Toronto 2024 Olympic Bid - Page 2

koolio · May 30th, 2011, 08:17 PM

Hasn't the Pan Am games hurt torontos chances of hosting an Olympics though? First there was this stadium debacle that was resolve just recently. Secondly the new facilities being built in Toronto are nice and all but would they be recycled for the olympics? The athletes village will be too small where as the aquatic centre will be too utilitarian for the Olympic games. I think Torono should skip out on this.

***Taller, Better*** · May 30th, 2011, 08:36 PM

I'm not 100% convinced, either... it may be a case of us being the patsies who put forth a good bid to give respectability to a selection system that decides beforehand what the winner will be. Also, if the head of the Canadian Olympic Assoc spearheading this is from Quebec City, he may be as lukewarm as Dick Pound was in representing out last bid. Quebec City also has its eye on a future bid, just as Dick Pound had his eye on securing Vancouver's Olympic bid.

casanova · May 31st, 2011, 12:22 AM

I somewhat agree with Taller. Winning an Olympics is much more than having a perfect technical bid. You have to build relations with major officials, sporting federations, and IOC voters. Toronto and Canada as a whole have been working on relations ever since we lost our 2008 bid. I believe we would have full support from South America, the Caribbean, Australia and some European countries that want to bid for 2024 instead and don't want a Euro city winning 2020 (France, Spain, etc.). Toronto also has a lot of work to get those African votes, that's what they need to win it.

AndrewJM3D · May 31st, 2011, 04:54 AM

What if NYC bids again? Or what if Ford gets involved? Bye bye Olympics.

flesh_is_weak · May 31st, 2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

Lima is not 3rd world.

Hopefully we will have a nice waterfront for our bid.

my bad...i guess i need to travel to south america and learn more about the place...i've always thought that they lived in shacks down there...i googled lima and saw that they have a nice downtown, even a shiny scotiabank tower

AndrewJM3D · May 31st, 2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flesh_is_weak

my bad...i guess i need to travel to south america and learn more about the place...i've always thought that they lived in shacks down there...i googled lima and saw that they have a nice downtown, even a shiny scotiabank tower

No worries, the only reason why I called you on it was I googled it back when we were bidding. I thought Toronto was a shoe for the same reasons you did. Now I know better and want to go to Lima. Bogota is nice as well but crazy crime. Caracas is a city about the same size as Toronto in an amazing setting but it has terrible infrastructure. The only city that was no real competition for Toronto was Birmingham Alabama.

OEincorparated · June 1st, 2011, 04:59 AM

South America would be a good choose for the more light skin folks.

koolio · June 1st, 2011, 05:57 AM

I'm pretty sure Lima is indeed considered part of the "third world". Well, actually, nothing is called "third world" anymore but it is certainly part of the developing world.

***desertpunk*** · June 1st, 2011, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

What if NYC bids again? Or what if Ford gets involved? Bye bye Olympics.

NYC won't bid on an Olympics for a very long time, if ever again. Deputy Mayor Dan Doctoroff is gone and what a coincidence, so is the last person there who cared about hosting the games.

isaidso · June 1st, 2011, 11:03 AM

I'm usually very supportive of Olympic bids, but I'm leery of spending $1 billion on a new athletics stadium when Toronto can't even fill the smaller stadium it has now. Toronto is not a city in need of an 80,000 seater, but that's what it would take to win a bid.

Diesel_Power · June 1st, 2011, 04:57 PM

I'm in absolutely no rush to see Toronto get the summer Olympics.

This city seriously still needs to build up it's infrastructure and public transit before we should consider another bid.

Filip · June 1st, 2011, 10:18 PM

Toforumer over on UT says rumours are the COC will be having a formal announcement in late July on Toronto 2020!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Diesel_Power

I'm in absolutely no rush to see Toronto get the summer Olympics.

This city seriously still needs to build up it's infrastructure and public transit before we should consider another bid.

Usually that happens hand in hand with a successful bid. Our competition for now looks like only Rome. Probably one of the few western European cities with worse infrastructure than ours.

Marcanadian · June 1st, 2011, 11:12 PM

If we win the Olympics, Ford's dream of bringing the NFL here may come true.

Filip · June 2nd, 2011, 01:15 AM

We'll we'd have the stadium...

If the COC announces a formal bid in late July as rumoured, I will party!

***Taller, Better*** · June 2nd, 2011, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filip

Toforumer over on UT says rumours are the COC will be having a formal announcement in late July on Toronto 2020!!!!!!!

Usually that happens hand in hand with a successful bid. .

Absolutely. One of the biggest benefits of having the Olympics is all the Federal money poured into transit. The winning city gets a cool billion from the IOC right off the bat to kick start things.

koolio · June 2nd, 2011, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by desertpunk

NYC won't bid on an Olympics for a very long time, if ever again. Deputy Mayor Dan Doctoroff is gone and what a coincidence, so is the last person there who cared about hosting the games.

Also with the new Meadowlands Stadium already complete, there really is little benefit of hosting the games. I remember the renderings for the proposed Olympics stadium that would have been the future home of the Jets. To be honest, I was hoping NYC would host the games just so that stadium would become a reality. Looked pretty awesome.

isaidso · June 2nd, 2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcanadian

If we win the Olympics, Ford's dream of bringing the NFL here may come true.

We already have a football team, the oldest on the continent. The NFL can go to Mexico City: there's no domestic league there and support for football is much higher than it is in Toronto. Toronto can't even fill a 50,000 seater for football.

Marcanadian · June 2nd, 2011, 11:19 PM

I know, the NFL doesn't stand a chance in Toronto in terms of attendance. But the presence of an Olympic stadium would attract the NFL moreso than they are today, but it'll still fail.

Mollywood · June 3rd, 2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Filip

We'll we'd have the stadium...

If the COC announces a formal bid in late July as rumoured, I will party!

But Filip, I thought this city was broke. We can't keep spending money on unnecessary things like The Olympics, bridges or festivals. That's just more gravy and in a city as poor as we are, gravy is a luxury. Get with the program people. We are POOR and we need to live within our means. Don't go getting big ideas about spending money we don't have. We ain't London or NYC, you know. We's just poor old Toronto.

Innsertnamehere · June 3rd, 2011, 01:29 AM

aren't Olympics generally funded by the federal government though?

May 30th, 2011, 08:17 PM	#21
koolio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,781 Likes (Received): 309	Hasn't the Pan Am games hurt torontos chances of hosting an Olympics though? First there was this stadium debacle that was resolve just recently. Secondly the new facilities being built in Toronto are nice and all but would they be recycled for the olympics? The athletes village will be too small where as the aquatic centre will be too utilitarian for the Olympic games. I think Torono should skip out on this. __________________ Victoria, Canada

May 30th, 2011, 08:36 PM	#22
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,788 Likes (Received): 399	I'm not 100% convinced, either... it may be a case of us being the patsies who put forth a good bid to give respectability to a selection system that decides beforehand what the winner will be. Also, if the head of the Canadian Olympic Assoc spearheading this is from Quebec City, he may be as lukewarm as Dick Pound was in representing out last bid. Quebec City also has its eye on a future bid, just as Dick Pound had his eye on securing Vancouver's Olympic bid. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

May 31st, 2011, 04:54 AM	#24
AndrewJM3D Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,028 Likes (Received): 15	What if NYC bids again? Or what if Ford gets involved? Bye bye Olympics. __________________ Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’

June 1st, 2011, 05:57 AM	#28
koolio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,781 Likes (Received): 309	I'm pretty sure Lima is indeed considered part of the "third world". Well, actually, nothing is called "third world" anymore but it is certainly part of the developing world. __________________ Victoria, Canada

June 1st, 2011, 11:03 AM	#30
isaidso the new republic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The United Provinces of America Posts: 18,895 Likes (Received): 451	I'm usually very supportive of Olympic bids, but I'm leery of spending $1 billion on a new athletics stadium when Toronto can't even fill the smaller stadium it has now. Toronto is not a city in need of an 80,000 seater, but that's what it would take to win a bid. __________________ World's 1st Baseball Game: June 4th, 1838, Beachville, Ontario, Canada North America's Oldest Pro Football Teams: Toronto Argonauts (1873) and Hamilton Tiger Cats (1869) I started my first photo thread documenting a recent trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Have a peek: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=724898

May 31st, 2011, 12:22 AM	#23
casanova Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 88 Likes (Received): 0	I somewhat agree with Taller. Winning an Olympics is much more than having a perfect technical bid. You have to build relations with major officials, sporting federations, and IOC voters. Toronto and Canada as a whole have been working on relations ever since we lost our 2008 bid. I believe we would have full support from South America, the Caribbean, Australia and some European countries that want to bid for 2024 instead and don't want a Euro city winning 2020 (France, Spain, etc.). Toronto also has a lot of work to get those African votes, that's what they need to win it.

June 1st, 2011, 04:59 AM	#27
OEincorparated Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,026 Likes (Received): 5	South America would be a good choose for the more light skin folks.

June 1st, 2011, 04:57 PM	#31
Diesel_Power Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oakville, ON Posts: 502 Likes (Received): 0	I'm in absolutely no rush to see Toronto get the summer Olympics. This city seriously still needs to build up it's infrastructure and public transit before we should consider another bid.

June 1st, 2011, 11:12 PM	#33
Marcanadian Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,676 Likes (Received): 67	If we win the Olympics, Ford's dream of bringing the NFL here may come true. __________________ Toronto - Southwest England - London - Chicago - Vancouver - Banff National Park - Montréal - Ottawa

June 2nd, 2011, 01:15 AM	#34
Filip Torontonian 4ever Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,191 Likes (Received): 19	We'll we'd have the stadium... If the COC announces a formal bid in late July as rumoured, I will party!

June 2nd, 2011, 11:19 PM	#38
Marcanadian Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,676 Likes (Received): 67	I know, the NFL doesn't stand a chance in Toronto in terms of attendance. But the presence of an Olympic stadium would attract the NFL moreso than they are today, but it'll still fail. __________________ Toronto - Southwest England - London - Chicago - Vancouver - Banff National Park - Montréal - Ottawa

June 3rd, 2011, 01:29 AM	#40
Innsertnamehere insertoronto Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,958 Likes (Received): 17	aren't Olympics generally funded by the federal government though?

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