PROJECT: Port Adelaide Waterfront Redevelopment

[Will]

Check out the Urban Construct website, they have a nice looking picture of what Port Adelaide will look like in the year 2011(?). There are a few high-rises and the whole Port looks rejuvinated and modern. It is a great vision!

[jarf]

New townhouses on the eastern side of the river are looking good, from observation today. Excavation is happening right next to Ethelton station. Can't wait to see it when it's finished.

[SA BOY]

guys, i wonder if any of you could help. My wife is from adelaide and she wants us to invest in some appartments there. we currently have propery in South Africa,Dubai and London and are looking at good waterfront, investment property that is "under valued" ie not melbourne or gold cost etc but is just starting.
we looked when we were there last in jan last year and there was nothing happening in the port but it seems full steam ahead.
do you have contact details of the developer(s) as im sure there are more than urban and do you have any tips, goss or insider info on this project?
Ta

[how_good_is_he]

Look at www.infinitywaters.com.au - new waterfront development at West Lakes

[AtD]

Efficient Market Hypothesis states there is no such thing as an 'undervalued' or 'overvalued' property. Rant rant rant...

Economists suck the fun out of everything.

[Howie]

Al's got some lovely renders of the new shopping mall down the port.. hopefully he'll be able to post it sometime soon.

[SA BOY]

thanks, looked at infinity and its Ok but not quite what we are after.
We lived in jacksons Landing in Sydney (I know adelaide is nothing like Sydney)but that feel of semi hirise (12F) with direct waterfront access, self contained complex, well designed, good line of sight, you know all the usual fluff.
I know the port is only just getting going and there is limited info but any idea of leads I can follow( company names , URLs)
Cheers

[Will]

Originally Posted by SA BOY

thanks, looked at infinity and its Ok but not quite what we are after.
We lived in jacksons Landing in Sydney (I know adelaide is nothing like Sydney)but that feel of semi hirise (12F) with direct waterfront access, self contained complex, well designed, good line of sight, you know all the usual fluff.
I know the port is only just getting going and there is limited info but any idea of leads I can follow( company names , URLs)
Cheers

www.urbanconstruct.com.au

[aussie2000]

Originally Posted by Howie

Al's got some lovely renders of the new shopping mall down the port.. hopefully he'll be able to post it sometime soon.

Can you please post them, al, i posted my pics of santos underconstruction http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=320307

[chang4]

Originally Posted by SA BOY

guys, i wonder if any of you could help. My wife is from adelaide and she wants us to invest in some appartments there. we currently have propery in South Africa,Dubai and London and are looking at good waterfront, investment property that is "under valued" ie not melbourne or gold cost etc but is just starting.
we looked when we were there last in jan last year and there was nothing happening in the port but it seems full steam ahead.
do you have contact details of the developer(s) as im sure there are more than urban and do you have any tips, goss or insider info on this project?
Ta

My personal opinion is that the Port Adelaide development may well be a very
good investment. A lot will depend on the final designs.

The Port is especially good because it has such a strong national identity
and an interesting historical background. The Port itself brings a vibrant aspect
to the area too - especially with some major infastructure works unway nearby.

It's worth looking up Port Power football team on the web for some insight
into the identity that Port Adelaide projects nationally thru AFL football, if you are
not familiar with it already.


The Port area has very gradually been coming together over the last 5 years
and properties are more tightly held than a few years ago. I know people who
own property in the area now, and also those who have bought in the past
and sold out because things were going slow in P.A. even in boom times for
property. But probably only in the last 18 months have things gained a
critical mass in the area.

They're probably going to be selling apartments off the plan - and I definitely
recommend buying as high as possible in the 12 st towers on the Birkenhead
side. This would give not only waterfront access but either views of
Birkenhead Bridge or Semaphore Beach. It would be walking distance to
Glanville Railway station and importantly its very close to Semaphore
Road which is likely to be transormed once the development is well
underway.

2006/7 will be a much better time to invest than 2002/3. And with
the Aussie dollar down sub $US 0.75 it's probably a decent time in
that respect also.

Mind you after Australia thrash S.A. in the cricket test series you mightn't
feel to good about aussies for a while.


BTW: anyone have any updates on the Central Buildings ... ? I haven't
been to Adelaide since last year - but when I last looked they were
working on the interior with some modest changes to the outside.
Also - the Goldern Port Tavern and The British had for sale signs up
but haven't got any recent news on what's happening with them at
the moment. cheers.

[Howie]

Originally Posted by aussie2000

Can you please post them, al, i posted my pics of santos underconstruction http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=320307

You can be assured he'll post them as soon as he's allowed to. He hardly frequents SS forums these days, so i'll make a posting on here if he decides to put it up at SA forums.

[SA BOY]

Originally Posted by chang4

My personal opinion is that the Port Adelaide development may well be a very
good investment. A lot will depend on the final designs.

The Port is especially good because it has such a strong national identity
and an interesting historical background. The Port itself brings a vibrant aspect
to the area too - especially with some major infastructure works unway nearby.

It's worth looking up Port Power football team on the web for some insight
into the identity that Port Adelaide projects nationally thru AFL football, if you are
not familiar with it already.


The Port area has very gradually been coming together over the last 5 years
and properties are more tightly held than a few years ago. I know people who
own property in the area now, and also those who have bought in the past
and sold out because things were going slow in P.A. even in boom times for
property. But probably only in the last 18 months have things gained a
critical mass in the area.

They're probably going to be selling apartments off the plan - and I definitely
recommend buying as high as possible in the 12 st towers on the Birkenhead
side. This would give not only waterfront access but either views of
Birkenhead Bridge or Semaphore Beach. It would be walking distance to
Glanville Railway station and importantly its very close to Semaphore
Road which is likely to be transormed once the development is well
underway.

2006/7 will be a much better time to invest than 2002/3. And with
the Aussie dollar down sub $US 0.75 it's probably a decent time in
that respect also.

Mind you after Australia thrash S.A. in the cricket test series you mightn't
feel to good about aussies for a while.


BTW: anyone have any updates on the Central Buildings ... ? I haven't
been to Adelaide since last year - but when I last looked they were
working on the interior with some modest changes to the outside.
Also - the Goldern Port Tavern and The British had for sale signs up
but haven't got any recent news on what's happening with them at
the moment. cheers.

Thanks mate for the info, I know port well as in order to piss the in laws in Adelaide off who support the crows, I went for the cross city rivals.
Cricket was a downer but last nights 20/20 victory over Oz was worth watching.
As for the area what is known about the big stuff, (12F ) towers as it might we worth waiting to get the right ones, these little 2/3F waste of oppotunity developments are tame and seems a bit 2nd rate. Might be worth the developers actually going to Sydney and GC to look at well designed waterside property instead of this scrappy looking stuff. I know its the first out the blocks but its a bit disapointing to see compared to what we had in Sydney

[chang4]

Yep - it looks like the S Africans might give us a fight in the
cricket on their home turf.

I agree - the P.A. development needs some highrise - and could
go higher than 12 stories. Suburban Sydney has a lot of great
residential highrise that doesn't look out of place. At least I think
the 12 st towers in the Port are going to be in the best locations.

Personally the best designs I've seen for highrise residential have
been in Singapore and HK. They really understand that quality
design and quality materials make an investment worthwhile over
the long term. Not everybody wants to resell within 10 years
and an excellent design + quality workmanship means a building
works over the long term. I just really hope the development in
Port Adelaide runs with that kind of philosophy.

Oh - I had a look at Fremantle in 2003 and they seem to have some
really nice quality 10 FL residential buildings with ocean views that
don't detract at all from the historical area. I lived for a time in Claremont
which has some ok highrise around the lake shore as well, that was
a while back tho. Canberra where I live now has some highrise at
the Kingston Shore development which looks nice but may be over-priced.

[crawf]

bump - any updates

[crawf]

I found these wicked renders from the newport quays site



Port Approach


I can see a few hi-rises in the first render

[Mants]

according to the people at the newport quays head office they arent renders. they are merely artist impressions of what the development may look like. the only set renderings and floorplans are of the Edgewater development which is currently u/c. plans havnt been made for the other stages yet.

[crawf]

ok my mistake - artist impressions

but it still looks bloody brilliant imo

I believe the PA redevelopment and many other developments will help Adelaide get rid of its boring hole tag and become more of a exciting and interesting place

btw regardless what anyone says the future is looking very bright for Adelaide and SA
"BUT we need to control this dickhead anti-progess people, or this state will go nowhere"

[Roar/]

Originally Posted by crawf_231

"BUT we need to control this dickhead anti-progess people, or this state will go nowhere"

Control? Lol, they arn't animals... Animals have brains.

[Giorgio]

So do these people.
They just have differing opinions.

[Loopy70]

since you're going of topic:

my opinion for this hour:

i dont think it's the 'anti progress people' holding the state back. They're a constant that exist everywhere. So dont be concerned with those people.

The reality is, Australia is a nation of only 20 million people, and there's only so much wealth and people to go around, and right now thats focussed on the prime locations on the continent.

At the end of the day it comes down to the wealth and attractiveness of the location for development to happen. Adelaide and SA needs to find ways to generate wealth and increase its attractiveness. The sky is the limit as to how this is done.