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Old April 26th, 2006, 08:48 PM   #61
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Old April 27th, 2006, 03:08 AM   #62
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Good Thread, and great Lineup
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Old April 27th, 2006, 03:15 AM   #63
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I know its like a year old, but I think its better than the current thread.
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Old July 11th, 2006, 06:28 AM   #64
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I don't really understand why people would buy land on the bay. You'll have a mob of people going after you if you want to reclaim land from the bay. I think it's stupid.

That seems like a cool idea too me I think that they should build an artificial island off the coast of San Francisco and build on it like in Dubai
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Old July 11th, 2006, 08:01 AM   #65
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That seems like a cool idea too me I think that they should build an artificial island off the coast of San Francisco and build on it like in Dubai
Looks like you bumped this thread up.

Anyway, I would too love it if a huge island was built of the coast of SF, but there are too many regulations and costs to do that.
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Old July 19th, 2006, 04:07 PM   #66
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Universal health care plan approved in San Francisco

Universal health care plan approved in San Francisco (AP)
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The San Francisco Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to make the city the nation's first to provide all residents with health care, approving a plan that would give adults access to medical services regardless of their immigration or employment status.

Financed by local government, mandatory contributions from employers and income-adjusted premiums, the universal care plan would cover the cost of everything from checkups, prescription drugs and X-rays to ambulance rides, blood tests and operations.

The plan, approved Tuesday, would not pay for any services participants seek outside San Francisco. Instead, residents would receive care at existing clinics and public hospitals and from doctors who already participate in an HMO for low- and middle-income clients.

To offset the estimated annual price tag of $200 million (euro159.6 million), firms with 20 or more workers would be required to spend $1.06 (euro.85) for each hour worked by an employee, and those with more than 100 workers would have to pay $1.60 (euro1.28) per hour up to a monthly maximum of $180 (euro143.64) per worker. Companies that already offer health coverage would still have to pay if their insurance contributions did not meet the city's funding levels.

The Board of Supervisors still needs to vote on the plan once more for it to become final.
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Old July 22nd, 2006, 01:33 AM   #67
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Old July 24th, 2006, 03:21 AM   #68
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Nice one San Fran, welcome to the club!
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Old July 27th, 2006, 01:02 PM   #69
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Scientists map miles of underwater dunes

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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — More than 2 square miles of some of the world's largest underwater sand dunes were mapped in the Pacific Ocean off the San Francisco coast as part of a study to help researchers better understand beach erosion.

The submerged dunes, called sand waves, are located just west of the Golden Gate Bridge, measuring more than 30 feet high and 700 feet long, according to researchers with the U.S. Geological Survey.

The sand waves were created by the displacement of sediment by powerful currents rushing through the mile-wide opening between the ocean and San Francisco Bay.

About 500 billion gallons of water move through the opening every six hours, said Patrick Barnard, a coastal geologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, who authored the study released this week with oceanographer Dan Hanes.

"Part of the purpose of our (sand wave) survey was to assess changes in San Francisco Bay in the last 50 years," Barnard said. "We've found the bay has lost a huge amount of sediment since 1956 — approximately 137 million cubic yards."

Researchers first mapped the sand waves with sonar devices two years ago, but new three-dimensional technology has helped them measure their size.


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Old July 28th, 2006, 03:02 AM   #70
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that is cool looking!
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Old July 30th, 2006, 03:12 PM   #71
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interesting Ive always wondered what the land looked like without the water hiding it
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Old August 1st, 2006, 05:04 AM   #72
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It's pretty nifty. Remember the height is exaggerated by alot to see the "3D-ness"
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Old August 14th, 2006, 10:27 PM   #73
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San Francisco's clean energy revolution is here


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San Francisco took a historic step last week toward creating the city's first Green Power Community on the site of the former Hunters Point Naval Shipyard, where developer Lennar BVHP is about to begin construction of more than 1,600 new residential units and retail space. Mayor Gavin Newsom and the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission announced an effort to provide reliable, renewable energy directly to the new residents and businesses there.

Certainly, the effort to bring green power to Hunters Point will be a great benefit to a neighborhood blighted by polluting power plants and toxic industries. But just as important, it is a watershed moment for the city's energy leadership. San Francisco is not just "talking the talk," but taking real action to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels and power our city through clean, renewable energies.

These include:

Hydropower -- Most people don't realize that the pristine water delivered through the Hetch Hetchy water system also generates 20 percent of San Francisco's energy. The SFPUC provides electricity to the city's most vital public services, including S.F. General Hospital, Muni Railway, our schools, fire stations, the airport and streetlights. Decades before global warming focused our attention on reducing emissions, San Francisco developed a renewable source of emissions-free energy.

Solar power -- We are already a national leader in solar energy, with the nation's largest municipal solar facility atop the Moscone Convention Center, as well as major new facilities at the Southeast Wastewater Treatment Plant, the Norcal Recycling Plant at Pier 96, the airport and other locations. A new bill (AB2573) sponsored by Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, will open the door to the development of up to 30 megawatts of new solar projects atop our large reservoirs by 2010. The SFPUC is also moving to adopt the latest solar innovations, such as "thin film solar" technology, which will allow for cheaper, more rapid expansion of our ability to capture the power of the sun.

Biofuels -- Every year, thousands of gallons of oil and grease are dumped by residents and businesses down the drain, blocking sewer lines and creating backups during major rainstorms. Instead, we can collect that grease directly from restaurants and process it to prevent sewer blockages and produce a major source of renewable "biodiesel" for city vehicles. The new SFPUC biofuel program will help the city meet the mayor's challenge to fuel the city's fleet vehicles with biodiesel by late 2007.

Fuel-cell technology -- We are also moving now to convert digester gases at our wastewater-treatment plants into electricity and heat for use onsite. This fuel-cell technology will turn noxious gases that would otherwise be burned and dispersed into the neighborhood into a source of renewable power instead.

Tidal and wave power -- Working with the mayor, the San Francisco Department of the Environment and private organizations such as the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI), San Francisco is exploring the potential of waves and the tides to generate clean power. SFPUC-funded studies show that, with our powerful tides under the Golden Gate and with the mighty waves of the Pacific, San Francisco is in an ideal location to harness a new hydropower -- that of the seas.

Community-choice aggregation -- In the coming months, with the full cooperation of the SFPUC and many clean-energy advocates, the S.F. Board of Supervisors will consider a plan called Community Choice Aggregation that will give city residents and businesses the chance to choose reliable, cleaner, affordable power procured by the city over traditional fossil fuel and nuclear-powered energy delivered by traditional investor-owned utilities. The private sector, too, is getting on board, with the announcement last week that PG&E would dramatically increase development and deployment of renewable energies in California.

A city-powered entirely by clean energy from the sun, wind, water and waste -- what may once have seemed an excerpt from science fiction could well become reality in San Francisco. Certainly, there will be unexpected costs, setbacks and bumps along the road. But the path towards a brighter future of renewable energy is clear. The clean energy revolution is here, and for San Francisco, there's no turning back.

Susan Leal is the general manager of the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission.


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Old August 14th, 2006, 11:50 PM   #74
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San Francisco needs a cost of living revolution and get costs in line with salary, a dump in Oakland will cost you over half a million, it has the highest homeless rate in the country and has the fewest families with children of any major city in the U.S. I just came back from SF, my fiance is from there and I was interviewing, was thinking of relocating there for awhile and when I saw how much the pay VS cost of living was there. For those costs I'd go to Manhattan and live on the east side. Don't get me wrong SF is a beautiful city with wonderful weather, and I expected it to be expensive and actually wouldn't mind it being that expensive if salaries kept up. I told my fiancee there is no way we are starting a family in SF, very nice city though. One must be a millionare to live decent there.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 01:42 AM   #75
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With all the homeless, crazies and less than ideal schools, I wouldn't imagine SF to be the best place to start a family (unless you're a Chinese immigrant?). The high housing costs should be absolutely the only reason not to consider having a family in the Bay Area however, in my opinion.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 02:50 AM   #76
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Thats it, San Francisco is awesome my fiance lives in Castro Valley and I came back home to New Orleans for a few interviews this week, basically if I don't land something here at home in the next few weeks, then i'm coming there for a year or two and save our money, then when the economy bounces back, move back home to NO and buy a home. Since spending time in the bay area for the past few weeks, it has become my 3rd fav city, behind NO and NYC, but definately much better vibe than LA or San Diego, the home prices just need to come down.....and make BART cheaper!!!!!!!!!!! I can go anywhere in NYC 1 way for 2 dollars. Wonderful, unique city I'm from NO so I can appreciate unique. The cost of living either has to go down or salaries for the IT industry must go up.
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Thats it, San Francisco is awesome my fiance lives in Castro Valley and I came back home to New Orleans for a few interviews this week, basically if I don't land something here at home in the next few weeks, then i'm coming there for a year or two and save our money, then when the economy bounces back, move back home to NO and buy a home. Since spending time in the bay area for the past few weeks, it has become my 3rd fav city, behind NO and NYC, but definately much better vibe than LA or San Diego, the home prices just need to come down.....and make BART cheaper!!!!!!!!!!! I can go anywhere in NYC 1 way for 2 dollars. Wonderful, unique city I'm from NO so I can appreciate unique. The cost of living either has to go down or salaries for the IT industry must go up.
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 12:55 AM   #78
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Where will SF high rise boom go from here?

San Francisco's well documented downtown high rise boom, documented in San Francisco magazine, seems like a real 180 degree reversal from the era when tall buildings were blocked from construction in the city.

The pictures of the future skyline with proposed and projected high rises is daunting; SF is acquiring a Chicago/New York type of high rise look.

The question is: where does it all go from here?

Today's building boom is heavily concentrated south of Market in the burgeoning areas of Soma, Mission Bay, Rincon Hill, China Basin. South of Market areas offer a far better local for super towers than north of Market where the hilly terrain can suffer from blocked views with tall structures going up.

Today, San Francisco's greatest concentration of high rises is in the downtown business district, both north and south of Market, and the residential towers of Nob and Russian Hill with a smaller degree in Pac Hts.

Since much of the new construction is in the form of high rise condos, the type of structues that can exist outside the downtown area as well as in it. WHERE WILL NEW HIGH RISE CONSTRUCTION GO OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN....AND HOW WILL THE CITY'S DELIGHTFUL, LOWER SCALED, FOLLOW-THE-TERRAIN-OF-THE-HILLS STREETSCAPE BE AFFECTED???

Will SF go linear and turn the Geary corridor going westward from DT to the Pacific into a NoCal version of Wilshire Blvd?

Would high rises ever be welcomed on the upper eastern slopes of Twin Peaks with the fantastic views they would provide?

Would high rise buildings sprout up in flatter, friendlier locations like the Richmond and Sunset or does the distance of those areas from downtown and the their relatively quieter, less flashy image be a deterent? How about more of a cluster around SF State/Stonestown/Pk Merced

Could the turn around on the city's east waterfront, past China Basin be attractive to high rise construction, perhaps taking advantage of Potrero Hill views?

But about Mission's sunny and relatively flat lands?

Can SF look past the downtown core, allow for high rise clusters and still remain San Francisco? Can SF manage its incredible success without losing its heart and soul?
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 02:16 AM   #79
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For now, high rise condos are being limited exclusively to the areas south of Market St: SoMA, South Beach, some Mission etc. There is a lot of room left for decades of growth so I don't see a need to build up in other neighborhoods. Also, many of the tennants of these new condos work to the south where the real $$ is so the location of these condos makes it easy to get out of the City for work. It's also near the train station...
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Finish the Analogy Part I. Manhattan: Brooklyn: San Francisco: ?

Oakland

It gets better everytime I visit and the attrtactive alternative to living in inhumanely expensive San Francisco is becoming more appealing even if you wouldn't mind paying half a million for a shack.

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The yuppie areas were quite dead in Oakland, but Chinatown was busy wih every visit. I think it speaks volumes without me going into details.

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Old Oakland. The area is beautiful but activity cuts off drastically.

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