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Old September 2nd, 2012, 01:02 AM   #361
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Are there any countries in the world, which are not islands, which do not have any cities in other countries on their signs? AFAIK even an isolated country like North-Korea should have at least one sign for Seoul.

Located at the northern end of the DMZ

Green sign reads "Seoul 70 km"
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 01:05 AM   #362
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Located in Dandong, China, on the border with North Korea

Yalujiang Bridge is main crossing point into North Korea
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 01:34 PM   #363
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If that's Tervuren on the Flemish side of the road (as GMaps tells me it is), that's not a facilities area. Yes, it's weird that I know that.
Yes I have to stand corrected there. If you look at other facilities areas in Brussels, the situation is much more diverse. In Wezembeek-Oppem, there are "no entry" signs with the bilingual addition that cyclists are exempt, but unilingual directional signs. In Sint-Genesius-Rode, things seem to be completely bilingual. Would need to check elsewhere.

As I mentioned, this is a point where the language laws do not seem to offer a lot of guidance.
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 02:28 PM   #364
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Quite frankly, they should grow up, abolish these ridiculous language laws and get a life together. They can in Switzerland or Luxembourg, so why not in Belgium.
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 05:13 PM   #365
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Quite frankly, they should grow up, abolish these ridiculous language laws and get a life together. They can in Switzerland or Luxembourg, so why not in Belgium.
Because in Switzerland, neither of the two sides was once oppressed by the other side and seen as second or even third class citizens. The language border is the result of Flemish speakers rising against the French speakers and no longer taking opression of their language for granted. But that's offtopic here.
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 05:18 PM   #366
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Is possible to go from North Korea to South Korea or border passes remain closed to traffic?
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 06:43 PM   #367
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Quite frankly, they should grow up, abolish these ridiculous language laws and get a life together. They can in Switzerland or Luxembourg, so why not in Belgium.
Switzerland is linguistically divided too. I mean, you're not going to see tri- (or quadri-) lingual parking regulation signs everywhere; they'll be in French in Geneva and German in Basel.... The boundaries have to fall somewhere.
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 07:02 PM   #368
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Switzerland is linguistically divided too. I mean, you're not going to see tri- (or quadri-) lingual parking regulation signs everywhere; they'll be in French in Geneva and German in Basel.... The boundaries have to fall somewhere.
Well, in border areas signs should be multilingual. Or at least local language + English, so they're also useful for tourists from everywhere.
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 04:54 PM   #369
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The road sign is in Ohrid, Macedonia.
Solun (Thessaloniki), Voden (Edessa) and Lerin (Florina) with MK instead of GR.
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 05:44 PM   #370
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Solun (Thessaloniki), Voden (Edessa) and Lerin (Florina) with MK instead of GR.
That´s cool
But its a interesting thing cause this is not a joke or some kind of a protest sing on a demonstration for or against something but a official roadsign that show´s us that Mecedonians are officialy cool
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Old September 4th, 2012, 12:22 AM   #371
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Strange to see Belgrade written only in English when most people driving from Ohrid to Belgrade are bound to be Macedonian or Serbian.
The new road signs use only English with the International Code for cities outside Macedonia.
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Solun (Thessaloniki), Voden (Edessa) and Lerin (Florina) with MK instead of GR.
Well it's technically true They are in MK
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Old September 4th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #373
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The new road signs use only English with the International Code for cities outside Macedonia.
But once you cross the Serbian border, you'll only see "Beograd" on signs, not "Belgrade".

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Well it's technically true They are in MK
But "MK" is the code of the Republic of Macedonia, not of the Greek Macedonia.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #374
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But once you cross the Serbian border, you'll only see "Beograd" on signs, not "Belgrade".

But "MK" is the code of the Republic of Macedonia, not of the Greek Macedonia.
Those are the old signs. The new signs placed on the Corridor X (E-75) are and will be using the new system.

And yes, MK is the code of Macedonia.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 09:28 PM   #375
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What exactly is the "new system"? Will it correctly identify the country of downroad cities?

Old or new, the sign pictured is disturbing and scary.

As Verso pointed out [and name politics aside], this sign implies that these cities are in the Republic of Macedonia.

And P.S. ...I'm not one who really cares for the name politics, so let's please not go down that road.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 04:44 PM   #376
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What exactly is the "new system"? Will it correctly identify the country of downroad cities?

Old or new, the sign pictured is disturbing and scary.

As Verso pointed out [and name politics aside], this sign implies that these cities are in the Republic of Macedonia.

And P.S. ...I'm not one who really cares for the name politics, so let's please not go down that road.
The new system includes the diagraphic transliteration of the names so you won't see the diacritics on the signs any more and the International Country code next to every European capital which will be only available in English, not in Macedonian. So Belgrade is the English name for Beograd and that's why it is used like that.
About the "MK" code next to Lerin, Solun and Voden, I'm not very sure why did they do that but in Lerin and Voden the majority are Macedonians (ethnic) and the citizens of the Republic of Macedonia have a lot of relatives in the Aegean Macedonia (part of the hellenic republic) so if they put the names as Eddesa or Florina, our citizens wouldn't know which cities they are.
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WOW, the Macedonian road sign is pure political propaganda,provocation and outright illegal.Naming a town of another nation for yours
What will stop them to make the same with the Bulgarian towns Blagoevgrad/Petrich/Sandanski...for which Rep. of Macedonia have claims.

I'm trying to picture this happening in Western Europe between France and Germany or Germany and Austria

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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #378
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The example that came to mind for me was Northern Ireland.
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The example that came to mind for me was Northern Ireland.
Probably there a provocation like this will be deadly
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Actually, I do have a question for anyone who knows the answer:

Does Ireland (the Republic) post Irish/Gaelic versions of place names in the North? (And, more provocatively, do they post "Londonderry" or "Derry"?)
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