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Old July 4th, 2011, 10:42 AM   #761
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Taipei 101 design catches my eye, more than any other building on this planet. It's my favorite building.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 11:03 AM   #762
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funny how so many people say buildings like esb are "old and tired" but buidlings built today are "futuristic". How can something be resemblant of the future when it was built in the recent past? im sure that in 50 years, people will look back on these "futuristic" buildings that are built today and view them with the same disdain people today view the 60's-70's buildings.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 11:10 AM   #763
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Will they seem to hate the buildings from the 30's more. But let somebody tear one down, to build a new skyscraper. And they'll cry, Wondering why nobody tried to save it.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:14 PM   #764
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Five stories won't do. What's important is the tower form - the elegant vertical proportions - not total height. Taipei 101 is a perfect example of a tower that is very tall but with zero architectural merit. Turning Torso is a tower of 191m that is one of the finest ever built, anywhere. TT is better architecture than almost every tower in this competition.But far too often the glass on modern towers is a dull green-grey under most light conditions. They look dark and oppressive. I think in 20 years time we'll look back on much of what we're building today in the same way as we look back on decayed concrete buildings from the 60s.
A five story art deco that has the same vertical proportion as the Chrysler. Your views are way too extreme.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #765
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A five story art deco that has the same vertical proportion as the Chrysler. Your views are way too extreme.
How is that extreme? You bringing a five story building into was stupid in the first place as we are talking about supertalls.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:41 PM   #766
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I admire the Chrysler Building, but this time I'll go with BK. Both are impressive structures, but unfortunately I can't vote for both.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:42 PM   #767
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How is that extreme? You bringing a five story building into was stupid in the first place as we are talking about supertalls.


Taipei 101 has zero architectural merit is not extreme? Right.

And i was just making a joke upon 'its the design that matters not height'...
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:49 PM   #768
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Well it's his opinion. It may be the polar opposite of yours, but that doesn't make it extreme.

Yeah, I saw your point, but design is the most important thing. Height, yes, it's a part of it, but it shouldn't have that much influence. I would say maybe 1/5 would be more than sufficient for height.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:51 PM   #769
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i never liked taipei 101 because it had such a unique design, just not used to a design like that. but then i wrote an essay about the building and now i love it haha
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:52 PM   #770
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The Burj Khalifa is mankind's greatest engineering and architectural achievement to date and deserves to win. The Chrystler, although a worthy opponent, has had it's day and is now looking old, tired and outdated, though its timeless design will help it stand out for many years to come.

No contest if you ask me - the Burj wins hands down.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:56 PM   #771
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Well it's his opinion. It may be the polar opposite of yours, but that doesn't make it extreme.

Yeah, I saw your point, but design is the most important thing. Height, yes, it's a part of it, but it shouldn't have that much influence. I would say maybe 1/5 would be more than sufficient for height.
I dislike T101 myself but i dont think anyone has grounds to disapprove a building in such a manner. Gotta at least appreciate the effort architects put into the building.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 01:58 PM   #772
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I don't think anyone has 'gotta' appreciate anything. I do take your point though, to say it has no merit at all is quite unfair, but if that's his opinion, well that's that.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 02:45 PM   #773
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Well it's his opinion. It may be the polar opposite of yours, but that doesn't make it extreme.

Yeah, I saw your point, but design is the most important thing. Height, yes, it's a part of it, but it shouldn't have that much influence. I would say maybe 1/5 would be more than sufficient for height.
Not extreme? He completely ignores the details of the building. He doesn't see it!!!! Its not just about views and whether 'i like it or not' in this case since the design clearly came from bamboo shoots. He might not like it, thats fine, but no merit is completely ignoring what exists.

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I don't think anyone has 'gotta' appreciate anything. I do take your point though, to say it has no merit at all is quite unfair, but if that's his opinion, well that's that.
You probably wouldn't of said the same if Taipei 101 was replaced with ESB or Chrysler + same as above


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But haven't I expressed admiration for Turning Torso, Bank of China, and SWFC? (None of which are in Britain or America.) Yes, I think Taipei 101's horrible. I don't much like the Sears Tower either. There are ugly towers in all parts of the world.The hideous green glass, the gold medallion, etc. It's just utterly vile.Actually I never mentioned Jin Mao, and, for, what its worth, I rather like it. However it's no match for the SWFC.Only a handful. Most new towers look a dingy dull grey-green.
With Jin mao and SWFC, and i wouldn't say that SWFC completely outdoes Jin Mao. Jin Mao has a lot of things that SWFC doesn't have, the detail, the cultural influence, historical significance etc
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Old July 4th, 2011, 02:55 PM   #774
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You probably wouldn't of said the same if Taipei 101 was replaced with ESB or Chrysler + same as above
I dunno, I would hope that I would say the same, but I may have said different in the past.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:11 PM   #775
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BK is the greatest building that ever build but CB, ESB and PETRONAS is the best in their's era
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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:28 PM   #776
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I'm looking forward to the 70s cup.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #777
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I admire the Chrysler Building, but this time I'll go with BK. Both are impressive structures, but unfortunately I can't vote for both.
Yeah me too. Just to bad some of us are a bit too sentimental to chose the one that really deserves (even though both towers are great) to win this one.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 03:58 PM   #778
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Every one hav their own opinion...
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Old July 4th, 2011, 04:04 PM   #779
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Yeah me too. Just to bad some of us are a bit too sentimental to chose the one that really deserves (even though both towers are great) to win this one.
Dude, how many times? I don't like the Burj much. You do. That's cool. Stop telling us we are only voting Chrysler due to sentimentality. I guess though I've probably fought fire with fire and said most are only voting for the Burj due to being in awe of it's height, so I haven't any leg to stand on.
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It wasn't directly to you. But yeah you look like one of those voting out of sentimentality. No offence intended. It's just the impression I have.
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