is correct then the Spillers is coming down. I don't know if this merits a thread NH, but it seems to be a significant demolition and change to the skyline. Of course the chaps from 28days might be wrong, in which case NH, feel free to delete.
I road through Spillers on my bike last year and it certainly was an impressive place despite being derelict and half burnt and its a shame that it is coming down.
This may be a storm in a teacup - the demolition signs combined with evolution, but the boys from 28days seem confident. If not mea culpa. I love the building but suspect it's not long for this world.
If you follow the links from the INDEX, they will take you to all the various previous posts on here about Spillers, and they will give you all the available information known (which is quite a lot) about Spillers Mill on this forum.
My partner worked at the sorting office one Christmas and she told me that if anyone dropped a load of letters the posties would all call out in unison "Spillers is NE6".
Another volatile Quayside building. There might be a new source of energy to replace gas fired power stations, simply capture the energy from burning Quayside structures.
The fact that the Chronicle has written this up leads me to assume that it will be standing long after I am
Searched under 'spillers', 'spiller's' and 'grain AND warehouse'. I can only find previous applications for 1988 (1988/0205/01/UDC) and 1977 (1977/0904/01/DET).
Searched under 'spillers', 'spiller's' and 'grain AND warehouse'. I can only find previous applications for 1988 (1988/0205/01/UDC) and 1977 (1977/0904/01/DET). Doesn't seem to be a legal basis for demolition
Glad I'm not the only one that couldn't find anything on the NCC site hno:
Found this on the Web so take it with a pinch of salt:
Demolition does not usually require planning permission except in certain circumstances, but you cannot then rebuild on the site without planning permission. Demolition of Listed Buildings requires Listed Building Consent and special provisions apply in Conservation Areas
Assuming that the quote attributed to English Heritage is right ['English heritage have determined the mill is not of singificant historic importance'] then it reads to me as if they just need to bring in a wrecking ball.
I've also drawn a blank with planning. DX Newcastle - can you help ?
I can confirm that it is coming down, having spoken with more officers today.
There is some debate arising from a technicality (which has been re-defined in case Law) as to whether Planning Permission may be required or not, but that doesn't seem to be a material issue.
I understand that there is an interest group which may seek to preserve the structure for its heritage value. I can't add much to that other than to fear that even Heritage funding might be under the same stress as other Charitable and Lottery funds at present.
Well its the old argument, by all means preserve it from a heritage perspective but it has to be put to some use and judging from the internal structure it wouldn't suit being converted into apartments.
If Spillers Wharf was gutted like the Baltic was it would make a great, cavernous and immersive space for modern art events, performances and displays - sort of like the turbine hall in the tate modern, only more stark and striking. could even get the baltic chaps to run it.
there's already windows in the concrete, but i dont know how feasible it would be to adapt the building to residential, or if there is demand (affordable housing maybe?). it's one of tyneside's most striking buildings, being vaguely moderne/deco in style, white, and of a scale largely unseen anywhere else in the city. massive shame if it goes, truly part of our heritage and a local icon.
If gutted like the Baltic was it would make a great, cavernous and immersive space for modern art events, performances and displays - sort of like the turbine hall in the tate modern, only more stark and striking. could even get the baltic chaps to run it.
there's already windows in the concrete, but i dont know how feasible it would be to adapt the building to residential, or if there is demand (affordable housing maybe?). it's one of tyneside's most striking buildings, being vaguely moderne/deco in style, white, and of a scale largely unseen anywhere else in the city. massive shame if it goes, truly part of our heritage and a local icon.
There is too much similarity between Spillers and the Baltic. If you make Spillers an art venue, I think it will take away from the Baltic rather than complement it.
^^ Not sure I get your drift? I didn't mean there is no space for another large art venue in the city, but I do think another conversion of an industrial flour mill on the river bank might just be too similar and ruin all that makes Baltic truly unique.
Sorry. what I was referring to you was the huge amount of money that had been wasted by NCC in funding the now distinct Waygood Gallery - nothing short of a scandal in my opinion.
Anyway, I think as far as any funding for Spillars by NCC would be extremely doubtful :bash:
I have no hesitation about knocking it down as I am not sentimental about our industrial past.
Absolutely agree with Steve about the Waygood fiasco which should have ended with show trails and the ending of many careers.
But then I don't believe the state should be in the business of funding art.
Just read this and thought i might stick up a few rooftop shots for those who are wondering what the view is like seems a shame to knock it down with views like this.
even on a dull day its spectacular
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