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Old May 12th, 2011, 02:24 AM   #21
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Old May 12th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #22
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if you guys compare, you should compare to some city of the same size, New york for example. any photos from there?
Same size? New York has four times the population of Paris.

But why does it matter? The statement was that North American cities don't have trees. Which is absurd and ridiculous. But if someone else has nothing better to do than gather photos, they're welcome to.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 03:45 AM   #23
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Only two times.
Paris metropolitan area : 12 million
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Old May 12th, 2011, 04:05 AM   #24
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Within city limts, two million versus eight.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 04:21 AM   #25
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thanks for photos, Minato ku. Is this the exit for the new tunnel?

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Same size? New York has four times the population of Paris.

But why does it matter? The statement was that North American cities don't have trees. Which is absurd and ridiculous. But if someone else has nothing better to do than gather photos, they're welcome to.
ok, I exaggerated a bit. I didn't say that about greenery along the roads in N.America. However it would be nice to see some photos of 'comparable' city, not some Bothell, with population of 30.000
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Old May 12th, 2011, 04:25 AM   #26
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Within city limts, two million versus eight.
you're being too into details. You know that road infrastructure isn't build for population of 2 or 8 million.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:31 AM   #27
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Whatever. If you want to evaluate the entire New York metropolitan area, you need to take into account the Palisades Interstate Parkway (one of the most spectacular roads in the east, scenery-wise), the Merritt Parkway, roads along the New Jersey and Long Island oceanfront....

You can look for your own pictures.
Or we can get back to discussing the Paris area, and people from Denmark can stop making gratuitous comparisons to places they've probably never been and certainly don't know. :-P

(And at any rate, Bothell's a suburb of Seattle. Seattle was included in the same set of pictures. Seattle's bigger than Lyon.)
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Old May 12th, 2011, 08:54 AM   #28
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Don't take French statistics too literal concerning population. French cities have even more suburbs than American ones, for instance the Paris metro area has almost 12 million inhabitants, including 2 million in the city of Paris and then you have hundreds of suburbs, out of which only 2 or 3 exceed 100 000 people.
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I think this thread is unnecessary and should be merged with the existing French thread. (Unless, of course, you want to switch to a city-by-city approach instead of the existing country-by-country thread arrangement. In which case, there would be rather a lot of US threads, in particular.)
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However it would be nice to see some photos of 'comparable' city, not some Bothell, with population of 30.000
haha this Bothell is part of the 3.5 million Seattle area

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Old May 12th, 2011, 11:13 AM   #31
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I think this thread is unnecessary and should be merged with the existing French thread. (Unless, of course, you want to switch to a city-by-city approach instead of the existing country-by-country thread arrangement. In which case, there would be rather a lot of US threads, in particular.)
I agree. Don't particularly like a regional approach.
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I agree. Don't particularly like a regional approach.
Me neither, regional threads were a compromise around 2008 when Kosovo declared its independence, and was either a national or regional thread, depending on your point of view. After that, many other regional threads popped up, but almost all died out. I can merge this thread if there is great support for it.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #33
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haha this Bothell is part of the 3.5 million Seattle area
and how should I know that. next time write that in your post.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:13 PM   #34
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Within city limts, two million versus eight.
Right,but roads (and traffic, at all) don't care about city borders :-)
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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #35
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Right,but roads (and traffic, at all) don't care about city borders :-)
Already answered. But (as already said) if we're going to compare entire metropolitan areas, the proposition that the New York area has no natural beauty along its roads becomes completely absurd:

http://www.google.com/search?q=palis...w=1131&bih=684

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/572965837yyvFHV

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougton...th/5608448782/
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I don't really see the problem.. Sometimes it's interesting to get a closer look at a place without fear of "polluting" the parent thread; you can get into more detail, go slightly off-topic (but still relevant) etc. I think this is particularly true for the US thread(s): It's a huge and varied place compared to the others. I remember there being a separate California thread which I found very interesting, but it's since disappeared. The "one thread per country" is a little arbitrary; if Slovakia is big enough to have its own thread then certainly California is too?
I see two "cons" to this: the precedent makes it theoretically possible, if unlikely, that we'll suddenly end up with 22 French regional threads, 50 U.S. state threads.... or even more if it's done by city.

More importantly, if I'm browsing for information about another country's roads, it's actually helpful if there's just one thread. We might solve that problem by including the Île-de-France thread (under France) in that list of country threads, but I'm not sure that's ideal....
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I showed a picture of LA on the last page, there were a few trees there
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and how should I know that. next time write that in your post.
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Old May 14th, 2011, 10:03 PM   #39
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Although I don't really agree with regional threads on H&A I have to congratulate hofburg for this beautiful pictures. I should search my archive for some pictures of Paris motorways made in 2008.
you did a roadtrip to Paris?
I asked my girlfriend for the pictures we made during our visit in 2008 in Paris. Sorry if some of them are not quite as they should be, but I wasn't (such) a roadgeek back then.

First pictures are taken from our trip from CDG airport to Argenteuil, a suburb where we stayed:









Retiered Concorde:











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Short visit during the arrival evening in Paris city-center:



I think this tunnel was under La Defense:











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