daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on one

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Continental Forums > North American Skyscrapers Forum > Metropolis & States > Toronto

Toronto » High-Rise Developments | Low-Rise Developments | Development Archive | Toronto Transit


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old June 15th, 2011, 07:57 PM   #121
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

Scrapping Transit City 'short sighted': Miller

Scrapping Transit City 'short sighted': Miller

Criticizes provincial government
CBC News Posted: Jun 15, 2011 7:19 AM ET


Former Toronto Mayor David Miller says the repeal of his Transit City light rail plan is "remarkably short sighted" and "sad."

Miller made the remarks in an interview with CBC's Metro Morning on Wednesday one day after he was appointed the Future of Cities Global Fellow by the Polytechnic Institute of New York University, which is based in Brooklyn. He said his role there will be to help engineers understand their solutions to urban issues mesh with the public policy context in which they are operating.

Miller also broke from his self-imposed silence on Toronto political issues since leaving office late last year, and was blunt in his assessment of the decision to strike down the Transit City light rail plan, which envisioned a system of light rail lines crossing the city.

'As a resident of Toronto, if I want to go to Finch, I go to Finch. I don't go to Kentucky Fried Chicken.'
— Former mayor David Miller"That's one decision that I think is so remarkably short sighted," he said.

"The people know it. All the polls show across Toronto people understand that to take a transit plan that took 30 years to develop, that was ready to go, that had its environmental assessments done, that literally started construction in one place is not only sad, it's not very smart either."

Miller singled out the provincial government in particular for criticism.

The Liberals announced in their 2010 budget they would be delaying delivery of $4 billion to regional transportation agency Metrolinx, which was tasked with implementing the light rail plan. That move had the effect of pushing back the timeline for the construction of a number Transit City lines.

"And it's not just the city government. You know, the premier slowed [Transit City] down while I was still the mayor and if he hadn't, there would have been three lines underway, they all would have all been under construction, they all had approval, they all had the money," he said.

'I'm a citizen'
The Ontario government has agreed to go forward with a new transit plan put forward by Mayor Rob Ford in which the $8.2 billion allocated to construction of Transit City would be funneled toward putting the Eglinton Crosstown light rail line underground.

The city would then find its own financing for a $4.2 billion extension of the Sheppard subway line.

Miller also rejected the idea floated by the mayor's brother Doug of selling naming rights of subway stations to corporate sponsors in order to raise money for the TTC.

"As a resident of Toronto, if I want to go to Finch, I go to Finch. I don't go to Kentucky Fried Chicken," he said.

In another dig at the current administration, Miller also criticized Ford's repeated usage of the word "taxpayer" when describing residents of the city.

"No, I'm a citizen. I'm a citizen of this city," he said.

"Citizenship is a different relationship with government. It's not purchasing a service. Government is about us working together to build a city for the future."





After reading this do any of you think Ford will be asked by a large University in one of the worlds largest cities to teach engineers onsolutions to urban issues??
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
 
Old June 15th, 2011, 07:59 PM   #122
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

Casa Loma may have to be sold: Mayor Ford

Casa Loma may have to be sold: Mayor Ford



Mayor also 'furious' about Leafs practice rink takeover
CBC News Posted: Jun 15, 2011 10:06 AM ET Last Updated: Jun 15, 2011

Supporting Story ContentStory Sharing ToolsShare with Add ThisPrint this storyE-mail this story.End of Supporting Story ContentBack to accessibility links Beginning of Story ContentToronto Mayor Rob Ford says the historic Casa Loma property will eventually have to be sold, saying it's time for the city to stop assuming risk in business deals with service groups.

City council on Tuesday agreed to adopt the recommendations of a staff report that called for the city to regain control of Casa Loma from the Kiwanis Club, which has operated the historic castle since 1937.

"I'm definitely going to be reviewing that. Casa Loma is something that I think we are eventually going to have to sell. That's the bottom line," he said Tuesday.

The Casa Loma decision isn't the only takeover Ford now opposes.

On Monday a staff report recommended the city assume operation of Lakeshore Lions Arena, a four-pad rink in Etobicoke that the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Marlies use as a practice facility.

Along with that takeover comes $43.5 million in debt accumulated by the current operators of the arena.

The city has guaranteed $35.3 million of its debt, and if the operators default, the city would be on the hook for that amount. As an eventual default appears likely, one of the few options left is to assume control of the facility, the report said.

"I'm furious about that. It's completely mismanaged. I voted for it and I regret doing that," Ford said.

The recommendation will be debated at council's executive committee on June 20.
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 08:21 PM   #123
Taller, Better
Administrator
 
Taller, Better's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 52,823
Likes (Received): 302

not smart.
__________________
Please visit my photoblog!
Montréal | Mexico | Niagara-on-the-Lake | Brazil | Hamilton aka "The Hammer"!
"Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.
Taller, Better no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 09:47 PM   #124
Filip
Torontonian 4ever
 
Filip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9,257
Likes (Received): 16

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D View Post
Scrapping Transit City 'short sighted': Miller

Criticizes provincial government
Haha! BITE ME EX MAYOR MILLER!!!!!!!
Filip no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 09:53 PM   #125
jje10001
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 319
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Filip View Post
Haha! BITE ME EX MAYOR MILLER!!!!!!!
Actually I'm pretty happy the Transit City got cancelled. We now have the Eglinton subway and with no improvements in transit in the suburbs (hopefully cuts to the far-flung suburbs)*, hopefully the worsening traffic conditions can push other modes of transportation like bicycling and shift the population towards the downtown core/inner city.


* Sheppard doesn't count, since it won't get built.
jje10001 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 10:00 PM   #126
Filip
Torontonian 4ever
 
Filip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9,257
Likes (Received): 16

Quote:
Originally Posted by jje10001 View Post
Actually I'm pretty happy the Transit City got cancelled. We now have the Eglinton subway and with no improvements in transit in the suburbs (hopefully cuts to the far-flung suburbs)*, hopefully the worsening traffic conditions can push other modes of transportation like bicycling and shift the population towards the downtown core/inner city.


* Sheppard doesn't count, since it won't get built.
I don't know if you're trying to single me out here, but I don't live in the suburbs. I'm a 20 min bike ride from Union Station.

All that's going to do is further make the suburbanites resentful. Remember, there's more of them than there are of inner city hippie dippies; which means more people like Ford will get elected.
Filip no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 10:51 PM   #127
jje10001
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 319
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Filip View Post
I don't know if you're trying to single me out here, but I don't live in the suburbs. I'm a 20 min bike ride from Union Station.

All that's going to do is further make the suburbanites resentful. Remember, there's more of them than there are of inner city hippie dippies; which means more people like Ford will get elected.
I'm not- I know you live in a relatively transit-accessible part of Etobicoke.

I'm pointing out the bright side of the consequences of Ford's decision. Resentful or not, that's what they might get for voting for him.
jje10001 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #128
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by jje10001 View Post
Sheppard doesn't count, since it won't get built.
How true is that. But now we have no transit city (until Tory) and no new transit plan under our idiot mayor.
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 11:05 PM   #129
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

Once again, feel free to post a glowing article about our current idiot at the helm. you can even use the SUN as it seems it's the only paper that supports him. It's at about his reading level, lots of pictures to.

I suppose City TV, the Globe and Mail, CBC News, the Star, and the National Post are all run by PINKOS.
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2011, 11:30 PM   #130
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

Toronto Sun for Kids and Fordies

MILLER LANDS AT AMERICAN UNIVERSITY

It ain’t the United Nations or the Clinton Climate Initiative.





I went looking for a Pro Ford clip and saw this. What paper uses "ain't" ? Also while I had the Sun page open a coworker walked by and said "Andrew, tell me you don't read that garbage do you?" LOL. I am in the CBC building though so should have expected that.


To Sun media - No it ain't the United Nations or the Clinton Climate Initiative, but it's a lot better then Ford will ever do. A person needs vision to get a job like that.
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 04:00 AM   #131
Marcanadian
Registered User
 
Marcanadian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9,665
Likes (Received): 55

Just some of the childish crap that goes on at city council:







Stop wasting time and get things done. This council is so embarrassing. Worrying about a lost pig? Maybe it morphed into Rob Ford? Why are we spending time on this crap?
Marcanadian no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 04:47 AM   #132
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

When did Mammoliti wake up and decide he was going to be Rob Fords bitch? This guy is the biggest kiss ass with no spine that I've ever seen in city hall. No other Italian would let somebody call him a Gino Boy then grovel at his feet after, nobody.
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 05:35 AM   #133
Filip
Torontonian 4ever
 
Filip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9,257
Likes (Received): 16

Quote:
Originally Posted by jje10001 View Post
I'm not- I know you live in a relatively transit-accessible part of Etobicoke.

I'm pointing out the bright side of the consequences of Ford's decision. Resentful or not, that's what they might get for voting for him.
I've been getting more and more annoyed with some of Ford's ideas such as scrapping Waterfront Toronto, selling Casa Loma and selling naming rights of subway stations, but my main reason for initially supporting him was to torpedo Transit City. Now that it's done, I'm feeling underwhelmed.

His electorate is mainly middle class suburbanites. They couldn't give a rat's ass about better transit in their far flung suburbs. It's the poorest of the poor living on the outer rims of Toronto (Rexdale, Jane/Finch, Scarberia) who will feel it. Ford doesn't care about them, and I can tell you neither did Miller or anyone before them. Words are great and all, but until there's tangible work being done, it remains a lot of hot air.
Filip no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 05:53 AM   #134
jje10001
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 319
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Filip View Post
I've been getting more and more annoyed with some of Ford's ideas such as scrapping Waterfront Toronto, selling Casa Loma and selling naming rights of subway stations, but my main reason for initially supporting him was to torpedo Transit City. Now that it's done, I'm feeling underwhelmed.

His electorate is mainly middle class suburbanites. They couldn't give a rat's ass about better transit in their far flung suburbs. It's the poorest of the poor living on the outer rims of Toronto (Rexdale, Jane/Finch, Scarberia) who will feel it. Ford doesn't care about them, and I can tell you neither did Miller or anyone before them. Words are great and all, but until there's tangible work being done, it remains a lot of hot air.
Ah, a single issue voter. You should really know that a mayor really is responsible for an entire city, not a single part of it- the relative prosperity of Toronto is not immune to Ford's tampering.

As for the suburbs, the middle class suburbanites will also suffer- road traffic does not discriminate against only the poor. In the next election, if Ford continues to ignore those in the poor, far-flung suburbs, they will vote against him, as they did with Miller.
jje10001 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 06:37 AM   #135
Marcanadian
Registered User
 
Marcanadian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9,665
Likes (Received): 55

Why is there such an uproar about selling Casa Loma? The city just took it over literally a few days ago from the Kiwanis Club, which was doing an awful job at restoration and management. I agree the city should keep ownership, but if there's a company with a decent plan to fix the place up and make it profitable, I don't see why not to hand it over to them.
Marcanadian no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 06:43 AM   #136
Taller, Better
Administrator
 
Taller, Better's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 52,823
Likes (Received): 302

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D View Post
[B][SIZE="5"]





I went looking for a Pro Ford clip and saw this. What paper uses "ain't" ? .
Well, that's the Sun for you!
__________________
Please visit my photoblog!
Montréal | Mexico | Niagara-on-the-Lake | Brazil | Hamilton aka "The Hammer"!
"Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.
Taller, Better no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 07:09 AM   #137
Гроф
Grof
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 316
Likes (Received): 18

Quote:
Originally Posted by Filip View Post
I've been getting more and more annoyed with some of Ford's ideas such as scrapping Waterfront Toronto, selling Casa Loma and selling naming rights of subway stations, but my main reason for initially supporting him was to torpedo Transit City. Now that it's done, I'm feeling underwhelmed.

His electorate is mainly middle class suburbanites. They couldn't give a rat's ass about better transit in their far flung suburbs. It's the poorest of the poor living on the outer rims of Toronto (Rexdale, Jane/Finch, Scarberia) who will feel it. Ford doesn't care about them, and I can tell you neither did Miller or anyone before them. Words are great and all, but until there's tangible work being done, it remains a lot of hot air.
Ah, well, kinda, but... Miller did care a bit. Transit City did dickety-all for the old city, minus a small part of Eglinton, which is basically getting cut in the new 'edition', but is functionally the same line. TC was far from perfect, but we were never, ever going to have subways going through suburban arterials. It made zero sense. We replaced an imperfect, but implementable plan that had funding with no plan at all. It's not progress.

Overall, good luck to Toronto, I think it will need it. I'm generally disenchanted with municipal government in this country, though; it's incredible just how shallow the political talent bench is all over the map.
Гроф no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 07:21 AM   #138
Marcanadian
Registered User
 
Marcanadian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9,665
Likes (Received): 55

Toronto: The 11th province.
Marcanadian no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 08:06 AM   #139
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Filip View Post
my main reason for initially supporting him was to torpedo Transit City. Now that it's done, I'm feeling underwhelmed.

Ford doesn't care about them, and I can tell you neither did Miller or anyone before them. Words are great and all, but until there's tangible work being done, it remains a lot of hot air.

Funny, Millers Transit City plan that was 15 years in the making would have helped out a lot of poorer people in the outer burbs. They can just stick to crowded buses under Fords single subway system.
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 16th, 2011, 08:11 AM   #140
AndrewJM3D
Registered User
 
AndrewJM3D's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,016
Likes (Received): 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcanadian View Post
Why is there such an uproar about selling Casa Loma? The city just took it over literally a few days ago from the Kiwanis Club, which was doing an awful job at restoration and management. I agree the city should keep ownership, but if there's a company with a decent plan to fix the place up and make it profitable, I don't see why not to hand it over to them.
I think most are upset because the Ford goons are looking to sell anything to keep their tax cuts and subway promise. He's selling it to cover his ass. As tax payers that building belongs to you and me. Not every thing has to be profitable, some things just cost money to run but give back in more ways then financial profits. Places like Boston are full of city owned buildings that are free to the public to use and visit.
__________________
Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’
AndrewJM3D no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.1.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2013 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2013 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. (Resources saved on this page: MySQL 23.08%)

SkyscraperCity - In Urbanity We Trust

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu