Toronto 2024 Olympic Bid - Page 4

metroboi_nay · June 23rd, 2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

You do know that we're getting a GO train line U/C right now to the airport.

Yes I do. A subway would be better though. This will be like London Express $18 probably vs a $3 subway ride.

Marbur66 · June 23rd, 2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by metroboi_nay

Yes I do. A subway would be better though. This will be like London Express $18 probably vs a $3 subway ride.

$18 for a GO train ride from Union to Pearson? Highly doubtful....

metroboi_nay · June 23rd, 2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Marbur66

$18 for a GO train ride from Union to Pearson? Highly doubtful....

Time will tell, but I'm pretty sure it's suppose to be around the same price or more as the Airport Express bus they have now running. It ain't cheap.

***Taller, Better*** · June 23rd, 2011, 07:06 PM

No, it will not be cheap. They gave an estimate a few years ago and I was floored. I will definitely stick to the subway/Rocket bus.

koolio · June 23rd, 2011, 10:21 PM

How expensive was it? If it is anything more than $10, it would be an instant failure.

***Taller, Better*** · June 24th, 2011, 08:09 AM

It was so long ago I can't remember... but it seemed ridiculously high. Wayyy more than ten bucks one way. Maybe double that.

Filip · June 24th, 2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Taller, Better

It was so long ago I can't remember... but it seemed ridiculously high. Wayyy more than ten bucks one way. Maybe double that.

It was supposed to be $20 one way from Union to Pearson or vice versa.

rbt · June 24th, 2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by koolio

How expensive was it? If it is anything more than $10, it would be an instant failure.

Most major companies, including the dozens of banks and legal offices downtown, have a policy of their staff taking the train over a cab when available.

Today they take a $50 cab. It's damn near impossible to actually expense a TTC ride due to a lack of a receipt, not to mention the time cost is severe.

The target is 5000 riders per day and I don't think that will be difficult to achieve at a $25 to $30 price point to a frequent business class train that never gets stuck in traffic.

My favourite example was when SBC executives came to visit my employer. They flew in on a private aircraft, landed at Pearson (fairly large), climbed in the limo we sent them, and nearly instantly got stuck in traffic.

That was their only visit and all meetings after that were held in other offices. That firm no longer has any employees in Toronto; many were relocated.

Highway congestion and day-tripping business men with power to make real decisions are why we need, and are building, a reliable business class airport train.

Yes, build Eglinton out to T1's basement and add Woodbine as a regular GO stop on the Georgetown line with all day hourly or better service; but none of that removes the need for a reliable and frequent business class transport form of some kind. HOV/toll lanes on Gardiner would do just as well provided the toll was steep enough to keep it uncongested.

koolio · June 24th, 2011, 06:44 PM

Wow ok ... that is a definite fail.

casanova · July 5th, 2011, 04:51 AM

Munich, Annecy or Pyeongchang? Who do you think will win the 2018 Winter Olympics? The winner will have an effect on who will bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics.

allurban · July 5th, 2011, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Filip

It was supposed to be $20 one way from Union to Pearson or vice versa.

$22 actually. The train was going to be called "Blue 22" because of the length of the trip (22 minutes) and some wise soul must have suggested that they match the ticket price to the trip length. Good for accounting, I suppose.

Cheers, m

Filip · July 5th, 2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by casanova

Munich, Annecy or Pyeongchang? Who do you think will win the 2018 Winter Olympics? The winner will have an effect on who will bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics.

I hope it's Munich. Not only is their bid excellent, but as a city it will make an amazing host for its second Olympics. Pyeongchang is a small-fry gamma city in South Korea where its difficult to even find decent pictures of the place! It's like the Lake Placid of the Koreas.

Also, that will effectively eliminate any competition from Rome or Madrid.

flesh_is_weak · July 5th, 2011, 10:17 AM

PyeongChang FTW lol

A good friend of mine works for one of the largest sports booking agencies in Korea and he promised me free tickets for events in PC 2018 : )

Plus, Germany's hosted far too many games anyway...and for the the winter Olympics and winter sports to thrive, it will be wise to tap into the growing eastern market...after all, you and I both know that the west is in decline while the east is on the rise

Filip · July 5th, 2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by flesh_is_weak

PyeongChang FTW lol

A good friend of mine works for one of the largest sports booking agencies in Korea and he promised me free tickets for events in PC 2018 : )

Plus, Germany's hosted far too many games anyway...and for the the winter Olympics and winter sports to thrive, it will be wise to tap into the growing eastern market...after all, you and I both know that the west is in decline while the east is on the rise

Far too many? Berlin and Munich are the only ones. That's less than Canada with significantly more people.

There's a reason why Munich has the upper hand; it's an actual city with things to do, you know? Kinda like why Vancouver was so successful as a WOG host. Big city, but with the mountains to support a bid. From what I read, PyeongChang is this third rate village up in the Korean mountains far from everything. That's why it consistently lost its bids... It's like Lake Placid.

flesh_is_weak · July 5th, 2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Filip

Far too many? Berlin and Munich are the only ones. That's less than Canada with significantly more people.

There's a reason why Munich has the upper hand; it's an actual city with things to do, you know? Kinda like why Vancouver was so successful as a WOG host. Big city, but with the mountains to support a bid. From what I read, PyeongChang is this third rate village up in the Korean mountains far from everything. That's why it consistently lost its bids... It's like Lake Placid.

Okay, I guess I was wrong about Germany hosting too many Olympics...but Europe in general already did...I think it's time to give more 'exotic' locales a shot

And about being a small village, well that shouldn't be a problem, Korea is a small country the size of Southern Ontario (with way better transportation infrastructure) so the games will never be too far from major urban centres

***Taller, Better*** · July 5th, 2011, 07:13 PM

Well, competition is not exactly stiff to host the Winter Olympics, as they cost big bucks and the return is small. Therefore cities that have previously hosted them and have the infrastructure in place make the best candidates. I can guarantee you one thing; whoever wins the bid won't be silly enough to spend as much money as Canada did.

flesh_is_weak · July 5th, 2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Filip

Far too many? Berlin and Munich are the only ones. That's less than Canada with significantly more people.

There's a reason why Munich has the upper hand; it's an actual city with things to do, you know? Kinda like why Vancouver was so successful as a WOG host. Big city, but with the mountains to support a bid. From what I read, PyeongChang is this third rate village up in the Korean mountains far from everything. That's why it consistently lost its bids... It's like Lake Placid.

Okay, I guess I was wrong about Germany hosting too many Olympics...but Europe in general already did...I think it's time to give more 'exotic' locales a shot

And about being a small village, well that shouldn't be a problem, Korea is a small country the size of Southern Ontario (with way better transportation infrastructure) so the games will never be too far from major urban centres

Nouvellecosse · July 5th, 2011, 11:03 PM

"That's why it consistently lost its bids... It's like Lake Placid."

If being like Lake Placid rules a place out as a contender, then how did Lake Placid win?

And on an unrelated note, how did FIW manage to have a double post over an hour apart with TB posting in between? Kinda weird?

Filip · July 5th, 2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

"That's why it consistently lost its bids... It's like Lake Placid."

If being like Lake Placid rules a place out as a contender, then how did Lake Placid win?

And on an unrelated note, how did FIW manage to have a double post over an hour apart with TB posting in between? Kinda weird?

It was 1980...

Marcanadian · July 6th, 2011, 05:42 PM

Pyeongchang, South Korea won the bid for the 2018 Winter Olympics.

Toronto is in a fantastic position now. Tokyo is running for 2020, but I don't think they'll give two Olympic games in a row to Asia.

June 23rd, 2011, 07:06 PM	#64
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June 24th, 2011, 08:09 AM	#66
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,856 Likes (Received): 309	It was so long ago I can't remember... but it seemed ridiculously high. Wayyy more than ten bucks one way. Maybe double that. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

June 24th, 2011, 06:44 PM	#69
koolio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 259	Wow ok ... that is a definite fail. __________________ Victoria, Canada

July 5th, 2011, 07:13 PM	#76
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,856 Likes (Received): 309	Well, competition is not exactly stiff to host the Winter Olympics, as they cost big bucks and the return is small. Therefore cities that have previously hosted them and have the infrastructure in place make the best candidates. I can guarantee you one thing; whoever wins the bid won't be silly enough to spend as much money as Canada did. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

July 5th, 2011, 04:51 AM	#70
casanova Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 88 Likes (Received): 0	Munich, Annecy or Pyeongchang? Who do you think will win the 2018 Winter Olympics? The winner will have an effect on who will bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics.

July 5th, 2011, 10:17 AM	#73
flesh_is_weak Oberste Richter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canadian Northwest Passage Posts: 1,350 Likes (Received): 0	PyeongChang FTW lol A good friend of mine works for one of the largest sports booking agencies in Korea and he promised me free tickets for events in PC 2018 : ) Plus, Germany's hosted far too many games anyway...and for the the winter Olympics and winter sports to thrive, it will be wise to tap into the growing eastern market...after all, you and I both know that the west is in decline while the east is on the rise

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Nouvellecosse ~ Mysterious Entity ~ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Halifax, N.S. Posts: 3,588 Likes (Received): 24	"That's why it consistently lost its bids... It's like Lake Placid." If being like Lake Placid rules a place out as a contender, then how did Lake Placid win? And on an unrelated note, how did FIW manage to have a double post over an hour apart with TB posting in between? Kinda weird?

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Marcanadian Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,672 Likes (Received): 55	Pyeongchang, South Korea won the bid for the 2018 Winter Olympics. Toronto is in a fantastic position now. Tokyo is running for 2020, but I don't think they'll give two Olympic games in a row to Asia. __________________ Toronto - Southwest England - London - Chicago - Vancouver - Banff National Park - Montréal - Ottawa

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