Toronto 2024 Olympic Bid

[Intoronto1125]

Here is a venue plan proposed by myself:

Archery - Toronto - E.T.Seton Park (temporary) 6,000

Athletics - Toronto - Olympic Stadium - 90,000

Badminton - Direct Energy center Hall B - 7,000

Basketball - Toronto - Air Canada Center - 20,000

Boxing - Toronto - Direct Energy center Hall C - 7,000

Canoeing (sprint) - Toronto - Canoe/Rowing center - 20,000

Canoeing (slalom) - Toronto - New stadium downtown (temporary) - 6,000

Cycling (Road) - Toronto - Road course - N/A

Cycling (Track) - Toronto - Velodrome/Multi sport center - 6,000

Cycling (BMX) - Toronto - Where ever they build it for the 2015PAG - 5,000

Cycling (Mountain) - Toronto - Don Valley race course (temporary) - 6,000

Diving - Toronto - Toronto Aquatic Center - 25,000

Equestrian - Toronto - Toronto Equestrian Stadium (temporary) - 15,000, eventing at Will O wind Farm in Mono.

Fencing - Toronto - Metro Toronto Convention center 8,400

Field hockey - Toronto - Olympic Field hockey centre 15,000 (temporary)

Football - Toronto, Hamilton, Ottawa, Montreal - BMO Field (23,000) Rogers Center (50,600) Olympic Stadium (90,000), Ivor Wynne Stadium (40,000) and Frank Clair Stadium (40,000), Olympic Stadium Montreal (70,000)

Golf - Toronto - St. George's Golf and Country Club - N/A

Gymnastics - Toronto - Direct Energy center Hall A - 20,000 (Art/Tramp) (Ry) Direct Energy center Hall B - 7,000

Handball - Toronto - Ricoh Coliseum - 11,500

Judo - Toronto - Metro Toronto Convention center - 9,500

Modern Pentathlon - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Center/Field house and Toronto Equestrian Stadium - 6,000/6,000/15,000

Rowing - Toronto - Canoe/Rowing center - 20,000

Rugby sevens - Toronto - Rogers Center - 50,600

Sailing - Royal Canadian Yacht Club - Toronto - N/A

Shooting - Olympic Shooting Center /E.T.Seton Park (temporary) - Toronto - 6,000/6,000

Swimming - Toronto - Toronto Aquatic Center - 25,000

Synchronized swimming - Toronto - Toronto Aquatic Center - 25,000

Table tennis - Direct Energy center Hall D - 7,000

Taekwondo - Toronto - Metro Toronto Convention center - 9,500

Tennis - Toronto - Rexall Center@ York university - 12,000

Triathlon - Toronto - Exhibition Place Race course (temporary) - 10,000

Volleyball - Toronto - Volleyball arena York University (reduced to 2,000 after games) - 12,000, Direct Energy center Hall A - 20,000 (finals) Beach volleyball stadium Ontario Place 10,000 (temporary)

Water Polo - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Centre (6,000, expansion back to Pan Am Level, then reduced)

Weightlifting - Toronto - Molson Ampitheatre - 11,000

Wrestling - Toronto - Velodrome/Multi sport center - 6,000

All venues (besides football) are located in the city and are all accessible by transit by 2020! Very good bid probably the best technical bid possible.

All venues are downtown except volleyball, tennis, shooting, archery, bmx, modern pentathlon and mountain biking. Equestrian eventing will be the only venue besides football outside the city proper.

[ChesterCopperpot]

I can't see soccer being played at the Olympic stadium

[George_D]

is there going to be a Toronto Aquatic Center??

[ChesterCopperpot]

Yes - for the 2015 Pan Am games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_...nd_Field_House

[George_D]

Originally Posted by ChesterCopperpot

Yes - for the 2015 Pan Am games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_...nd_Field_House

Τhis is Pan Am and Parapan Am Aquatics Centre and Field House not Toronto Aquatics center of 25,000 seats mentioned above

[Intoronto1125]

Originally Posted by ChesterCopperpot

I can't see soccer being played at the Olympic stadium

Only for the medal games. At every Olympic with the athletics stadium being the largest stadium (ie 2004 and 2008) the Olympic Stadium was the venue for the medal games.

[Intoronto1125]

Originally Posted by George_D

is there going to be a Toronto Aquatic Center??

Only if the Olympics are won. I listed something that was proposed for 2008.

[Dmerdude]

2024 will be the 100th anniversary for Paris. I'd say it's highly likely they will get the games.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Dmerdude

2024 will be the 100th anniversary for Paris. I'd say it's highly likely they will get the games.

People said the same thing about the 100th anniversary for Athens, but they didn't get it.

[George_D]

At the same logic in 1928 there must be in Amsterdam and in 1932 in los angeles, and in 1936 in berlin

[Intoronto1125]

Originally Posted by Dmerdude

2024 will be the 100th anniversary for Paris. I'd say it's highly likely they will get the games.

If Athens couldn't due it then I don't think Paris would win because of that reason alone. Though Paris is a strong candidate.

[Dmerdude]

You guys mean 1996? Athens / Greece probably wasn't ready then, and Atlanta probably had a much stronger candidacy.

[George_D]

Originally Posted by Dmerdude

You guys mean 1996? Athens / Greece probably wasn't ready then, and Atlanta probably had a much stronger candidacy.

We based our bid only in 100th anniversary and that IOC would vote for us only for this. We hadn't any facilities ready except the stadium and only a big indoor arena. Athens didn't had metro at that time, not even new big airport. In 2004 we had metro and new airport and almost 50% of venues ready, including the olympic complex

[Dmerdude]

Originally Posted by George_D

We based our bid only in 100th anniversary and that IOC would vote for us only for this. We hadn't any facilities ready except the stadium and only a big indoor arena. Athens didn't had metro at that time, not even new big airport. In 2004 we had metro and new airport and almost 50% of venues ready, including the olympic complex

That's the point. Unlike Athens, Paris will probably be ready AND it will have the sentimental value.

Having said all of that, Olympics in Toronto would be awesome, its just that 2024 is sooo far away.

[Intoronto1125]

What do you all think of the proposed venue plan?

[isaidso]

Not bad, but I can't see soccer finals being played at the main athletics stadium. Athletics usually takes up the last week and culminates with the marathon finish line within the main stadium.

[George_D]

I put only the events i have different opinions.

Archery - Toronto - Varsity Stadium 5,000

Basketball - Toronto - New Olympic indoor arena - 14,000/Air Canada Center (finals)- 20,000

Cycling (Track) - Toronto - Velodrome at Milton - 3,000 maybe expanded during SOG

Diving - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Centre - 10,000

Equestrian - Toronto - Toronto Zoo

Field hockey - Toronto - Pan Am Field Hockey Centre 5,000

Handball - Toronto - Ricoh Coliseum - 8,500/New Olympic indoor arena(finals)- 14,000

Judo and Wrestling - Toronto - Direct Energy center Hall A - 10,000

Swimming - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Centre - 10,000

Synchronized swimming - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Centre - 10,000

Water Polo - Toronto - Temporary water polo pool near Olympic stadium (6,000)

Gymnastics - Toronto - Air Canada Center - 20,000

Volleyball - Toronto - No suggestion yet, Maybe in Markham arena if it is going to be bulit

[Intoronto1125]

Originally Posted by isaidso

Not bad, but I can't see soccer finals being played at the main athletics stadium. Athletics usually takes up the last week and culminates with the marathon finish line within the main stadium.

It happened in Beijing and Athens. It is just one gold medal game that needs to be played. The women's match can be played elsewhere and the bronze medal games happen at the smallest stadium.

[Intoronto1125]

Originally Posted by George_D

I put only the events i have different opinions.

Archery - Toronto - Varsity Stadium 5,000

=Excellent Idea

Basketball - Toronto - New Olympic indoor arena - 14,000/Air Canada Center (finals)- 20,000
-Volleyball has a new arena so what will the rest of the time be used for ACC. I think basketball can be fully held at ACC

Cycling (Track) - Toronto - Velodrome at Milton - 3,000 maybe expanded during SOG

-It can't be expanded beyond 3,000 far to small to host. Its about 50 mins away as well, so no

Diving - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Centre - 10,000
Diving worked well with swimming in London no reason to change. Max seating is 6,000 as well.

Equestrian - Toronto - Toronto Zoo
Interesting concept ! would eventing be held here too? The zoo would be transit served by 2024 I believe

Field hockey - Toronto - Pan Am Field Hockey Centre 5,000
5,000 is way too small for the Olympics. By looking at the Pan am plans the area will not have room for expansion, hence a need for new stadium

Handball - Toronto - Ricoh Coliseum - 8,500/New Olympic indoor arena(finals)- 14,000
I agree with Ricoh but finals should be ACC

Judo and Wrestling - Toronto - Direct Energy center Hall A - 10,000
I think the venues I proposed are fine.

Swimming - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Centre - 10,000
Too small; New venue needed

Synchronized swimming - Toronto - Pan Am Aquatic Centre - 10,000
Too small; New venue needed

Water Polo - Toronto - Temporary water polo pool near Olympic stadium (6,000)
Pan American aquatic venue can be used.

Gymnastics - Toronto - Air Canada Center - 20,000
Disagree. Basketball is a potential big ticket item in Toronto so largest arena should be for it.

Volleyball - Toronto - No suggestion yet, Maybe in Markham arena if it is going to be bulit
The new temporary/reduced seating arena at York University is a good option, but tbh as a student there, I don't think there really is any space there to build such an arena. But by doing so it would create a cluster with tennis so both sports wouldn't be isolated.

I think the equestrian idea is worth pursuing. It is an excellent idea.

[George_D]

Originally Posted by Intoronto1125

The new temporary/reduced seating arena at York University is a good option, but tbh as a student there, I don't think there really is any space there to build such an arena. But by doing so it would create a cluster with tennis so both sports wouldn't be isolated.

York Athletics Stadium is also there (14.000) and can be expanded for Olympics to host some football matches.