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Old September 3rd, 2012, 10:33 PM   #2541
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very nice pictyres of Rotterdam Sash, nice colours also !!
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 11:17 PM   #2542
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Milan looks better, than Berlin
Everything looks better than Berlin
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Old September 4th, 2012, 12:19 AM   #2543
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One unfinished questionable quality glassy building, number of commieblocks and few also unfinished residential high-rises in a background.

Is this view more interesting than Potzdamerplats the fine high-rise cluster and combined with TV Tover, Cathedral and etc?

I don't think that Minsk has anything to show in this thread at all at the moment.
For me it is. Berlin looks nice but for me it isn't the best in Europe while Minsk isn't either it is ahead for me in a skyline-wise type silhouette.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 01:01 AM   #2544
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Rotterdam was destroyed in WW2 just like berlin but berlins buildings are too much spread out over the city , so you can't really see a real skyline
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Old September 4th, 2012, 02:44 AM   #2545
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1. Moscow
2. Frankfurt
3. London
4. Paris
5. Madrid
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Old September 4th, 2012, 05:07 AM   #2546
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Rotterdam was destroyed in WW2 just like berlin but berlins buildings are too much spread out over the city , so you can't really see a real skyline
Berlin is also too poor for proper skyline. 50% of the people there live on welfare. Economically its just in a different league than for example Paris, Rotterdam or London.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 07:49 AM   #2547
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Old September 4th, 2012, 04:16 PM   #2548
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I prefer the smaller cities to be honest, though for this thread I am stuck between Paris, London and Frankfurt.

Paris: Because of the Eiffel Tower, La Defence is cool and all, but there is something uniquely parisian about that Iron Tower sticking out of the rooftops, supported by the odd Dome or Spire here and there. The same reason I love the smaller cities in the UK such as Bath, Paris retains a lot of it's pre-war granduer whilst London has been compromised.

London: I love the mixture of buildings, the juxtoposition of the Gherkin and St Pauls for example. There is a hint of bias here as I used to work in Zone 1 but I genuinely love the ecclectic mix that London offers. Plus, the Gherkin and 122 Leadenhall are two of the greatest Skyscrapers of the 21st century IMHO.

Frankfurt: The sheer imposing scale of it. The messerturm (spelling?) is one of the more unique skyscrapers in Europe, more suited to the US Midwest. I love it.

Edit: I want to add Edinburgh, sorry if I am coming across biased for including TWO British cities, but I love the look of Edinburgh, looks like a city out of a Video game or something. Sweet!

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Old September 4th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #2549
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it's called Messeturm

Messe = fair
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Old September 4th, 2012, 05:03 PM   #2550
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Very famous in Germany are Messer-Messen
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Old September 4th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #2551
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Old September 4th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #2552
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Rotterdam for its sizeable skyscraper\highrise cluster despite its not belonging to Europe's largest cities. + it all lools so slick and compact as any could have wished. (btw, the worst to my mind is Paris' skyline, these 1970s like highrises are no good in the city of fine arts, savory history and airiness).
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Old September 4th, 2012, 11:00 PM   #2553
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Berlin is also too poor for proper skyline. 50% of the people there live on welfare. Economically its just in a different league than for example Paris, Rotterdam or London.
Goschio is an old geezer who has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to Berlin. Typical attitude for the Southwestern German users on here.
Berlin is nowhere near 50% unemployment rate. Real rate is 12% and is decreasing. There are Berlin areas like Grunewald, Dahlem and Westend which are actually VERY prosperous. With 19th century mansions and all that stuff.
I agree that Berlin has no "real" skyline, however, in regard to culture, diversity, size, awesomness it would easily beat the shit out of minor cities like Warsaw or Frankfurt. Same goes for "real" metropolises like Amsterdam and Vienna, who don't have a skyline, too.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #2554
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There are more than the unemployed who live on welfare. The whole city basically lives on transfer money.

Cut that money and Berlin would bleed out.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #2555
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Same goes for "real" metropolises like Amsterdam and Vienna, who don't have a skyline, too.
Vienna has a skyline, though it is (still) not compareable with London or Paris, but in my opinion it's a skyline! And it's developing too. There are already two clusters and in a few years there will be a third one too.

Some buildings buildings:
DanubeTower (completed): 252m
DC Tower 1 (soon T/O): 220m (with spire 248)
MillenniumTower (completed): 171 (with spire 202m)
DC Tower 2 (not yet under construction but probably soon): 168m
Vienna Twin Tower 1 (completed): 138m
IZD Tower (completed): 130m

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Old September 5th, 2012, 03:03 PM   #2556
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I like Rottedam, it has a bit of a futurist look about it I think. Different vibe to the rest of Netherlands where the newer commercial architecture can be a bit underwhelming, functional and low to mid-rise.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 04:40 PM   #2557
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Old September 5th, 2012, 07:17 PM   #2558
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There are more than the unemployed who live on welfare. The whole city basically lives on transfer money.

Cut that money and Berlin would bleed out.
Unfortunately this is basically true. And that's why you will not see a cluster-skyline there.

The only city from Germany that is really worth to mention here is Frankfurt and to the near future it will remain only Franfurt.

The other cities, that have at least a smaller midrise skyline like Düsseldorf, Cologne and Essen don't grow.

Hamburg is the only city with a potential for a bigger skyline, but before the proposed projects will rise I am already dead
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Old September 5th, 2012, 07:33 PM   #2559
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Oh boy. Since when are unemployed people of a city a benchmark for real estate developments or potential highrise buildings.

Berlin has one of the highest population growth figures (absolute terms) in Europe. It is one of the most hyped
investment locations in Europe as well. Peak rents in inner city locations are as high as in FFM or Munich by now.

Berlins property market s booming, there is not one German city with comparable dynamics.

Europes highest, most diverse and most iconic skyline is in Berlin.


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Old September 6th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #2560
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