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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:28 PM   #141
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Fv60 is not a national road, but a short-cut to avoid one ferry on E39, it's just 6km longer so it saves time even with the poor standard. It's currently being upgraded to 2-lanes all the way even when the long-term goal is to build a 1,5km span bridge over the fjord avoiding most of this stretch.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:54 PM   #142
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Norway seems to not care about motorists as much, they spend a tiny % of their GDP on Infra, and driving a car is quite expensive...

Yes they have nice project here and there, but overall, the infra isn't that great from what I've seen, huge traffic over narrow roads and bridges! Not to mention the snails pace speed limits on motorways! I'm under the impression it's a nation for the retired & grey haired!
Your impression of Norway is not entirely correct. While they do have only about 400 kilometers of motorway and speed limits are low, only in Norway do you find projects where they spend over € 100 million to build a bridge that handles 500 - 1000 vehicles per day. The Hardanger Bridge costs € 240 million and will handle approximately 1400 vehicles per day. There is no way you can find such investments in most other countries.

The road transportation budget increased by 40% in the last transportation plan. You have to understand Norway is about 10 times larger than the Netherlands with just 5 million people. Furthermore Norwegians have the highest income in the world, so € 2 gasoline and tolls are unimpressive to them.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 05:09 PM   #143
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I think that money would be better spent in more motorways; 400 km is nothing.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 05:15 PM   #144
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Very few roads have sufficient traffic volumes to warrant a motorway. I think Kristianstad - Oslo could be a reality, but Oslo - Bergen is really an illusion as a motorway. Maybe someday Oslo - Trondheim will be mostly 4-laned. Fact is that even the links between major cities do not have more than 2.000 - 5.000 vehicles per day outside the metropolitan areas.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 05:45 PM   #145
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I would build motorways from Oslo to Kristiansand, Trondheim, Sweden (direction Stockholm) and towards Bergen at least to Hønefoss.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 06:04 PM   #146
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I would build motorways from Oslo to Kristiansand, Trondheim, Sweden (direction Stockholm) and towards Bergen at least to Hønefoss.
You best get started then. A lot of work for one person. I'll come and drive on them when you're finished.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 06:11 PM   #147
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Old February 21st, 2013, 07:19 PM   #148
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Arizona has some pretty bad roads too
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Old February 21st, 2013, 08:55 PM   #149
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LoL. That's due to geography/climate


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Old February 21st, 2013, 09:14 PM   #150
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Arizona has some pretty bad roads too
US-89 near Page gets a bit... bumpy .
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Old February 24th, 2013, 11:31 PM   #151
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HWY 63 in the Canadian Province of Alberta. It is the deadliest highway there by far. Plans to upgrade it from a two lane highway, to a four lane, divided (non-motorway) highway have been on the books for years. However, only a small fraction has been upgraded. In the last couple of years, there has been work undertaken to actually construct substantial sections of divided highway.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 08:09 AM   #152
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Fv60 is not a national road, but a short-cut to avoid one ferry on E39, it's just 6km longer so it saves time even with the poor standard. It's currently being upgraded to 2-lanes all the way even when the long-term goal is to build a 1,5km span bridge over the fjord avoiding most of this stretch.
It was a national road before the administrative change to transfer the ownership of the most main road network to the regional organizations in the year 2010. As this is admin stuff only, it has no impact on the importance.

In addition to being an alternative route to the E39, it is a part of an important east-west corridor over Strynefjellet. That is why it is somewhat surprising to see the upgrade taking place no earlier than now.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 08:13 AM   #153
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Fact is that even the links between major cities do not have more than 2.000 - 5.000 vehicles per day outside the metropolitan areas.
But that might be a part of the chicken-and-egg phenomena. No traffic due to bad roads and no good roads due to less traffic.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 05:22 PM   #154
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Karakorum highway is probably the most dangerous in Pakistan.




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Old February 27th, 2013, 05:59 PM   #155
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Why do those cracks follow so often the painted lines? Is it because the pavemant is structurally damaged there by the vehicles load on both sides of the line and no load on the line itself?
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Old March 1st, 2013, 05:19 AM   #156
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The pavement is put on in wide strpes following roughly the future lanes. In the Photo, the 1x2 highway is divided in three tarmac strips forming the solid cover, while the softer material in the ground follows existing lines from the top while collapsing.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 01:41 AM   #157
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Anyone driven the E42 through the Belgian border past Tournai recently? Hideous, particularly after hours on the smooth French autoroutes..

Other mentions go to the N17 Piet Retief/Ermelo/Pongola road in South Africa (potholes, coal trucks), the N11 betwen Hendrina and Ermelo (coal trucks, potholes) and the N2 between Durban and East London (fog, sheep, goats, people, sharp corners)
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