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Old June 11th, 2012, 11:38 AM   #121
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Great stuff wonderful set of photographs, your post makes me happy i am so surprised after visit your post. There are some mind blowing photos collection.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:37 PM   #122
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True. Territories didn't have the same meaning than they have nowadays, so I guess it was "normal" at that time.

The roman empire was also an empire that relied on its civilization, so you also have a lot of romanized people or people who are romano-africans like St Augustine for example.

But in Algeria, the fact that the roman empire relied on soldiers from various countries brought also in the country cultures from parts of Europe that didn't occupied the lands, like the Celts. We still have celtic monuments in some regions and celtic weapons.
It is truly fascinating to see how things have evolved! One can only wonder what another millenium may bring!!
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:24 PM   #123
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Great stuff wonderful set of photographs, your post makes me happy i am so surprised after visit your post. There are some mind blowing photos collection.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:25 PM   #124
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It is truly fascinating to see how things have evolved! One can only wonder what another millenium may bring!!
True, but it's also scary
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:33 PM   #125
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Tiddis | Castellum Tidditanorum | Constantine

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Madauros | Ancient city of M'daourouch l SOUK AHRAS

The city where St Augustine was born, and where Apuleius studied.









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Old June 28th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #132
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It is amazing to think just how much that land has changed. From its buildings to its occupants, history can do extraordinary things.
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Actually, only a minority was of full roman origin. The majority was romanized or mixed. The cultural aspect was important, even religion incorporated aspects of the roman pantheon (like Venus, Bacchus) with other autochtone religious figures.

There were several revolts against the power of Rome, from Jugurtha (of Numidia in the East), to Tacfarinas (from Getulia, in the South) and Ptolemy (of Mauretania Cesarean, in the West, who was killed by Caligula).


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Actually, only a minority was of full roman origin. The majority was romanized or mixed. The cultural aspect was important, even religion incorporated aspects of the roman pantheon (like Venus, Bacchus) with other autochtone religious figures.

There were several revolts against the power of Rome, from Jugurtha (of Numidia in the East), to Tacfarinas (from Getulia, in the South) and Ptolemy (of Mauretania Cesarean, in the West, who was killed by Caligula).

Well that Roman minority sure left a lot!
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Well that Roman minority sure left a lot!
The roman empire wouldn't have been that big if it only relied on that minority. They needed soldiers, mercants, a common culture (through education),...That's probably why it succeeded.

Ptolemy of Mauretania was killed by Caligula because he represented a threat for his power in Rome, he wasn't full roman. He was the son of a Numidian, Juba II of Mauretania and the daughter of Cleopatra, Cleopatra Selene II.

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What a fascinating thread. As I'm sure has been noted, they used to call the Mediterranean a "Roman lake" (meaning they controlled all sides).

It makes me wonder how countries like Algeria and Tunisia would have developed had they remained in the European sphere of influence. Much like southern Spain or Italy I imagine.
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What a fascinating thread. As I'm sure has been noted, they used to call the Mediterranean a "Roman lake" (meaning they controlled all sides).

It makes me wonder how countries like Algeria and Tunisia would have developed had they remained in the European sphere of influence. Much like southern Spain or Italy I imagine.
I honestly don't know how it would have been, but Algeria (and the Maghreb in general) being a mediterranean country, the ties didn't stop there.

We have for example a mosque in Algiers that has been built and named after a Venician, Ali Betchin (Piccini) during the Ottoman era; the city of Jijel (an important port at that time) had economic agreements with the cities of Venezia, Pisa, Sicilia and Genova...The ties with Spain are more due to the Andalusian period and the refugees from Spain that came in the Maghreb.

That's History, dynasties and empires rise and fall, countries change.

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