DISCUSS: Best European Skyline (major cities only)

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Victhor

By the way, I have seen in this thread some figures of number of skyscrapers over xxx metres per city, but there are no figures for Moscow, it should be on top of those rankings.

Here you can count the number of buildings over xxx metres. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=50900898

[SO143]

Cities with 100m+ buildings (According to that SSP diagrams)

Moscow 82
London 55
Frankfurt 36
Paris 27
Rotterndam 25
Benidorm 13

New York 475

[SO143]

Moscow
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[Pfeuffer]

Originally Posted by SO143

Cities with 100m+ buildings (According to that SSP diagrams)

Moscow 82
London 55
Frankfurt 36
Paris 27
Rotterndam 25
Benidorm 13

New York 475

and HK ?

[bus driver]

According to this post http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...9&postcount=75 in Moscow 152 T/O 100m+ buildings

[Victhor]

Originally Posted by SO143

Cities with 100m+ buildings (According to that SSP diagrams)

Moscow 82
London 55
Frankfurt 36
Paris 27
Rotterndam 25
Benidorm 13

New York 475

That web is missing some Benidorm buildings height, there are 25 completed buildings over 100 metres, an another one under construction that will be 200 metres tall. Here you have them all: http://www.disseny.benidorm.org/imag...ascacielos.jpg
And Villajoyosa, the little neighbour town that shares some streets with Benidorm (like Paris and Courbevoie) has 4 buildings over 100 metres, that sums up 30 buildings over 100 metres, in a place with a population of 100,000, if London (with pop: 7,5m) had the same high-rise density than Benidorm, it would have 2250 buildings over 100 metres

[SO143]

I don't know sir, that static data made by SSP is only based on their diagrams and they are not reliable as well. I realised it when i counted the total number of 100m+ highrises in Hong Kong. So just ignore that list.


Rotterdam at night by Ni3lS

Originally Posted by Ni3lS

From last night, may 25th:

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ROTTERDAM: MY CITY by NielsKristianPhotography, on Flickr

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Rotterdam Night Lights by NielsKristianPhotography, on Flickr

[Eduardo L. Ramirez]

Stunning pics

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by SO143

I don't know sir, that static data made by SSP is only based on their diagrams and they are not reliable as well. I realised it when i counted the total number of 100m+ highrises in Hong Kong. So just ignore that list.

There's a better one from CTBUH. As you can see, Moscow, Istanbul, and Paris are the only European cities to make the Global top 50. This is the top 50 ranked by 'Combined Heights' which is the height in metres of all buildings over 100 m added together.

City: # of buildings 100 metres or more---Combined Heights in metres

01. Hong Kong: 2,354---333,836
02. New York: 794---109,720
03. Tokyo: 556---73,008
04. Dubai: 403---66,248
05. Shanghai: 430---59,958

06. Bangkok: 355---48,737
07. Chicago: 341---48,441
08. Ghuangzhou: 295---42,865
09. Seoul: 282---39,308
10. Kuala Lumpur: 244---34,035

11. Singapore: 238---33,735
12. Shenzhen: 235---33,435
13. Chongqing: 226---31,475
14. Toronto: 216---27,867
15. Panama City: 185---27,478

16. Manila: 186---26,307
17. Jakarta: 170---23,674
18. Sao Paulo: 194---22,794
19. Osaka: 172---22,754
20. Beijing: 172---22,192

21. Macau: 131---19,597
22. Moscow: 132---18,504
23. Tianjin: 131---18,259
24. Nanjing: 110---16,784
25. Mumbai: 118---16,331

26. Miami: 137---18,385
27. Buenos Aires: 122---15,254
28. Sydney: 102---13,933
29. Mexico City: 114---13,862
30. Dalian: 93---12,803

31. Houston: 86---12,614
32. Doha: 78---12,254
33. Istanbul: 90---11,897
34. Honolulu: 104---11,855
35. San Francisco: 88---11,582

36. Wuhan: 79---11,236
37. Busan: 64---10,556
38. Shenyang: 76---10,479
39. Atlanta: 73---10,471
40. Chengdu: 81---10,453

41. Los Angeles: 70---10,062
42. Melbourne: 69---9,868
43. Paris: 78---9,558
44. Qingdao: 68---9,404
45. Rio de Janeiro: 73: 8,867

46. Xiamen: 66---8,584
47. Hangzhou: 62---8,463
48. Las Vegas: 59: 8,241
49. Dallas: 53---7,879
50. Tel Aviv: 59---7,679


Maroon: Cities in Asia (28)
Navy: Cities in America (16)
Green: Cities in the Rest of the World (6)

http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?...language=en-GB

[the Ludovico center]

Originally Posted by Victhor

I think the first picture is Balneario Camboriu in Brazil,

Oops!!!

Thanks for the heads up and the correction.

and I agree with your opinion, but maybe we could say one thing is the best "skyline" (just how the city looks from far), or wich one is the most "skyscraper-city", for me, the last one are the most impressive as a skyscraper fan, because you feel there could be new tall projects anywhere in the city, and you can easily live in a tall building, as example, I'm planning to do a 2 day trip to Benidorm, I'm looking for a cheap hotel and well located, and the best option is in a 25 floor building, how many chances do you have to stay in such a tall building in other cities in Europe?

Next to zero % chance

You need spend a fortune to stay at the handful of skyscraper hotels in Europe outside Benidorm. They charge premium for the very fact that they are high rise. For example until recently the most expensive hotel in Amsterdam was the Japanese 'Hotel Okura' which coincidentally was also one of only TWO skyscrapers (20+ story buildings) in Amsterdam until recently (until the boom of the 1990s-2000s).

[Baboulinet]

Too many night pictures in this thread Clearly posted in order to create a fake illusion of nonexistent continuity in the skylines

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[the Ludovico center]

Originally Posted by Baboulinet

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By that quote I meant that night-light tends to mesh up the building edges and makes distinguishing the low rise from the high rise difficult. It doesn't mean I don't like night skyline, I love it. But in order to increase the objectivity it is good not to forget the day-pics too. That's all I'm saying.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Pfeuffer

a pic tells more than a thousand words

Prettier, but definitely not denser.

[SO143]

Some shots around La Defense, Paris
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by Thierry B

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[koolio]

Very nice. But for some reason, I can't help but prefer the Canary Wharf skyline.

[Clone]

Originally Posted by alekssa1

Are you sure
Timeline of tallest buildings
City of Capitals: Moscow Moscow 2009–present
Naberezhnaya Tower C Moscow 2007–2009
Triumph-Palace Moscow 2005–2007
Commerzbank Tower Frankfurt 1997–2005
Messeturm Frankfurt 1990–1997
Moscow State University Moscow 1953–1990
Kotelnicheskaya Embankment Moscow 1952–1953
Boerentoren Antwerp 1932-1952

I make the most classical choice: Frankfurt, Istanbul, Moscow, London, Paris, Warsaw, in no particular order

Antwerp had the first skyscraper. Still the prettiest of Europe

[Victhor]

Originally Posted by Clone

Antwerp had the first skyscraper. Still the prettiest of Europe

All the buildings that have ever been the tallest in Europe are called "the first skysraper in Europe", that's because there's no limit for a building to be called skyscraper, Madrid's Telefonica building is also called like that, because it was the tallest european building until that building in Antwerp was completed (1926 to 1932 I think), and before Telefonica building there were other "first european skyscrapers"

[Clone]

Originally Posted by Victhor

All the buildings that have ever been the tallest in Europe are called "the first skysraper in Europe", that's because there's no limit for a building to be called skyscraper, Madrid's Telefonica building is also called like that, because it was the tallest european building until that building in Antwerp was completed (1926 to 1932 I think), and before Telefonica building there were other "first european skyscrapers"

That building in Antwerp is wildly accepted as the first skyscraper in Europe. The building in Madrid is no skyscraper to me. It is a big building wit a small tower on top of it.
Like you say, there is no definition, but everybody can judge for them-self.

[isaidso]

Well there are some criteria used to determine whether a building was a skyscraper such as steel truss and/or incorporation of elevator, etc.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by koolio

Very nice. But for some reason, I can't help but prefer the Canary Wharf skyline.

Maybe because Canary Wharf is very Canadian in its appearance and design. It was inspired by Toronto.