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Old April 13th, 2013, 08:19 PM   #101
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Light rails yes but not trams

under construction
Ui LRT
EverLine LRT
Uijeongbu LRT

planned
Dongbuk LRT
Sinrim LRT
Gwangmyeong LRT
Cheonan LRT
I'd like to point out that all the LRTs are actually light metros. In Korea LRT stands for light rapid transit implying light grade separated railway AKA light metro. (See Busan–Gimhae Light Rail Transit) Similar to in China where elevated light metros are called "light rail".
The Ui LRT is a 100% underground light metro line that uses 750V 3rd rail. its been classified as an AGT (Automated Guideway Transit) See:Here
The EverLine LRT is a completely elevated light metro line that uses Bombardier ICTS (Intermediate Capacity Transit System)/ART (Advanced Rapid Transit)/Innova Metro technology
The Uijeongbu LRT is a completely elevated light metro line that uses French VAL (Véhicule Automatique Léger) technology

ATM there is no plans for a LRT (as in Light Rail Transit in China and Korea they are just called trams) in Seoul.

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You can do at grade as there are many wide roads in seoul where taking out a couple of lanes of traffic will actually increase people moving capacity and also increase the amenity of the places. Last thing seoul needs is lots of ugly elevated light rail lines in road corridors. Thought they knocked down such a structure to make the place better
They knocked down an expressway... over a river. Thats kinda different.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 02:27 PM   #102
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Little remark from Railway Gazette:

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Seoul Mayor Park Won-soon said on May 9 that the city government will spend 877bn won to replace 714 cars on Seoul Metro-operated lines 1, 2, 3 and 4 by 2022. All nine metro lines are to share a control centre from 2019
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Old June 4th, 2014, 02:19 AM   #103
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I'm really interested in when and at what pace the new subway lines and the Gyeonggi Train Express will be built. As there seems to be a lot pointing to a slight suburbanization going on in Sudogwon right now, so better connecting Gyeonggi cities with Seoul and each other is going to be very important.
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Old June 7th, 2014, 11:57 AM   #104
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interesting notice. the replace of the first cars are needed - because heawy traffic there.
but a new combined controll centre for all lines means a fundamental change, because of the current separate operators - and ownership!
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Old June 7th, 2014, 01:36 PM   #105
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Where can I read about the rolling stock dimensions? Length, width, height? Wikipedia doesn't say much.
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Old June 7th, 2014, 01:40 PM   #106
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I've always thought such powers as Japan, South Korea or China can replace the stock very quickly. But it's not the case. In Moscow down here we've seen more than 560 new 760/761 type cars over just the past two years, and several Russich cars.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 12:08 PM   #107
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I'm sure they could do it quickly if it was neccessary. The oldest line in Seoul is only 40 years old so it's not like some countries where they're still using the same rolling stock from the 1960s. I'm guessing the centralised control centre will be able to handle eventual automation of the lines? In which case 5 years to build an operations centre for ~1000km of subway lines actually seems quick. New stock in 8 years once the new operations centre is settle in
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Old June 8th, 2014, 03:35 PM   #108
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I've always thought such powers as Japan, South Korea or China can replace the stock very quickly. But it's not the case. In Moscow down here we've seen more than 560 new 760/761 type cars over just the past two years, and several Russich cars.
I can't speak for Korea or China, but in Japan, specifically the Tokyo Metropolitan area, most of the railway operators acquire their rolling stock based on a 20 year life cycle- as rolling stock is rarely introduced all at once, it can take years to replace a particularly large class- they are not replaced until they have fully depreciated.
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Old September 29th, 2014, 02:42 PM   #109
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Siemens secures Seoul automated signalling contract
Monday, September 29, 2014



HYUNDAI Information Technology has awarded Siemens a €20m contract to supply automation and signalling equipment for the 23km Sosa - Wonsi mixed traffic line which is currently under construction in Seoul

Siemens will supply its Trainguard MT automatic train protection (ATP) system along with automatic train operation (ATO), airlink radio transmission systems, and Sicas ECC-type electronic interlocking. In addition the line will be equipped for ETCS Level 1 operation for use by main line trains which will operate in conjunction with the automated mass rapid transit services.

The new line will branch from the Seoul - Incheon Line at Sosa and provide a direct connection with Wonsi New Port in Ansan. It will have a total of 13 stations and offer interchanges with Seoul metro Line 1 at Sosa, the proposed Ansan Line at Siheung City Hall, and Line 4 at Hwarang. The line is part of the new northern orbital around Seoul which is intended to reduce road traffic in the city.

Hyundai Information Technology is working as part of a consortium with Daewoo on the project which secured Won 1.52 trillion ($US 1.48bn) contract in 2011 and will manage and maintain the line for 20 years after it opens in mid-2016.
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Old October 26th, 2014, 10:55 AM   #110
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Here is the new Gangmae station on the Gyeongui Line, northwest Seoul.


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Platform: 2 island type 9m wide × 165m long
Parking area: 36 cars (including 2 disabled parking)
Amenities: Elevator, escalator, bike storage, nursery, etc.
1 day boarding Capacity: 13,780 people (by 2018)
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All local trains for Munsan bound and for Central Seoul stops here.


Some pictures from http://blog.naver.com/bjm6


Gangmae station main building (Exit 1)


Platform for tracks 1 - 2 for Central Seoul. Track 1 for Gongdeok Station and Track 2 for Seoul Station




Looking on the Munsan side, 900 meters away the Haengsin Station, terminal for some KTX and general stop for rapid commuter trains (급 Geum)


Looking on the Seoul side, commuter train for Gongdeok
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 02:14 AM   #111
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Seoul plans to raise bus and subway base fares in 2015. (The fare increases by distance in Seoul and the surrounding area so this is just the starting amount.)

http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/society/s...al/667078.html

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시, 내년 초 올리는 방안 검토
서울시가 버스와 지하철 요금을 내년 초에 최대 28%가량 인상하는 방안을 추진 중이다.

서울시 관계자는 1일 “버스와 지하철 적자가 수천억원에 달하는 등 요금 인상이 불가피하다. 건당 250~300원 정도 인상하는 방안을 추진 중”이라고 말했다.

현재 간선·지선버스와 지하철 기본요금은 1050원으로, 이 계획대로라면 23~28%가량 오르게 된다. 서울시는 요금 인상으로 인한 부담을 덜기 위해, 미리 할인된 금액으로 책정된 정기권을 구입하면 일정 기간 버스와 지하철을 무제한 이용할 수 있도록 하는 제도를 도입하고, 새벽시간대 요금을 대폭 깎아주는 방안도 검토 중인 것으로 알려졌다. 서울시 관계자는 “시의회에 대중교통 요금 인상안을 제출해 의결을 거쳐야 한다. 인천시, 경기도와 요금 인상 폭과 시기에 대한 세부 협의도 더 해야 한다”고 말했다.

서울시는 2012년 버스와 지하철 기본요금을 900원에서 200원 올리는 인상안을 제시했으나, 시의회는 50원을 깎아 150원 인상안을 통과시켰다.
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Seoul plans to raise base fares on the bus and subway at the beginning of 2015 by up to 28%. Today, December 1, city officials said, "Due to the several hundred billion won [~$270,000,000 US] deficit, a fare increase was inevitable. We are planning to raise it by 250-300 won [~$0.22-0.27 US]."

Currently the base fare on trunk and branch lines is 1,050 won [~$0.95 US] and this plan will raise fares 23-28%. Because of the burden of higher fares, citizens can purchase a commuter ticket which allows you to ride the bus and subway as much as you want. The plan also includes drastically reducing the overnight bus fares. City officials said, "The fare hike will have to be decided and passed. The fare hike for Incheon and Gyeonggido [Seoul and surrounding area] will have to be discussed in more detail."

In 2012 the base fare was presented to rise 200 won from 900 won, but was cut to a hike of 150 won.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 12:44 PM   #112
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Seoul metro operators to merge
16 Dec 2014



SOUTH KOREA: The Seoul metropolitan government announced on December 10 that it plans to merge the two city-owned metro operators by 2016.

The original operator, Seoul Metropolitan Subway Corp, operates metro lines 1, 2, 3 and 4. In 1994 Seoul Metropolitan Rapid Transit Corp was established with the aim of increasing performance through competition; it operates lines 5, 6, 7 and 8.

Mayor Park Won-soon has promised ‘sweeping reform’ in the combined organisation, and spoke of ‘changing everything except manpower’ in an effort to increase efficiency. Another aim is to reduce the deficit, estimated at a combined 4·6tr won. Renewal of assets costs nearly 1·6tr won per year.

The city says that the new operator would handle 6·8 million passengers/day on 300 route-km.

The merger would not affect Line 9, which is run by the SML9 consortium of Transdev and RATP Dev
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Old December 16th, 2014, 11:59 PM   #113
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http://nyjnews.net/sub_read.html?uid...=sc3&section2=

Gyeongui Line Phase 3 to open on December 27th. The Phase consists of an extension between the current terminus, Gongdeok, and Yongsan. This will effectively link the Gyeongui Line with the Jungang line.

This information has been known for quite some time, but what was I believe still uncertain was the degree of integration between Gyeongui and Jungang line. It seems that two lines will merge altogether, and will be renamed - brace yourselves - Gyeongui-Jungang Line. Trains will go all the way from Yongmun to Munsan on the 119km line (yes, 119!). Apparently, some kind of express service will also be introduced.
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Gyeongui·Jungang Line

The Gyeongui·Jungang Line was put in service on 27 December 2014. This new line is the comination of the Gyeongui Line and Jungang Line with the new connection between Gongdeok and Yongsan. A new station, Hyochang, will be added on 2015.


http://blog.naver.com/doryp/220221922346

This new line permits to cross directly the Seoul metropolitan area from Munsan to Yongmun, 118 km in total.

Gongdeok - Yongsan view


Gyeongui·Jungang Line test run passing Yongsang
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Updated map with Gyeongui-Jungang line on urbanrail.net:

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Suin Line - Darwol Station - open 2014.12.27



Source: wikipedia user Miguemk231 (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:K251Darwol.JPG)



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Line 3 - Wonheung Station - open 2014.12.27



Source: wikipedia user Miguemk231 (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...eung_Plat2.JPG)



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Old January 7th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #118
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Don't know about you but to me Seoul metro in its style is very different from Chinese metro systems.
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Don't know about you but to me Seoul metro in its style is very different from Chinese metro systems.
I'm sure that's a good thing, Seoul isn't in China.
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I'm sure that's a good thing, Seoul isn't in China.
It's an excellent thing. Seoul metro is a hundred times better than anything I've seen in China, glad it's different lol.

Last time I was in Beijing I ended up with bruises from riding the subway.. Glad the people are different too
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