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Old January 9th, 2017, 10:36 PM   #2181
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Hey, that is unfair! The Frankfurt reconstruction and building of 15 reconstructions and 25 local newbuilds do not cost 180 mill. That money was for tearing down the concrete monster. Moving everything inside away. That needed to be done anyway, because that building was in a bad shape. The 180 Mill went to underground parking for all of downtown included other neighborhoods but also to build the "Stadthouses", a series of seven buildings for meetings and art shows.

(To be evil here, the costs of the project are not included in the 180 Mill.)
The cost of 180 Mill is way, way more than needed and spend for something different. It should be around 35 to 40 Mill. Paid private by the way.



And the Stadtschloss in Berlin: That includes an underground station, by the way. For the U-bahn. Subway.
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Old January 24th, 2017, 06:32 PM   #2182
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Has work slowed due to the winter weather?
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Old January 26th, 2017, 09:51 AM   #2183
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Has work slowed due to the winter weather?
It appears so, Darryl. I don't know what's happening inside, but exterior work on the palace has stopped because of the cold. Freezing temperatures retard hydration of cement and cause disruptive expansion of wet concrete, and it's been cold in Berlin these past two weeks or so, with daily highs in the 20s and low 30s Fahrenheit - too cold for masonry work. There's also the human element - who wants to work outdoors with cold brick, stone, and concrete in freezing temperatures?

As happened last year, exterior work will resume once the weather warms.
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Old January 26th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #2184
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nice project!
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Old January 26th, 2017, 04:40 PM   #2185
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Construction Methods

The rule of thumb in construction is that you don't pour concrete or use mortar unless the outside temperature is above freezing and rising. I feel sure that this accounts for the reason that work on the exterior of Stadtschloss has stopped for the present.

By the way, and I may be among the few who feels this way, the brick and stone combination as it is really looks good. In my opinion, they could skip adding the stucco to the exterior walls and it would still be a fine looking building.
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Old January 26th, 2017, 07:37 PM   #2186
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I wonder if they are doing any interior work.
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Old January 28th, 2017, 02:16 AM   #2187
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It appears so, Darryl. I don't know what's happening inside, but exterior work on the palace has stopped because of the cold. Freezing temperatures retard hydration of cement and cause disruptive expansion of wet concrete, and it's been cold in Berlin these past two weeks or so, with daily highs in the 20s and low 30s Fahrenheit - too cold for masonry work. There's also the human element - who wants to work outdoors with cold brick, stone, and concrete in freezing temperatures?

As happened last year, exterior work will resume once the weather warms.
Thanks JustinHerman. I was assuming this was the reason.
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Old January 28th, 2017, 02:20 AM   #2188
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By the way, and I may be among the few who feels this way, the brick and stone combination as it is really looks good. In my opinion, they could skip adding the stucco to the exterior walls and it would still be a fine looking building.
I agree! I had said this as well earlier in the thread. I like the contrast of the darker brick with the lighter stone decoration. It would look nice left like that without adding the stucco and painting it all the same color.
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Old January 28th, 2017, 03:40 AM   #2189
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Kinda like the Union League of Philadelphia:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...k1.HwHfVJ0_0H0

Or the Dorilton in NYC:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...q=dorilton+nyc
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Old January 28th, 2017, 10:55 PM   #2190
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Old January 29th, 2017, 01:08 PM   #2191
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Some more Pics from yesterday since there is some sunshine on weekend in Berlin.









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Old February 3rd, 2017, 10:13 PM   #2192
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Are they also going to rebuilt these little towers?

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Old February 5th, 2017, 02:15 AM   #2193
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Are they also going to rebuilt these little towers?

https://postimg.org/image/xv2dr0p7x/
If enough donations come in.

At the moment, they are far back on the to do list of reconstructions.
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Old February 8th, 2017, 07:20 PM   #2194
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Color Me Curious

The people working on the new sculptures seem to have a lot of fragments and even large portions of the originals from which to work. Was there an archeological "dig" to recover these or were they salvaged by the Communists when they destroyed the remains of the original structure? Just curious.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 02:51 AM   #2195
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The rule of thumb in construction is that you don't pour concrete or use mortar unless the outside temperature is above freezing and rising. I feel sure that this accounts for the reason that work on the exterior of Stadtschloss has stopped for the present.

By the way, and I may be among the few who feels this way, the brick and stone combination as it is really looks good. In my opinion, they could skip adding the stucco to the exterior walls and it would still be a fine looking building.
Not really, in Canada we pour concrete all year, after -15c you need a tarp, below -20 you put lime or something in the mix, yesterday was -27c and they were pouring a high rise plate with tarps and heaters. Berlin comes nowhere near the cold threshold to stop pouring concrete unless it's a union stipulation. I agree it would suck being outside in the cold, but in cold climates we do it half the year.

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Old February 9th, 2017, 10:28 PM   #2196
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By the way, and I may be among the few who feels this way, the brick and stone combination as it is really looks good. In my opinion, they could skip adding the stucco to the exterior walls and it would still be a fine looking building.
Like in Stockholm:
https://www.google.de/search?sa=G&hl...w=1366&bih=696
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Old February 11th, 2017, 12:54 AM   #2197
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Old February 11th, 2017, 12:54 AM   #2198
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Nice weather today
Things were developing a lot the last months an now you can get an idea of how the area will look like in the future.

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Old February 11th, 2017, 02:06 AM   #2199
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OMG they're working on the Bauakademie!
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Old February 12th, 2017, 11:05 AM   #2200
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OMG they're working on the Bauakademie!
Sorry but no. These are works for a residential builiding next to the Bauakedemies dummy.

But i am sure there will be a solution pretty soon.
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