on modern towers is a dull green-grey under most light conditions. They look dark and oppressive. I think in 20 years time we'll look back on much of what we're building today in the same way as we look back on decayed concrete buildings from the 60s.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #759
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Dam mate, you are tough on words. However, I'm starting to think that you see things from a West (english/america) perspective.

Why does Taipei101 lack architectural merit?
Do you know what it is supposed to represent? Of all the 'Chinese' buildings, Taipei 101 along with Jin Mao show history yet are modern. You shouldn't have messed with these two towers since it now makes you look extremely ignorant. You may not 'see' the design, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist!!!!

I think a handful of towers from this era (1990-2010) will remain classics and age gracefully, others will just be forgotten. Most of the modern towers, if built outside of the 'west' will never been discovered and will remain forever dormant in countries like Australia and the US. I'm not too pleased with the way tower designs are heading in the future. Almost all cities around the world are construction similar styled, munted styled buildings. Not many towers seem to carry the detailed 'Petronas' effect anymore. Many towers in China look repetitive and lack their culture.

A lot of the modern towers are moving away from the darker shades of glass and moving towards the light gray or clear glass
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Old July 4th, 2011, 10:26 AM   #760
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Dam mate, you are tough on words. However, I'm starting to think that you see things from a West (english/america) perspective.
But haven't I expressed admiration for Turning Torso, Bank of China, and SWFC? (None of which are in Britain or America.) Yes, I think Taipei 101's horrible. I don't much like the Sears Tower either. There are ugly towers in all parts of the world.
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Why does Taipei101 lack architectural merit?
The hideous green glass, the gold medallion, etc. It's just utterly vile.
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Do you know what it is supposed to represent? Of all the 'Chinese' buildings, Taipei 101 along with Jin Mao show history yet are modern. You shouldn't have messed with these two towers since it now makes you look extremely ignorant. You may not 'see' the design, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist!!!!
Actually I never mentioned Jin Mao, and, for, what its worth, I rather like it. However it's no match for the SWFC.
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A lot of the modern towers are moving away from the darker shades of glass and moving towards the light gray or clear glass
Only a handful. Most new towers look a dingy dull grey-green.
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