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Old September 5th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #381
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I don't know about Irish/Gaelic names, but I'm sure they write "Derry" on their signs.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 09:52 PM   #382
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Below a (West-)German sign that was very much a political statement too. It stood at the former internal border at Helmstedt. Did not go quite as far as adding (D)-shields to it, but the message was clear nonetheless. I'm not sure when they removed it, by the way. Must have been well before the fall of the Berlin Wall ...

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Old September 5th, 2012, 10:04 PM   #383
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Below a (West-)German sign that was very much a political statement too. It stood at the former internal border at Helmstedt. Did not go quite as far as adding (D)-shields to it, but the message was clear nonetheless. I'm not sure when they removed it, by the way. Must have been well before the fall of the Berlin Wall ...
Was possible to travel to those cities back then?
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Old September 5th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #384
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Actually, I do have a question for anyone who knows the answer:

Does Ireland (the Republic) post Irish/Gaelic versions of place names in the North? (And, more provocatively, do they post "Londonderry" or "Derry"?)
There a signs for Beal Feirste (Belfast) on the N1, close to the border, as there are on the M1 further away from the border. They are visible on Maps.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #385
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Actually, I do have a question for anyone who knows the answer:

Does Ireland post Irish versions of place names in the North? (And, more provocatively, do they post "Londonderry" or "Derry"?)

Of course. But we never use the former on our signs, lol. We Irish never recognized it as that name and neither does our government.

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Old September 5th, 2012, 10:53 PM   #386
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Whoever vandalized that sign could at least have capitalized the D.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 11:01 PM   #387
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Maybe of they used the less controversial name (Derry), none of this would happen.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #388
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Oy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry/L...y_name_dispute

There are a Derry and a Londonderry near each other in New Hampshire....
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Old September 6th, 2012, 12:17 AM   #389
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Londond'ry. I think they should rename it back to Derry. It's in the UK anyway, so there's no need to provoke any more.
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Old September 6th, 2012, 01:09 AM   #390
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There is currently street violence in parts of Belfast between Republicans and Loyalists. I presume you are aware of the history regarding the sovereignty issue over those six counties.
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Old September 6th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #391
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This is a highway heading to the Spanish-French border, in the Basque region; the signs just read "France", and do not display any information about neighbouring cities:

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And however, not very far from there, signs on secondary roads do display info about the cities at the other side of the border:

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Old September 7th, 2012, 11:07 AM   #392
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A28 Dreieck Oldenburg-West (D):





After exit Oldenburg - Wechloy:



Source: http://roadgeek.hostzi.com/ (Too bad that Germany hasn't got streetview..)

A28 / N7 Groningen:



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I'm not sure if there is any sign with the distance to Oldenburg at the N7.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #393
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This is a highway heading to the Spanish-French border, in the Basque region; the signs just read "France", and do not display any information about neighbouring cities:
I recall seeing signs on the AP-8 which said Bayonne and Bordeaux (in exonym of course) instead of France, mind you this was 10 years ago or so.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 03:07 PM   #394
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Yes, I think there is, or at least was a sign for Paris as well.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 03:10 PM   #395
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Londond'ry. I think they should rename it back to Derry. It's in the UK anyway, so there's no need to provoke any more.
The BBC tends to use both names alternately to keep both sides happy. I wonder if RTE in Ireland has a similar policy
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Old September 7th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #396
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I recall seeing signs on the AP-8 which said Bayonne and Bordeaux (in exonym of course) instead of France, mind you this was 10 years ago or so.
Yup, they have signed Bayonne (As Baiona, which is the other way round in Galicia, Northwestern Spain) and Bordeaux on E05/E70/E80. But in the other hand, they still sign France at the very last roundabout on A-136, which is already by the border... It's too difficult to write Laruns?
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Old September 7th, 2012, 05:39 PM   #397
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The new system includes the diagraphic transliteration of the names so you won't see the diacritics on the signs any more and the International Country code next to every European capital which will be only available in English, not in Macedonian. So Belgrade is the English name for Beograd and that's why it is used like that.
About the "MK" code next to Lerin, Solun and Voden, I'm not very sure why did they do that but in Lerin and Voden the majority are Macedonians (ethnic) and the citizens of the Republic of Macedonia have a lot of relatives in the Aegean Macedonia (part of the hellenic republic) so if they put the names as Eddesa or Florina, our citizens wouldn't know which cities they are.
Ignoring the part about ethnic Macedonian majority, how can it be logical, since when you enter Greece, Lerin will change to Florina and Voden will change to Edessa? So if they don't know the name, "your citizens" will be lost when they cross the border at Medzitlija/Niki, right? What about Thessaloniki? How come "Belgrade" makes more sense instead of "Beograd" (since Beograd is the same in both Macedonian and Serbian and it's what you will see when you enter Serbia), but the Greek cities have to be signed with their exonym?
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Old September 7th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #398
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Belgrade is called "Belgrad" (Белград) in Macedonian.

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The BBC tends to use both names alternately to keep both sides happy. I wonder if RTE in Ireland has a similar policy
Lol, you're everywhere. The Irish don't have to keep Brits happy since the city is in their/your country anyway.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #399
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Yup, they have signed Bayonne (As Baiona, which is the other way round in Galicia, Northwestern Spain) and Bordeaux on E05/E70/E80. But in the other hand, they still sign France at the very last roundabout on A-136, which is already by the border... It's too difficult to write Laruns?


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This is a highway heading to the Spanish-French border, in the Basque region; the signs just read "France", and do not display any information about neighbouring cities:

[IMG]http://i48.************/1s16k0.png[/IMG]
Plus, it's interesting that "France" is only in Basque, as opposed to both Basque and Castilian.
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