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Felis Necropolitan
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Turkey to build new waterway to bypass crowded Bosporus
Turkish PM: Turkey to build new waterway to bypass crowded Bosporus, improve life in Istanbul
By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, April 27, 6:04 PM ANKARA, Turkey — Turkey’s prime minister on Wednesday announced what he called a “crazy and magnificent” plan to build a new waterway to the Black Sea, promising that the tanker-clogged Bosporus through Istanbul would soon be used for sports and boat trips. The waterway, to be named “Canal Istanbul,” would link the Black Sea to the Sea of Marmara, which leads to the Aegean Sea. It would be between 28 and 31 miles (40 and 45 kilometers) long, some 82 feet (25 meters) deep and around 500 feet (150 meters) wide, Recep Tayyip Erdogan said during campaigning ahead of elections on June 12. “We have today embarked on the greatest project of the century,” Erdogan said, adding that it would be a bigger undertaking than the Panama or Suez canals. The new waterway would be located on the European side of the Bosporus, he said, but would not disclose its exact location or the cost of the gargantuan project. It would be completed by 2023, when Turkey will be celebrating the centenary of the founding of the Turkish republic after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. “Turkey more than deserves to enter 2023 with such a crazy and magnificent project,” he said to a cheering audience in the city. “Istanbul will become a city with two seas passing through it.” Erdogan, who is hoping to win a third term in office in June, has promised to announce what he called a “crazy project” for Istanbul since campaigning began earlier this month, keeping Turks guessing for weeks. Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leader of the Republican People’s Party, brushed off the project, saying construction contracts would only enrich people close to Erdogan’s ruling party. “They have projects that say ‘How can I make my supporters richer?’,” the Anatolia news agency quoted him as saying. “This nation does not need crazy people, but people who think.” Town planners speculated the canal would be built west of the town of Silivri in Turkey’s Thrace region, since areas closer to Istanbul are heavily populated. The government has already announced plans to build a new airport near Silivri. Erdogan said hazardous materials from tankers pose a threat to Istanbul, a city of more than 13 million, but the project is likely to draw outrage from environmentalists and spur debate about the ecosytem. “It is difficult to assess the outcome when one intervenes in a natural system in such an artificial way,” said Cemal Saydam, a professor of environmental engineering. The 19-mile (30-kilometer) long Bosporus strait that bisects Istanbul is, in conjunction with the Dardanelles, the sole passage between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea and is heavily congested with tanker traffic to and from Bulgaria, Romania, Georgia, Ukraine and southern Russia. It has been the scene of ship accidents in the past and environmentalists warn a major disaster is waiting to happen. “Bosporus’ traffic will be reduced to zero,” Erdogan said. “Water sports will take place on the Bosporus, transport within the city will be established, (Istanbul) will return to its former days.” Past accidents have closed the Bosporus for days, including a 1994 collision of an oil tanker and a cargo ship that killed 29 sailors. In December 1999, a Russian-made tanker split in two at the mouth of the strait, spilling 235,000 gallons of fuel and blackening 6 miles of coastline. Erdogan said ships carry 139 million tons of oil, 4 million tons of liquefied petroleum gas and 3 million tons of chemicals through the Bosporus annually, threatening nearly 2 million people living and working on the banks of the waterway. Erdogan said feasibility studies would take two years to complete. He said he would keep the location of the project a secret, apparently to avoid possible land speculation in the area. Excavated soil would be used in the construction of the port and the airport as well as burying some defunct mines in the region. Kadir Topbas, the mayor of Istanbul and a member of Erdogan’s party, welcomed the project, saying the new canal would eliminate the risk posed by heavy tanker traffic to Istanbul and the environment. ___ Associated Press writers Selcan Hacaoglu contributed to this report. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...prss=rss_world |
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Any map of the possible route?
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This is HUUUGE project! Bravo for Turkey if it manages to pull it off! It'll be a difficult and costly task!
![]() Hopefully, through this canal Turkey will allow LNG tankers to pass into the Black Sea.
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![]() Here's a more detailed map If built, mearchant ships would be diverted to the canal, as the Bosphorous is quite a dangerous sea lane (with sharp twists and turns and very strong currents) it would be much more safer for them as well as the city, also waiting time for ships would be greatly reduced as the number of ships that can pass through the bosphorous at one time is greatly limited. |
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I think this is more elections talk rather then anything serious. I'll believe it when I see it.
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![]() actually former PM Bülent Ecevit made this suggestion back in 1994, he wasn't PM then and when he did become PM, a couple of years later, Turkey went bankrup so the project was shelved. I hate the AKP and Erdoğan but I believe that they might manage to actually pull it off. |
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Thanks a lot for the map Turknology! One question: why the curled route and not a straight one, which would reduce its length significantly? PS: I think this canal would increase trade between the Mediterranean Sea and Black Sea significantly as a result of increased traffic capacity, which is now stifled by the Bosforus capacity.
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BTW: Romania built in the 50s and 60s the Danube-Black Sea Canal, which is longer than this proposed canal (67 km): ![]() It was a huge task, but Romania benefits a lot from it. That's why I am confident Turkey can do it. |
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It's already on the shelves
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a map from http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20110430/163775677.html with some infographics on congestion in the Bosphorus Strait
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will cost ariund 50 bil USD
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![]() ![]() ...or more, because they might need to go deeper than 25 m in order to replicate the natural flow patterns between the Black Sea and the Marmara Sea
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It's been said that the purpose of this canal is to keep ships with dangerous goods away from the highly populated areas in and around Istanbul.
If that's the case then lining it up with highrises is defying it's purpose a bit, isn't it? Quote:
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Yes and it is also one of the main points some people are against this project.
Of course they also want to make some money by building a new city there
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Dangerously close to trolling, but don't take it as such: You do know that if this canal were built, there would be SSC-ers who would claim that the western part of Istanbul now would be in Asia...
Is it planned to be Suez size, Panama size, or something else? And what about clearing for rail, road, infrastructure bridges? |
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