The SELECT thread...

[thebhoypc]

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CHEERS

[Sid]

Notification arrived today.
27th floor.
SPP
Goodwill: AED5.5K

[RedWayne28thfloor]

Originally Posted by Rider

How can Select be removed if most owners are on LPP and are effectively being asked to sign away their voting rights for the next 9 years?

Also, are the service charges based on the sq feet as documented in the SPA or have they measured all the apartments on completion? The reason I ask is because I believe there is an issue with some of the 3 beds and it may be worth verifying the actual size of the apartments.

I guess the only thing you can do is look to re-mortgage once the building is complete. Still not so easy but probably the only option

[Joannides]

i noticed in the statement of account they sent through that theyre trying to charge me a second time for the registation / oqood fees again despite me paying it when they first demanded it a couple of years ago.

has this happened to anyone else? also, can anyone remember approximately when we were asked to pay the land registration fee?

thanks

[CAJ]

Originally Posted by Joannides

i noticed in the statement of account they sent through that theyre trying to charge me a second time for the registation / oqood fees again despite me paying it when they first demanded it a couple of years ago.

has this happened to anyone else? also, can anyone remember approximately when we were asked to pay the land registration fee?

thanks

Nov 08 but just paid the 1% fee not the OGOOD fee

[Rider]

They should have sent you a receipt in the post once you made the payment. I can't quite remember which month but pretty sure it was late 2008 or 2009.

[Joannides]

many thanks all.

never recieved a receipt, although tranferred via moneycorp, so will get proof from them. thanks again

[mackie1964]

Many thanks Steve for posting. I have not received anything.

As far as I am concern, my position is clear, I have a contract in place that accommodate for the LLP payments and will not sign anything else. If they refuse to hand me the apartment, I will be calling the police and gain an entry to my unit

This will be for our own use so I am not in a hurry!

With regard to the service charges, I am astonished at the cost estimated comparing with what I am paying elsewhere in the Marina. Allover the world, maintaining supertalls / sqft is much cheaper than maintaining 30/40 floors to the same standards by nearly 30 to 40%.

Let the games begin

[Dubai_Steve]

Originally Posted by Joannides

i noticed in the statement of account they sent through that theyre trying to charge me a second time for the registation / oqood fees again despite me paying it when they first demanded it a couple of years ago.

has this happened to anyone else? also, can anyone remember approximately when we were asked to pay the land registration fee?

thanks

Probably you paid only the 1% law 13 fee and not the 3000 oqood admin fee. Check your money transfer receipt/request form.

[Joannides]

Originally Posted by Dubai_Steve

Probably you paid only the 1% law 13 fee and not the 3000 oqood admin fee. Check your money transfer receipt/request form.

just checked mith moneycorp, and that indeed is the case (1% but not oqood fee)

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Dubai_Steve

Great! now the car park will stink of stale urine.

Taking the piss seems to be par for the course

[Dubai_Steve]

Originally Posted by mackie1964

With regard to the service charges, I am astonished at the cost estimated comparing with what I am paying elsewhere in the Marina. Allover the world, maintaining supertalls / sqft is much cheaper than maintaining 30/40 floors to the same standards by nearly 30 to 40%.

Let the games begin

Something I don't understand.

The maintenance charges are set at 15.2 and the chiller charges at 5 making a total of 20.2 per sq ft. However, in the Select tenancy agreement for LPP buyers it states:

The Tenant will pay all charges for electricity, water, fuel, gas, sewerage, chilled water and other utilities consumed in the Property, and all charges for telephone communications or other services connected to the Property. The Tenant will pay all Municipality or other taxes, duties, charges and ssessments levied on the Property during the Tenancy Period.

Doe this mean that chiller charges are paid by the tenant, in which case the maintenance charges are effectively only 15.2? However, the chiller charges need to be paid in full before handover. Does this mean the tenant will be paying the charge as well as the owner?

Am I missing something here?

[Caoi1971]

Notification came today email email. 66th Floor. Goodwill ~8kAED

[foxy]

On SPP and havn't received an email or a letter!!

Paid 1% registration on 7/10/2008.

Looks like the goodwill gesture is less than 1%.

Regarding the maintenance charge.. are they not supposed to be RERA aproved?

ps where Is TB?? not like him to be so quiet.

[Anjam]

Originally Posted by Joannides

i noticed in the statement of account they sent through that theyre trying to charge me a second time for the registation / oqood fees again despite me paying it when they first demanded it a couple of years ago.

has this happened to anyone else? also, can anyone remember approximately when we were asked to pay the land registration fee?

thanks

I was under similar impression, think I paid OQOOD along with the 1%. Will check when I get home. I have received the registration title from the Land Department which made me think I may have paid the fees. It's unlike Select to send anything unless it is paid for!

[Anjam]

Any pics of the emerging spire and reducing scaffolding ?

[Sid]

Originally Posted by foxy

On SPP and havn't received an email or a letter!!

Paid 1% registration on 7/10/2008.

Looks like the goodwill gesture is less than 1%.

Regarding the maintenance charge.. are they not supposed to be RERA aproved?

ps where Is TB?? not like him to be so quiet.

TB is fresh out of negative comments. He'll be back soon...

[Dubai_Steve]

Originally Posted by Anjam

I was under similar impression, think I paid OQOOD along with the 1%. Will check when I get home. I have received the registration title from the Land Department which made me think I may have paid the fees. It's unlike Select to send anything unless it is paid for!

It seems that we only paid the 1% fee and not an admin fee but according to the part of the email below from Select Property (UK) in Nov 2008, this should have been registered for us for those who paid early? So I am not sure that we should have to pay the 3000 feee now!

You are requested to please arrange to pay your 1% proportion of the registration fee now to enable us to complete registration in your favour as soon as possible. Buyers are not required to visit the Land Department in person for registration of the sales. We will be given access to a Land Department system to register all sales in accordance with our records.

[Rider]

Cayan sent me details of an apartment available at Silverene a couple of months ago (similar cost to my 2 bed at Torch) and the price breakdown shows OQOOD pre-registration fee AED 5,000 so perhaps this is the norm.

[FWIW]

Originally Posted by mackie1964

Many thanks Steve for posting. I have not received anything.

As far as I am concern, my position is clear, I have a contract in place that accommodate for the LLP payments and will not sign anything else. If they refuse to hand me the apartment, I will be calling the police and gain an entry to my unit

This will be for our own use so I am not in a hurry!

With regard to the service charges, I am astonished at the cost estimated comparing with what I am paying elsewhere in the Marina. Allover the world, maintaining supertalls / sqft is much cheaper than maintaining 30/40 floors to the same standards by nearly 30 to 40%.

Let the games begin

Well said Mackie!

I think if you have these words in your SPA then you should be protected to some degree!

"No variation of this Agreement shall be valid unless it is in writing and signed by each of the Parties or their authorised representatives"

If people sign the SVA, then they agree with the whole SVA.

Reading the SVA, it seems like they are threatening that no signature on SVA, then handover process cannot continue. That is a load of tosh in my book.