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Old May 18th, 2011, 09:29 PM   #1
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Foreign cities on road signs

The UK does (but only for Ireland, not for Continental Europe)



Portugal does not

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Old May 18th, 2011, 09:54 PM   #2
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Netherlands: First towns past the border appear when you approach the last major town before the border


Belgium: Towns like Breda, Eindhoven, Aachen and Luxembourg actually appear quite early. Lille and Aachen (on the E40) slightly later but early enough.


Luxembourg: Small country, cross-border references are all over the place


France: Widespread use and often at an early stage. Barcelona signposted from Orange, Bruxelles from just north of Paris.


Germany: Widespread use. Towns like Venlo, Basel and Salzburg even form the control city on long stretches of motorway


Switzerland: Places abroad start to appear in the border region . Prominent exception: Milano, which appears even before the Gotthard.


Austria: Not too much to say other than "yes they do". München features prominently on signs in Tirol.


Italy: They do, but not a lot. Italian signs tend to focus on towns just before or on the border (Como, Ventimiglia, Brennero, Frejus) and only then the rest of the world starts to get signposted.


Spain: The bulk of the signs simply says "France" or "Portugal". You may come across towns abroad on distance signs (Perpinya and Burdeos, pointing to Perpignan and Bordeaux respectively).

Sweden: Plenty of references to towns in Norway. Most prominently, Oslo signposted from the E4 in Stockholm.

Norway: Plenty of references to towns in Sweden. Most prominently, Stockholm signposted from the E6 in Oslo.

Denmark: There are not many signs pointing to places abroad, but I do not think that that is a matter of principle. It's more the Danish signposting style generally, combined with the small number of land borders. Malmö appears in metropolitan Křbenhavn, Flensborg appears on the E45 south of Kolding. The latter is not a typo, but they just spell the town in Danish.

Poland: An old habit of only signposting a tiny village on the Polish side of the border, often from hundreds of kilometers out. But I hear that Western Poland now starts to see towns like Berlin and Dresden on signs on the international throughfares. The picture below, however, shows a new road and old habits.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 09:56 PM   #3
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France has yes :

http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q&sourc...,40.35,,0,3.85

http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q&sourc...05.58,,0,-1.83

Edit : Well perfect examples of what Pino said for France!

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Old May 18th, 2011, 10:04 PM   #4
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There are a few in South Africa for Maseru (Lesotho), Mbabane (Swaziland) and Maputo (Mozambique), but only very close to the border. There may well be some for Gaborone (Botswana) too.

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Old May 18th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #5
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I think that we don't have even a single one in Slovakia.

Imo, it is the same in Czech Republic.

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The UK does (but only for Ireland, not for Continental Europe)
I thought that Northern Ireland is right next to the Republic of Ireland.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 12:04 AM   #6
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Italy: They do, but not a lot. Italian signs tend to focus on towns just before or on the border (Como, Ventimiglia, Brennero, Frejus) and only then the rest of the world starts to get signposted.
I agree. but there is an exception (perhaps the only). the A4/A23 interchange in Palmanova. The border is distant approximately 110 km but Villach is already signed:
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I don't understand, isn't that something very usual? In Slo I don't think there is one directions sign without a foreign city.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 12:13 AM   #8
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I don't understand, isn't that something very usual? In Slo I don't think there is one directions sign without a foreign city.
In Italy is definitely not usual. Slovenia is small and surrounded by foreign countries with big cities, Italy is big and there aren't many important cities near its borders.
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I don't understand, isn't that something very usual? In Slo I don't think there is one directions sign without a foreign city.
There are none in Portugal as far as I know, not even for bigish Spanish cities

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I think that we don't have even a single one in Slovakia.

Imo, it is the same in Czech Republic.



I thought that Northern Ireland is right next to the Republic of Ireland.
Yes, that is the point
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Close to the Canada/US border.

Near the City of White Rock, just south of the HWY 99/King George Bvd. jct.
http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=49...201.24,,2,1.91
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Not just in Europe, but also in North America.

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I agree. but there is an exception (perhaps the only). the A4/A23 interchange in Palmanova.
Lyon is signposted from Torino (plus on distance signs on the A4 west of Milan), so that is a significant further exception. North of Milan, you come across some signs referring to the Gotthard. But that is of course closer to the border than the other two examples, and not signposted on a continuous basis. Also noteworthy are references to the Simplon here and there around the A8 and A26. Just a bit into Switzerland, but a foreign focal appearing early nonetheless.

@hofburg, you will see that many countries will not signpost places abroad, or will postpone that step until the very last moment. It is not very Western European as you see, but very common beyond Western Europe, with signs just guiding you to the border village. In that border village, you will come across the first sign to a place abroad, or to the name of the neighbouring country. The worst of them all has to be Australia's Northern Territory. Except for one reference to Adelaide somewhere in Alice Springs, they even fail to signpost to towns in other Australian states. Instead, you will be pointed to the SA Border, the Qld Border or the WA Border (as appropriate).

Some non-European countries where I have seen signposting along that line:
- Argentina
- Chile
- Mexico
- Guatemala
- Belize
- Laos
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I think that we don't have even a single one in Slovakia.

Imo, it is the same in Czech Republic.
Not true, Brno is signed all the way form Bratislava, as well as Győr or Wien.
On D2 Bratislava is a control city together with Břeclav, on D8 we have Dresden (D) as control city from Ústí n/L together with Petrovice, on D1 Gliwice are the control city together with Bohumin etc on other roads...
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In Vancouver, Canada there are signs with distances to Seattle on them (especially on the 99) and vice versa for the I-5 in Seattle.
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Bulgaria - No. There is not a single sign with a foreign city written on it.
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Bulgaria - No. There is not a single sign with a foreign city written on it.
This is not true. In Sofia there are many signs with Belgrade, Athena and Istanbul. On E80 there are signs for Istanbul too
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I think that we don't have even a single one in Slovakia.
In Bratislava the ways for H, CZ and A (via motorway D2) are always signed with the control cities Brno, Györ, Budapest (on the new sign), and Vienna.
In Kosice the way to Hungary (E71) is signed using "Miskolc" .
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Not true, Brno is signed all the way form Bratislava, as well as Győr or Wien.
On D2 Bratislava is a control city together with Břeclav, on D8 we have Dresden (D) as control city from Ústí n/L together with Petrovice, on D1 Gliwice are the control city together with Bohumin etc on other roads...
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In Bratislava the ways for H, CZ and A (via motorway D2) are always signed with the control cities Brno, Györ, Budapest (on the new sign), and Vienna.
In Kosice the way to Hungary (E71) is signed using "Miskolc" .
Right. I thought this is thread "Road signs showing cities in non-neighbouring foreign countries".

Györ (H), Wien (A), Brno (CZ) -



I thought there is no sign for Budapest, but there is on D4!



Zwardoń (PL) on D3 -



Rzeszow (PL) near Svidník -



Olomouc (CZ) on D1-

btw, I know there are signs with Zlín as a control city too



Český Tešín (CZ) on D3 feeder -



Kraków and Jabłonka (PL) near R3



Actually I don't think there is any sign for Košice in Bratislava (because there are about 4 different routes which you can use), just Žilina -



Wien and Kittsee (A) (I kno it is wrong, they have changed ) on D2 -

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In Spain we used to write only the country, but in the last years we have put signs with foreign destinations in they.
Perpignan signed at the end of A-2 S of Girona.

Guarda is signed in Alaejos, between Valladolid and Salamanca (Alaejos is the point the furthest away from Wellington, NZ). I saw it on a photo here in the forum, unfortunately no Street View.
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Poland: An old habit of only signposting a tiny village on the Polish side of the border, often from hundreds of kilometers out. But I hear that Western Poland now starts to see towns like Berlin and Dresden on signs on the international throughfares. The picture below, however, shows a new road and old habits.
That's not "old habits", but the usual indication of how far the end of Poland is. There're signs for Vilnius when you approach the border.
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