#UC (Basement only): 111+222 - 37st/160m & 90st/270m/mixed - Page 2

Levathian · May 18th, 2011, 08:54 AM

Yay

CM NIMBYs are at it again

carbon tax hater of melbourne Posted at 3:59 PM Today
Don't build these awful things. You'll end up a crappy city similar to Sydney or Melbourne
Comment 7 of 14

bayside bob of the bay Posted at 4:01 PM Today
Another plate glass and concrete monstrosity for the CBD and another 1000 cars to clog up the city.
Comment 9 of 14

eyesore of bne Posted at 4:05 PM Today
well with tunnels we dont use and ugly bridges that 2 year old children could out design being built , i suppose one more eye sore wont hurt,
Comment 11 of 14

Fyturis · May 18th, 2011, 08:54 AM

I actually think they should have the beacon I talked about earlier at a specific height so that it reaches 333m so 111+222 =333m and taller than Q1

Lev , we must fight back the NIMBYS, this wonderful project MUST not go the way of Northbank!

BrissyMan1 · May 18th, 2011, 08:55 AM

I'll deflect comment on the spizzy 90 storey tower, but the floorplate shape of the smaller tower, which I assume is commercial, doesn't look all that impressive. I'm sure some government agency will lease it though eventually.

I'm no Town Planning Professional, but my small knowledge would indicate their first stage request for parking is a long shot, considering the councils tough stance of additional parking in the city that isn't specifically their to service the site.

I'll be interested to see the size of the units - I'm expecting shoe boxes.

KJBrissy · May 18th, 2011, 08:57 AM

That may be why they are after the extension of the previous Vision approval which also had it staged. They can also use the arguement that it was a carpark initially and that they will be filling in the site and making a cross block link.

KJBrissy · May 18th, 2011, 08:59 AM

More pics:

SoulvisionQ1 · May 18th, 2011, 09:01 AM

What is the tallest tower in Brisbane currently? Eureka? Will it beat it?

KJBrissy · May 18th, 2011, 09:02 AM

If the height is RL, it will be about 4m shorter than Eureka. If the hieght is AGL, it will be the exact same height as Eureka.

This will be 47m higher above sea level than Soleil and Riparians Spire and about 85m taller than Aurora.

It will be massive (taller to roof than Visions spire would've been!)

lotec · May 18th, 2011, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJBrissy

If the height is RL, it will be about 4m shorter than Eureka. If the hieght is AGL, it will be the exact same height as Eureka.

This will be 47m higher above sea level than Soleil and Riparians Spire and about 85m taller than Aurora.

It will be massive (taller to roof than Visions spire would've been!)

This really puts things in to perspective.

Amazing day for Brisbane development fans....

Sky_Is_The_Limit · May 18th, 2011, 09:12 AM

Fucking amazing news!!

297m tower is far beyond anything I expected for this site, and dare I say it the new tower looks like it might be ever better than Vision!!

The podium/s look amazing and it's great news to be getting a 380 room hotel as well!!

SoulvisionQ1 · May 18th, 2011, 09:18 AM

The fact they have AMP backing the commercial componant is very good news and gives the project much more confidence going into the first stage.

BrissyMan1 · May 18th, 2011, 09:21 AM

Lets hold our horses people, the thing still needs to be built.

Sky_Is_The_Limit · May 18th, 2011, 09:25 AM

At 297m exactly it would be No.2 tallest to the roof behind Eureka wouldn't it? Eureka is 297.3m..

SoulvisionQ1 · May 18th, 2011, 09:26 AM

The fact they have AMP backing the commercial componant is very good news and gives the project much more confidence going into the first stage.

DQ · May 18th, 2011, 09:51 AM

Been lurking for too long but had to comment on this one so I joined haha! Not gonna lie absolutely love it, hopefully it gets off the ground. Watching this thread and listening to the hack special on triple J all about Brisbane's growth makes me excited for the future of this town! It will be interesting to see the councils view on the building, how long do DA's usually take for approval (assuming there aren't any major changes that need to be made)?

neilo63 · May 18th, 2011, 10:00 AM

HOLY F***!

This looks like a much, much, much more refined and timeless project!

Wezza · May 18th, 2011, 10:02 AM

WOW!!! Crossing everything for this one.

asdfg · May 18th, 2011, 10:07 AM

Great news. However, this sentence is a bit confusing:

"a 34-storey tower at 111 Mary Street, a 380 room hotel at 222 Margaret St, with ballroom, restaurants and bars, and a public link from Mary St to Margaret St, a residential tower with a mix of 790 studio, one, two and three bedroom apartments"

There's two towers, not three, right? And 222 is the big one I assume? Anyone able to clearly state what the use of each tower is?

Marty_ · May 18th, 2011, 10:12 AM

I was assuming that 222 is a mix of hotel and resi apartments whilst 111 is office.

CP Doom · May 18th, 2011, 10:18 AM

call me when its being built, Brissie has had so many "talls" cancelled, its rather depressing in fact.

***Oriolus*** · May 18th, 2011, 10:19 AM

OMFG!! I think its fair to say this would be beyond the wildest expectations of any reasonable person when we were first hearing about the Billgergia plans for the site. The design looks stunning, not as good as Vision, but taller and sounds like a project of equal or greater scale and quality. Vision will always be missed, but with something like this to look forward too I think we can finally put that behind us without too much regret. I'm wondering if there will be any plans for an observation deck at the top?

BTW, welcome to SSC DQ, nice to have you. And I've made a new thread for 111+222 split from the old Vision thread.

May 18th, 2011, 08:54 AM	#22
Fyturis Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brisbane \| Australia Posts: 830 Likes (Received): 74	I actually think they should have the beacon I talked about earlier at a specific height so that it reaches 333m so 111+222 =333m and taller than Q1 Lev , we must fight back the NIMBYS, this wonderful project MUST not go the way of Northbank! __________________ I used to be crustacean, In an underwater nation And I surf in celebration, Of a billion adaptations

May 18th, 2011, 08:57 AM	#24
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,331 Likes (Received): 130	That may be why they are after the extension of the previous Vision approval which also had it staged. They can also use the arguement that it was a carpark initially and that they will be filling in the site and making a cross block link. __________________ "Traditionally what has hurt people has not been rising interest rates but rising unemployment. I don't care what rate you're paying, if you have a mortgage five times your income and you lose your job, you're toast." Gerard Minack, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.

May 18th, 2011, 08:59 AM	#25
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,331 Likes (Received): 130	More pics: __________________ "Traditionally what has hurt people has not been rising interest rates but rising unemployment. I don't care what rate you're paying, if you have a mortgage five times your income and you lose your job, you're toast." Gerard Minack, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.

May 18th, 2011, 09:01 AM	#26
SoulvisionQ1 New Urbanist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 4,144 Likes (Received): 33	What is the tallest tower in Brisbane currently? Eureka? Will it beat it? __________________ Brisbane's dedicated development news site: BrisbaneDevelopment.com Follow BD Online on twitter

May 18th, 2011, 09:02 AM	#27
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,331 Likes (Received): 130	If the height is RL, it will be about 4m shorter than Eureka. If the hieght is AGL, it will be the exact same height as Eureka. This will be 47m higher above sea level than Soleil and Riparians Spire and about 85m taller than Aurora. It will be massive (taller to roof than Visions spire would've been!) __________________ "Traditionally what has hurt people has not been rising interest rates but rising unemployment. I don't care what rate you're paying, if you have a mortgage five times your income and you lose your job, you're toast." Gerard Minack, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.

May 18th, 2011, 08:54 AM	#21
Levathian SELF-BΑNNED Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brisbane Posts: 850 Likes (Received): 313	Yay CM NIMBYs are at it again carbon tax hater of melbourne Posted at 3:59 PM Today Don't build these awful things. You'll end up a crappy city similar to Sydney or Melbourne Comment 7 of 14 bayside bob of the bay Posted at 4:01 PM Today Another plate glass and concrete monstrosity for the CBD and another 1000 cars to clog up the city. Comment 9 of 14 eyesore of bne Posted at 4:05 PM Today well with tunnels we dont use and ugly bridges that 2 year old children could out design being built , i suppose one more eye sore wont hurt, Comment 11 of 14

May 18th, 2011, 08:55 AM	#23
BrissyMan1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 254 Likes (Received): 1	I'll deflect comment on the spizzy 90 storey tower, but the floorplate shape of the smaller tower, which I assume is commercial, doesn't look all that impressive. I'm sure some government agency will lease it though eventually. I'm no Town Planning Professional, but my small knowledge would indicate their first stage request for parking is a long shot, considering the councils tough stance of additional parking in the city that isn't specifically their to service the site. I'll be interested to see the size of the units - I'm expecting shoe boxes.

May 18th, 2011, 09:12 AM	#29
Sky_Is_The_Limit Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 7,991 Likes (Received): 178	Fucking amazing news!! 297m tower is far beyond anything I expected for this site, and dare I say it the new tower looks like it might be ever better than Vision!! The podium/s look amazing and it's great news to be getting a 380 room hotel as well!! __________________ nwrl//barangaroo//central park sydney//sydney light rail//darling harbour live SYDNEY PROJECT WATCH amp centre redevelopment//uts//parramatta square//115 bathurst street//city one

May 18th, 2011, 09:18 AM	#30
SoulvisionQ1 New Urbanist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 4,144 Likes (Received): 33	The fact they have AMP backing the commercial componant is very good news and gives the project much more confidence going into the first stage. __________________ Brisbane's dedicated development news site: BrisbaneDevelopment.com Follow BD Online on twitter

May 18th, 2011, 09:21 AM	#31
BrissyMan1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 254 Likes (Received): 1	Lets hold our horses people, the thing still needs to be built.

May 18th, 2011, 09:25 AM	#32
Sky_Is_The_Limit Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 7,991 Likes (Received): 178	At 297m exactly it would be No.2 tallest to the roof behind Eureka wouldn't it? Eureka is 297.3m.. __________________ nwrl//barangaroo//central park sydney//sydney light rail//darling harbour live SYDNEY PROJECT WATCH amp centre redevelopment//uts//parramatta square//115 bathurst street//city one

May 18th, 2011, 09:26 AM	#33
SoulvisionQ1 New Urbanist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 4,144 Likes (Received): 33	The fact they have AMP backing the commercial componant is very good news and gives the project much more confidence going into the first stage. __________________ Brisbane's dedicated development news site: BrisbaneDevelopment.com Follow BD Online on twitter

May 18th, 2011, 09:51 AM	#34
DQ Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brisbane Posts: 161 Likes (Received): 19	Been lurking for too long but had to comment on this one so I joined haha! Not gonna lie absolutely love it, hopefully it gets off the ground. Watching this thread and listening to the hack special on triple J all about Brisbane's growth makes me excited for the future of this town! It will be interesting to see the councils view on the building, how long do DA's usually take for approval (assuming there aren't any major changes that need to be made)? __________________ Brisbaaaaane

May 18th, 2011, 10:00 AM	#35
neilo63 NOD Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Posts: 1,188 Likes (Received): 12	HOLY F**! This looks like a much, much, much more refined and timeless project! __________________ Surrounded by mediocre boxes.... Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful* Warren Buffett

May 18th, 2011, 10:02 AM	#36
Wezza © Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Townsville Posts: 7,574 Likes (Received): 112	WOW!!! Crossing everything for this one.

May 18th, 2011, 10:07 AM	#37
asdfg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,036 Likes (Received): 41	Great news. However, this sentence is a bit confusing: "a 34-storey tower at 111 Mary Street, a 380 room hotel at 222 Margaret St, with ballroom, restaurants and bars, and a public link from Mary St to Margaret St, a residential tower with a mix of 790 studio, one, two and three bedroom apartments" There's two towers, not three, right? And 222 is the big one I assume? Anyone able to clearly state what the use of each tower is?

May 18th, 2011, 10:12 AM	#38
Marty_ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,754 Likes (Received): 39	I was assuming that 222 is a mix of hotel and resi apartments whilst 111 is office.

May 18th, 2011, 10:18 AM	#39
CP Doom Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Morwell Posts: 1,219 Likes (Received): 19	call me when its being built, Brissie has had so many "talls" cancelled, its rather depressing in fact.

May 18th, 2011, 10:19 AM	#40
*Oriolus* OzScrapers Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Townsville Posts: 4,950 Likes (Received): 24	OMFG!! I think its fair to say this would be beyond the wildest expectations of any reasonable person when we were first hearing about the Billgergia plans for the site. The design looks stunning, not as good as Vision, but taller and sounds like a project of equal or greater scale and quality. Vision will always be missed, but with something like this to look forward too I think we can finally put that behind us without too much regret. I'm wondering if there will be any plans for an observation deck at the top? BTW, welcome to SSC DQ, nice to have you. And I've made a new thread for 111+222 split from the old Vision thread. __________________ Townsville Biggest city in the northern half of the great southern land. Visit me on flickr

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