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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:04 PM   #121
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Even a narrow (and extremely expensive per square foot) building would be maybe 30 feet wide to be somewhat useful. I can't see buildings being added west of the current building line. Median, parking, landscaping, some market stalls or food trucks will fill up the ROW. Maybe info kiosks, restrooms and a meeting room (like Cal Anderson park?) could be inserted here and there.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #122
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I was wrong. There aren't as many parcels as I thought.

I know this video has been posted before but this really helped to clarify my thinking on the Viaduct, the existing buildings and how things are going to look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3VmK...ure=plpp_video
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Old July 11th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #123
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Every parking lot/garage in downtown Seattle. Complete waste of perfectly good land that could be put to use to benefit society!
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Old July 12th, 2012, 12:23 AM   #124
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Back in 2008, Dan Bertolet had a great post on how empty the waterfront will feel, and we should push everything westward and add buildings. I still completely agree.
Could fill some of that emptiness with a streetcar. (Note: I still think a First Ave streetcar is more important.)
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Old July 12th, 2012, 12:31 AM   #125
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Note those renderings had streetcars. And there was still vast empty space.

Give cars less space (they can take the friggen tunnel), narrow the pedestrian area, and sell narrow plots of land on the eastern strip. Someone will build there - short, medium, or tall. Even single story restaurants and trinket shops would be far more useful than empty pedestrian space.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #126
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Note those renderings had streetcars. And there was still vast empty space.

Give cars less space (they can take the friggen tunnel), narrow the pedestrian area, and sell narrow plots of land on the eastern strip. Someone will build there - short, medium, or tall. Even single story restaurants and trinket shops would be far more useful than empty pedestrian space.
I did notice...but it was single track like the old one. To be of any practical use, it would have to be double-tracked.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 09:21 AM   #127
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There is practically no room to build buildings where the viaduct is right now. As it is the Waterfront plans do not have excessive parkland along Alaskan Way, but rather everything fits in quite nicely.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 06:33 AM   #128
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Since we were discussing this in another thread...

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Old July 18th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #129
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Yep. That's my #1.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #130
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Agreed. But replace with what? Expanded square or super skinny sliver bldg?
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Old July 18th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #131
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Agreed. But replace with what? Expanded square or super skinny sliver bldg?
That, too, discussed. Fountain plaza or skinny residential (probably too small for useful office of any height).
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Old July 18th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #132
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Pencil tower built out to maximum allowed height of 500' with retail at the base to activate the plaza that already exists and is hardly used. And of course to take advantage of the streetcar that literally stops at what might be the buildings front door. TOD at it's finest.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 07:27 PM   #133
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Pencil tower built out to maximum allowed height of 500' with retail at the base to activate the plaza that already exists and is hardly used. And of course to take advantage of the streetcar that literally stops at what might be the buildings front door. TOD at it's finest.
Don't forget the light rail station, the Monorail, and a major bus hub. That's where all of Seattle's transit converges at one point.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #134
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Square_-_A.jpg
We lost the historic Seattle Hotel and replaced it with a wonderful parking lot!
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Old July 18th, 2012, 09:14 PM   #135
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That, too, discussed. Fountain plaza or skinny residential (probably too small for useful office of any height).
Honestly, ANYthing that takes advantage of that Streetcar terminal, and the proximity to the retail core would be lovely.

Standalone one-storey banks ALWAYS piss me off, because bank branches are so perfectly suited to being in the lobbies of skyscrapers. No reason for them to have their own suburban structure.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 05:51 PM   #136
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Since we were discussing this in another thread...

Speaking of this area, anyone know what movie they are filming here today? Film crew blocking a few streets.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 06:14 PM   #137
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Don't know movie but the fancy buses for cast and or crew were parked on Seneca by W and Fairmont yesterday
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Old November 13th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #138
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Arise...arise thread, and go forth...

Alright first up: I've mentioned this before, but now have pictures...
What in the Holy hell is going on with this block? I've never seen any design reviews, planning info, ANYthing... It's just a dead block in the middle of the financial district...with a plastic castle and slide. The low-rises are nothing special either.




I knew someone else did a hatchet job on this block. I'll be brief.

I was walking by on Saturday with my urban development glasses on and was just blown away by how awful this stretch of 1st Avenue is.

This playground on 1st and Seneca just kills me.
This thing would be shitty looking in someones suburban backyard, not to mention in the middle of a downtown area.

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And then a run of crap-tastic buildings...


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..punctuated by Youngs Market, probably one of the scummiest of the already filthy deli/quickie marts in the downtown area.
Nice touch with the busted-up ghetto-looking aluminum siding.


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I went in to buy a couple of Powerball tickets and the place was a street-freak scene.
I feel for the poor bastard that actually gets something out of one of the cases and eats it.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 12:04 AM   #139
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The block can mostly go. The beautiful old Brock blodg
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The block can mostly go. The beautiful old Brock blodg
Lets try that again. The old brick bldg on corner of University and 1st can stay. Rest can go
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