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Old September 12th, 2015, 06:20 PM   #941
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Old September 13th, 2015, 01:06 AM   #942
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It is a doubled sign

(P.bla Sanabria = Puebla de Sanabria, also foreign city)
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Old October 9th, 2015, 11:59 PM   #943
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Tarifa (Spain) -> Tangier (Morocco)



Tangier (Morocco) -> Ceuta (Spain)



Tangier (Morocco) -> Tarifa (Spain)


La Linea (Spain) -> Gibraltar


Not the best pictures, unfortunately...
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Old October 10th, 2015, 12:06 AM   #944
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I put that point in the Spanish "guess the road" thread but... looking to the opposite side.

Approaching Gibraltar you can find this signs on road

https://www.google.es/maps/@36.16188...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Left one "La Linea". Right one "Gibraltar"
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Old January 7th, 2016, 04:58 PM   #945
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One of the rare places in Spain where instead of a neighboring country, the roadsign leads to a specific destination/village/town/city in a neighboring country.
In the Aragon region, to Arette 1st roadsign & second roadsign (when I was there a couple of years ago it was even better as it was "Arette-La Piedra San Martín" for "Arette-La Pierre-Saint-Martin"

In Zaragoza, to Pau.
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Old January 7th, 2016, 06:22 PM   #946
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Zaragoza and Pau have strong links. Maybe that was the reason why, when they started to replace all signs, A-23 was pointed as "Huesca / Pau".

But... sadly, only in city signs (street signs) you will see Pau. After that... only E07, A23 HUESCA. Later "Jaca / PAMPLONA", and finally "Canfranc / Francia" (with capital and non capital letters included).


I think it will be just before Somport tunnel when you will see "Urdos / Pau" with its distances, but just before tunnel only.


Conversely it seems a joke. Departing Pau you have "Saragosse" full of times with distances. You cross border and... the city dissappear. Only Huesca appears and until Huesca you do not know distance to Zaragoza again (if you know, enough to add 72 km but it seems a joke that in France they point main node in that direction even if in another country and far away, and in Spain they point the little province capital only)



About the Roncal road... quite curious. Even Roncal is not in the region but one question... several months ago a new motorway (just severa km only) was built there.

Do they point to Arette too in the exit?

Have not crossed there since one and a half year ago.
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Old February 28th, 2016, 03:43 AM   #947
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Old March 1st, 2016, 09:30 AM   #948
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Off topic, I suppose, but what's the difference between green and white backgrounds? If that were France or the U.K., I'd know that the green parts of the sign gave major destinations and the white less important, but I'm guessing that's not the case here?
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Old March 1st, 2016, 10:14 AM   #949
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Off topic, I suppose, but what's the difference between green and white backgrounds? If that were France or the U.K., I'd know that the green parts of the sign gave major destinations and the white less important, but I'm guessing that's not the case here?
In Austria white means town name and green means something which is not a town name, e.g. a region or a natural object of interest (and blue means a motorway route).
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They use green for points signposted in brown in most other European countries (regions/tourist objects), but also for areas of town and objects which are normally signposted white in neighbouring countries. On the picture, Otztal is a region and Timmelsjoch is the mountain pass into Italy at the end of it.

In terms of colouring hierarchy in Austria: black-on-white is the basic colour for non-motorways. A blue patch refers you to a motorway or expressway, i.e. a route of a higher class. A green patch is worth as little as a brown patch or a white patch elsewhere, i.e. subordinate destinations. In the end, it's a shame that the colour green, which is one of the best colours to use for signposting, is being used for such a subordinate purpose while much less readable black-on-white is the main rule for Austrian non-motorway signs. But well, you have to credit the Austrians for always taking the piss when it comes to their signposting system, as it helps making everyone else feel good.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 04:42 PM   #951
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In Austria they use green backriunds to sign something realy, realy, REALY beautiful like Ötztal, Timmelsjoch, Großglockner or Zagor
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or motorway service areas ...
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Old March 16th, 2016, 06:31 AM   #954
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I sign in Austria(Kötschach-Mauthen)


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Old March 16th, 2016, 02:50 PM   #955
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That's weird to signpost only the name of a not-so-famous border crossing (Ploeckenpass, in Italian is called Passo di Monte Croce Carnico) and not also Udine, that would be a more clear reference for tourists.
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^ It's not a transit road between Udine and some Austrian city, so I think "I" is quite enough. Austrians aren't known for signposting foreign cities reachable over mountain passes anyway. There's no sign for Ljubljana in Klagenfurt either (and it's E652).
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^ It's not a transit road between Udine and some Austrian city, so I think "I" is quite enough. Austrians aren't known for signposting foreign cities reachable over mountain passes anyway. There's no sign for Ljubljana in Klagenfurt either (and it's E652).
It's the most direct link between Udine and Lienz (the "capital" of Osttirol, not to be confused with Linz). It's not a very important international connection (I think more touristic than freight), but surely there is a amount of traffic who follow that route.
Italian signage is much worse, though. In some places near Tolmezzo there's only an "Austria" sign, pointing towards Ploeckenpass. That's very misleading for tourists heading to Villach, Klagenfurt, Salzburg, Graz, Vienna, that would use A23/A2 instead.
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^ Same in Kranj (SLO) where Austria (A) is signposted only towards Völkermarkt, but not towards Villach/Klagenfurt.
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Spital? I thought 'hospital' in German was krankenhaus (literally 'house of sick people'). Maybe it is Austrian German?
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