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Old April 19th, 2011, 08:25 PM   #1
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Isle of Dogs Projects Thread

As activity picks up I feel we need to just have a general thread for development in the area. For some of the bigger schemes we could create separate threads, but many of the smaller out of the way schemes onyl get an update once a month. The South East London thread is getting a bit unwieldy, so I wonder if we should also put Greenwich peninsula stuff in here.


I'll cross post some other people stuff here to build it up.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 08:27 PM   #2
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Here is one

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I'm loath to put any of my own lame photos on after (another) amazing update from Chest, but I was in the area today and here goes.

I really hope the second phase of the Indescon court scheme (the high-rise bit) goes up eventually; as you can see the Lantern's Court scheme seems monolithic and blocky from the North.





So a 90-100m tower (whether the one planned, or not) would add some much-needed variety!

As yet there is no sign of progress; the site is the marketing suite for the completed low-rise part of the Indescon Court scheme.

I hadn't been to the South Quay for a year - having worked in the area for the previous two - and was actually pretty heartened to see that the previously dismally empty streets south of Marsh Wall now have a bit of life to them. People have moved into some of the new blocks and it was nice to see a mix of families with kids and banker types wandering in and out.

Little things like posters for upcoming events at the community centre adjoining the Mastmaker Road development stuck in people's windows seem... encouraging.



It's not great architecture. But at least there's a bit of density here.



I wonder what's going to happen to the (very large) London Millharbour site - deserted for years now.

Let's hope that, when something does go up, that it's good - if only to offset the effect of two of the area's worst new buildings, the Hilton and Discovery Dock East.



And I wonder when, if ever, they're going to do something about the office scheme adjoining the Hilton.



That scaffolding's been there unchanged since 2007 at least.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 08:08 AM   #3
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As activity picks up I feel we need to just have a general thread for development in the area. For some of the bigger schemes we could create separate threads, but many of the smaller out of the way schemes onyl get an update once a month. The South East London thread is getting a bit unwieldy, so I wonder if we should also put Greenwich peninsula stuff in here.


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Greenwich Peninsula is in south-east London though.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 03:05 PM   #4
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It was just an idea. I thought it might be good to keep Docklands a bit separate. There are a lot of sites to cover. It would be nice when some one does a photo update then can just post all their photos in one or two places. Some of the smaller projects don't get covered at all or only infrequently. I think that is the sucess of the SE London thread.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 08:09 PM   #5
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Here's a list of the Skyscrapers (UK - >150m) that have approval in Canary Wharf/ Docklands.

Riverside South - 236m, 189m


North Quay - 216m, 203m, 120m


Heron Quays West - 198m, 147m, 95m


1 Park Place - 197m


Mill Harbour - 151m


Cross Harbour - 150m


Must say, I quite like Cross Harbour ad Mill Harbour.

The Woodwharf redevelopment scheme is the jewel in the crown though!


Woodwharf - 200m, 187m, 182m, 154m




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RS (http://static.worldarchitecturenews....south1main.jpg)
NQ (http://www.urbika.com/imgs/projects/...north-quay.jpg)
HQW (http://www.wharf.co.uk/heronquays.jpg)
1PP (http://www.1parkplace.co.uk/1_park_place.jpg)
MH (http://www.coltinfo.co.uk/products-a...ll-harbour.jpg)
CH (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/crossharbour_render1.jpg)
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Old April 20th, 2011, 09:57 PM   #6
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Good list, but it's missing the columbus tower, which is higher than riverside south right?
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Old April 21st, 2011, 12:44 AM   #7
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Mill Harbour - 151m
That's Pan Peninsula, and it's already been completed.

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Cross Harbour - 150m
That's the old design. Here's the most recent one:

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Old April 21st, 2011, 01:28 AM   #8
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Also missing The Pride, 209m.
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 10:57 AM   #9
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there is already a Greenwich Peninsula thread here Rational Plan:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632984
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Old April 25th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #10
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there has been a massive amount of development along the canal side between Limehouse and the Roman Road (about 2 miles) - it was hard to believe you are in the middle of a city in many parts.
a lot of photographs below (about 20) showing the main developments.....
















































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Old April 26th, 2011, 01:49 AM   #11
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^ They look lovely! I'm going to search to see if they have any affordable studio rentals...
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the area in chests' photos is changing so quickly. i made a thread about it a couple of years back and so much has changed!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...928&highlight=
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Old April 26th, 2011, 02:03 PM   #13
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I never knew how diverse architecture was in some parts of the east end!
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Old July 31st, 2011, 11:11 PM   #14
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45 Millharbour

I know an image has been posted but I rooted around and found a couple more.









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Some more pics for the Dollar Bay scheme on Millwall Dock















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Old March 24th, 2012, 02:13 AM   #16
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A quick tour of the Isle of Dogs.


Near Mudchute



Baltimore Wharf













Millwall Dock









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Sites cleared awaiting for the market to turn,







1st generation of Docklands development. Back in the early Eighties when regeneration 1st started this is what they expected Docklands to be. Just another city fringe area.





















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I'm always surprised, for somewhere so dense, there are so few people. I guess like a lot of London, more residential units are required.
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It's a pity Canary Wharf didn't encompass the whole of the Isle of Dogs, they would of done a far better job with the place.
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I'm always surprised, for somewhere so dense, there are so few people. I guess like a lot of London, more residential units are required.
It's not so much that because as these photos show, there is a lot of dense residential. It's more that people in this country tend not to linger in the streets. They go from A to B. The only people who tend to congregate outside are teenagers or people outside bars and pubs. For most adults, there is definitely a sense that if you go out at night, you have to go to a pub, restaurant or club, you can't just hang out in the street - even on warm nights. it's a shame really.
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Old March 25th, 2012, 03:51 AM   #20
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It's not so much that because as these photos show, there is a lot of dense residential. It's more that people in this country tend not to linger in the streets. They go from A to B. The only people who tend to congregate outside are teenagers or people outside bars and pubs. For most adults, there is definitely a sense that if you go out at night, you have to go to a pub, restaurant or club, you can't just hang out in the street - even on warm nights. it's a shame really.
Actually this area feels a lot busier than it used to.

Pepper street from Crossharbour westwards over Millwall dock is quite busy.
And so is Millharbour Northwards to Marsh Wall.

But it is an area still in transition. Not all of the apartments are full yet. There are plenty of sites still to be built on. Once the seconds phases of Lantern court are built and the other Milharbour sites then the empty retail units will start to fill in. But even once fully built out there will little reason to linger.

If it remains residential with local retail and restaurants, then the streets will remain quiet. With Canary wharf dominating, I can't see a proper high street developing.
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