Science and technology in Iran

[ardeshir8]

12 new military equipments displayed and inaugurated in Esfahan

12 military electronic and electro-optical systems were unveiled by the Iranian defense minister Ahmad Vahidi on Thursday 19 May .The projects include multi-purpose monitors for fighter jets and helicopters s, mobile mapping systems for fighter jets, smart long-range electro-optical systems and shoulder-launched anti-aircraft weapons.

http://www.lenziran.com/2011/05/19/1...d-inaugurated/

[QWECXZ]

Iran has unveiled a super-modern surgical system which it says mergers most updated hardware and software technologies in the field of medicine.


President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad unveiled the smart surgical navigation system produced by Iranian experts in a ceremony in Tehran's Imam Khomeini hospital on Thursday, IRNA reported.

The system in question could be applied for surgical operations on the ears, the pharynx, the nose as well as the brain and the nervous system.

The device makes use of modern medical technologies together with advanced display and data analysis techniques on images obtained through traditional methods, such as X-ray computed tomography (CT) or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), to facilitate diagnosis and treatment processes through a precise detection technology.

The system provides surgeons with a detailed environment by enabling them to observe microscopic and endoscopic images on the screen.

The device assists surgery teams to compare the previous and present states of patients in a meticulous yet convenient way.

It also enables surgeons to simulate the surgery process in advance of the actual operation, analyze its possible consequences and adopt a different approach if required.

During the Thursday ceremony, Ahmadinejad praised the new system as a highly significant move and a major progress in the field of medical science and technology.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/183938.html

[wordok]

Came here by mistake after reading these topics on English Wikipedia:
List of top international rankings by country
and
International rankings of Iran.

I read the comments here and had to laugh hard at some here who have said that the pace of Iran's development in science and technology will get faster if Iranian people waste their regime in the country. Well for the information of these myopic people I have to say, Iran is having the world's fastest growth rate in science and technology because of the regime in place there. This same regime has been investing in Iranian science and technology without which the out comes for Iran would have been any more different than Saudi Arabia. Modern science and technology are a new thing in Iran as compared to other countries. Europe started this centuries ago. Shah after Shah in Iran ignored science. Iran never had such growth and capabilities during the time of last Shah. The number of articles published during the years of Shah were just 100 papers per year and that with no growth. During times of Reza Shah things were even more pathetic. And during the Qajars even worse than that. While Darwin/ Newton and others were publishing articles Iranian Shah were busy drinking and having fun with the women. That is the truth. Shah loved to vacation in Europe and mingle with high society.
I have a question here. Why Iran never experienced such growth in science during the last 400 years except when mullahs regime came to power? The same kind of people used to live in Iran with same IQ's. I tell you why. Because none of those rulers had the guts to put pressure on Iranian society to do stuff on its own instead of hiring foreign advisors who had complete immunity from Iranian laws. None of the Iranian rulers with exception of mullahs had the vision to invest in Iranian science and Iranian technologies. I say give credit where it is due. Say the truth. Mullahs might have made mistakes but where they have done good, the credit must be given. And the truth is that Iran without mullahs in power could have become a holiday destination with nude beaches and night clubs but never a science and technology hub which it is becoming today. Just see the stats from before revolution and compare them with now. It is amazing. Iran is doubling its science and technology output every three years. That surely needs alot of planning and management. I suspect Iran is hiding its true spending on science projects since such fast growths can not come at a great cost of tens of billions of dollars. Maybe they are hiding it because they do not want to get sanctioned or maybe they do not want to pizz off Iranian public. But whatever the reason this is certainly the case. Some where I had read that the official budget of Iranian space agency is less than 100 million dollars but the real amount spent on it is more than 3.5 billion per year. The same is the case with biotechnology and other sciences.
I say good luck to Iranians and their ambitions, and hopefully Iran will find its right and deserving place among the giants very soon specially with such a mind boggling growth. In fact a Canadian report had pointed out that if Iran was able to keep such a growth level it will reach Canadian science and technology output by year 2017. That is just six years from now. Not that long specially if compare it with very very long history of Iran. I also understand fully why alot of countries with established science and technology are so afraid of a new competitor on world stage. Specially that this competitor happens to be the same one that used to bash and beat father of western culture (Greece) a few thousand years ago. The enmity is still very alive as can be see by production of movie 300 ( nice movie by the way). For all this Iranians have got their mullahs to thank. The mullahs who have trusted the Iranian capability after so long. The last time Iran had such leaders were during the times of Nader Shah and Cyrus.
And by the way if Iranians get their regime change and the new regime even by stretch of imagination after a period of chaos and civil war which is bound to happen, were to improve the growth of science and technology still Iran will remain the first in growth just like it today. Since there is no higher place than first to occupy. See the irony. Be grateful for what you have or else you will lose it.

[FreddyB]

thanks for the compliments and thanks for trying to give some advices.i wouldnt say which part of what u said i agree with and with which part i dont.all I say is,your info is not complete about Iran mullas and tech and etc.it cannot be complete unless u live in Iran.so discussing on such case is pointless.thanks again for ur intrest in iran's science

[wordok]

Originally Posted by FreddyB

thanks for the compliments and thanks for trying to give some advices.i wouldnt say which part of what u said i agree with and with which part i dont.all I say is,your info is not complete about Iran mullas and tech and etc.it cannot be complete unless u live in Iran.so discussing on such case is pointless.thanks again for ur intrest in iran's science

Hello,
My point here was to be judicious and accept logic. I tried to logically explain the situation here the best I can. And I think it stands solid. I think you reference to my living in Iran had to do more with emotional appeal than with logic here. But by the way I have visited Iran and it is nothing like on TV. The place is thriving and modern though traditions stand strong still. People have got a certain degree of freedom and as long as they are not working to bring down the regime they can do what ever they want. Not much different in other countries. Consider the fact that if some one tries to bring down US government ( regime) Wacco will happen and even children are massacred. ETA in Spain is another point. We have to be relative here. All I am saying is that Iranians should not trade off what they already have for a rosy dream being fed to them. It is their decision but any mistake and all they are gaining will be history.
And thank you for your kind reply.

[FreddyB]

why?I didn't say that I agree or don't agree.how come you thought I'm talking emotional w.o even hearing my opinion?isn't that judging emotional??

Originally Posted by wordok

My point here was to be judicious and accept logic. I tried to logically explain the situation here the best I can.

and I thanked you for it.nothing more my friend

[wordok]

Originally Posted by FreddyB

not always but i got what u meant
making means making.montage is montage
Tractor making's casting part "makes" some parts and sends them to Germany for the car companies

I guess montage is French for Assembly here. Yeah that is right Iran assembles Some Benz models. But they also manufactures parts for E and C class series which basically were meant for export to Germany under a outsourcing program which was to bring down costs for parts manufacturing specially engines. As you would know parts manufacturing is much more labor intensive than assembly which can be done by robots. The Iran assembled Benz vehicles were meant for Iran while the parts were meant for German market.
I have an interesting story about this. When this deal was being negotiated Iranian government wanted to have the majority share in joint venture but Germans opted out. That forced Iranians to settle at 50-50 partnership with Germany. It was working fine till, late last year when US pressures and sanctions forced Mercedes Benz to pull out of Iran completely. Since Germany pulled out unilaterally, all their shares went to Iranian partner. Now Iranian partner can not export the engines and parts but they literally have got all Iranian market to themselves.

[FreddyB]

tnx
damn,I thought montage is used in English too..

[wordok]

Originally Posted by FreddyB

why?I didn't say that I agree or don't agree.how come you thought I'm talking emotional w.o even hearing my opinion?isn't that judging emotional??



and I thanked you for it.nothing more my friend

And I thanked you in return pal. I did not say you were emotional. I said saying I have not been to Iran so I can not understand is an emotional. You can be perfectly logical ofcourse. Anyways. I guess I am not very welcome here. So...

[FreddyB]

ah don't be like that.ofc u r welcome
Iranians love guests :P

[wordok]

Originally Posted by FreddyB

tnx
damn,I thought montage is used in English too..

There are alot of French words in English but this one is not as persay in use much. Though Iranians love French and German words. One wonders why and some one told me it was because a century ago, Iranians were at odds with British and the people hated England and English so they used to go to France and Germany for further studies and learn those languages and this is how lots of French and German words became part of Persian language.

[FreddyB]

I don't think it was about hate.a century ago(or more) Iran's prime minister(aka Amir Kabir) which made a school/university named darolfonun,brought university professors from France.therefor alot of the industrial and scientific words we use in Iran r french

[SoroushPersepolisi]

lol chill guys

yes iran's growth has been significant after the revolution because the people stood up by themselves, the mullahs themselves didnt want science either

there was growth under the past 200 years , but not as much. instead there was a lot of literature music etc

but again befor that 500-1000 years ago iran dominated in science , the "golden age" which helped ignite the growth in europe (renaissance)

[SoroushPersepolisi]

most european words in persian come from from french since their pronounciation is easier for us

[wordok]

Originally Posted by FreddyB

ah don't be like that.ofc u r welcome
Iranians love guests :P

Thanks for clarification. Yeah most Iranians love guests, I have already experienced that but there are some too who are to say politely not that gentle. For example there is this lady who was visiting Iran and was from Europe who was saying on her visit to Iran, men used to grope her in public. But as I said most Iranians are gentle.
I noticed that you might be from Tabriz. And as I am in medical profession wanted to say that Iran's first heart transplant surgery had been done in a Tabriz hospital. Now that is something, dont you think so?

[FreddyB]

Whoaw.that should be added to Tabriz's "1sts" list.there is a loong list of 1st stuff done in Tabriz(which some refer to Tabriz as the city of Firsts).it was a good something haha

[wordok]

Originally Posted by FreddyB

Whoaw.that should be added to Tabriz's "1sts" list.there is a loong list of 1st stuff done in Tabriz(which some refer to Tabriz as the city of Firsts).it was a good something haha

Oh, I did not know that. The city of firsts. Yeah I guess it was in 1995 the first heart transplant in Iran. The liver transplant I guess was done in Esphehan and kidney in Tehran. Could you please provide a link to firsts of Tabriz?

[wordok]

Originally Posted by SoroushPersepolisi

lol chill guys

yes iran's growth has been significant after the revolution because the people stood up by themselves, the mullahs themselves didnt want science either

there was growth under the past 200 years , but not as much. instead there was a lot of literature music etc

but again befor that 500-1000 years ago iran dominated in science , the "golden age" which helped ignite the growth in europe (renaissance)

I beg to differ here. I think if mullahs would not have wanted science they could have easily not invested in Iran's education and science developing programs. After all they are being portrayed as blood sucking monster dictators and as such they could have opted not to have any science program. All facts indicate the reality is otherwise.

[TEHR_IR]

Originally Posted by wordok

The place is thriving and modern though traditions stand strong still. People have got a certain degree of freedom and as long as they are not working to bring down the regime they can do what ever they want.

I don't want to go off topic, but if you think Iranians have certain freedom and we can do whatever we want...you're wrong than, people are affraid, they can't dress how they like, no freedom of speech, people get killed by this regime, tortued, raped, this is not what I call modern, and about the Shah back than, Iran was a developing country at that time, you can't compare the 70's to the 21st century. and sorry to the mods, I will not go in further discussion.

[wordok]

Originally Posted by TEHR_IR

I don't want to go off topic, but if you think Iranians have certain freedom and we can do whatever we want...you're wrong than, people are affraid, they can't dress how they like, no freedom of speech, people get killed by this regime, tortued, raped, this is not what I call modern, and about the Shah bac than, Iran was a developing country at that time, you can't compare the 70's to the 21st century. and sorry to the mods, I will not go in further discussion.

As I said Iran had those those freedoms during the Shah time but it did not have science and technology. I agree women might not be able to wear mini-skirts in public now. Freedom of speech is relative. Even in US or EU there are taboo issues which might land you in prison if you talk about it in public. But US is still a modern country nonetheless. Actually in 1970's all technologies that are around today were present. Supercomputers had been invented but Iran had none. US had gone to moon and back but Iran still did not even have a space program. Internal combustion engines had been invented as well as most of laws of physics were known. So it is very comparable I might say. As for freedom let me give you some links here about the limit of freedom in US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings