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Old February 17th, 2017, 07:10 PM   #2201
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Pouring Concrete

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Not really, in Canada we pour concrete all year, after -15c you need a tarp, below -20 you put lime or something in the mix, yesterday was -27c and they were pouring a high rise plate with tarps and heaters. Berlin comes nowhere near the cold threshold to stop pouring concrete unless it's a union stipulation. I agree it would suck being outside in the cold, but in cold climates we do it half the year.
Durden: Good to know about how to pour concrete in cold weather there in Canada. The Germans must not be doing that as there doesn't seem to be any construction in progress on the exterior of the building at this time.
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Old February 20th, 2017, 10:50 PM   #2202
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They finished with concrete long ago.
The mortar in the brick wall is in need of one year for drying due to the thickness of the wall. The contractors are busy inside. They are in time with all



Fun fact: The first all concrete building of the last millennia (without Roman Empire) was build by the Mannesmann (Machinery plant owners) brothers Germany in the 1920`s?
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Old February 21st, 2017, 12:53 AM   #2203
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Even the modern facade looks quite nice!
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Old February 23rd, 2017, 05:47 AM   #2204
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Am I the only one who's not impressed by that unification memorial design??
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Old February 25th, 2017, 05:12 PM   #2205
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Am I the only one who's not impressed by that unification memorial design??
Yes. It's horrible, I don't get why so many historical reconstructions need modernist crap plunked right in front. There are many other places that "art" could have gone.
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Old February 26th, 2017, 02:11 PM   #2206
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Yes. It's horrible, I don't get why so many historical reconstructions need modernist crap plunked right in front. There are many other places that "art" could have gone.
Well, I'm not even bothered about a modernist/contemporary memorial if it's good. I like contemporary architecture/design, but that design is ugly and underwhelming. The memorial to unification should be better. It should be very striking, iconic, and memorable. That design doesn't cut it. Thumbs down. :-(
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Old February 26th, 2017, 09:30 PM   #2207
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German Unity Memorial Design

I thought that someone said here that that awful "bomb fragment" design of a memorial had been scrapped and would no longer be built. Is there any further news from Berlin on this? We would never get any update on this sort of thing here in America.
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Old February 27th, 2017, 05:32 PM   #2208
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Back to Work

It must have warmed up enough for them to go back to work on the new building. I see from the web camera that men are now (Feb 27) working on the exterior of the structure for the first time in several weeks.

Are they doing something to the river channel that runs in front of the building? It looks like something is happening there from the same web camera views.
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Old March 4th, 2017, 08:49 PM   #2209
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I thought that someone said here that that awful "bomb fragment" design of a memorial had been scrapped and would no longer be built. Is there any further news from Berlin on this? We would never get any update on this sort of thing here in America.
Madness step one:
Yes, there are problems with the design, like wheelchair accessibility, dogs getting squeezed and what not. But the real big thing is that 80% of the Berliner have a problem with it. Some like it because it is hip and cool for five years or so, because it is designed to swing and it golden, new and shiny. But most don`t like the design and some like it, but like it build at a different location. The location is a big problem. The unification has nothing to do with this location.

Madness step two:
Now the build has been canceled. It would have become more expansive and the public does not support it. (Only 20% or so support)

But now the question come up is of what to do at its place? Many people like the original Unification Memorial rebuild of 1896. It was a memorial of the unification of 1871. Build and finished 1896. Most people would like it rebuild partly, at least. The communists had it destroyed after it had survived the war with no damage!
Now the Government on the Federal level canceled the "Fruit bowl" and put financing of the colonnades in place. Only the colonnades. The different fountain project is in the finances included.

Madness step three:
Election in the province/state of Berlin. Not the city hall level. The state level. Berlin is also its own City State. The conservatives have won the election. Like the federal, like on the city level. But now the democratic left/socialists have formed an coalition with the former communists and the green party. Therefore, they have more seats.

The communists have become the city building department. The state of Berlin owns the land around the Schloss. They now fore sudden refuse the money. The only money they take is for the "Bauakademie" (The square building). Not the other structures.
Some communist leaders (Police has already some files about them, for example encouraging teens to fire expansive cars) are maybe still on drugs. There are open statements that Berlin should adopt economic policies from Venezuela. (The country in witch zoo staff has to eat the zoo animals to survive) Anyway, it says in the coalition papers that the city has become
and I quote: "too expansive for the locals and the only way to fix it is to become less successful."
Furthermore: "Beautifications could make Berlin gain population and tourists, therefore that should be avoided!" (quote)

By the question of how to rescue the economy after its destruction on purpose the three smart parties are planning to run a deficit.

Quote Margaret Thatcher comes to mind: "The problem the left faces is this: They sooner or later run out of other peoples money!"

Most people in Berlin are either speechless, or embarrassed. That is why we hear nothing in this thread about that. In the meantime the bookkeepers are running bets of how long the coalition will last.
The courts are already in action, because some plans are already violating some laws. Stay tuned.......
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Old March 5th, 2017, 01:32 AM   #2210
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I've been stalking this thread for a while now, I thought I should finally register so I could comment.

I absolutely love seeing this building being rebuilt, even with it's modern interiors, it's still incredible it's even happening. Like most, I don't love the cement block rear end of the building, but you have to take wha you can get I suppose.

I was disappointed learning that none of the original interiors were being rebuilt. I can't say without seeing the final product, but in my imagination it feels like it would be a jarring feeling to see this amazing old baroque exterior, then walking inside the front doors to smooth, flat, modern walls etc.

I wonder if anyone here could tell me about the sculptural figures that adorn certain places along the exterior. I know there are many angels and cherub type figures, but there also seem to be other figures that I know little or nothing about. I'm assuming many are mythological or allegorical figures, but that's about as much as I can guess. I know Neptune was originally the centrepiece of the large fountain. Who are the figures along the castle bridge? What do they represent? What about the original men holding the reigns of the horses on blocks in the front of the building?

I live in Canada, so unfortunately I don't get to go see this up close, and there's very little information about it here, but maybe I'll plan a trip to Berlin when it's completed.
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Old March 5th, 2017, 01:44 AM   #2211
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Old March 7th, 2017, 06:35 PM   #2212
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Most people in Berlin are either speechless, or embarrassed. That is why we hear nothing in this thread about that. In the meantime the bookkeepers are running bets of how long the coalition will last.
The courts are already in action, because some plans are already violating some laws. Stay tuned.......
Gee, and I thought that we had problems with political parties pursuing trivia for the sake of trivia. Sounds like we are not alone. Thanks to "Eagle" for the clarification.
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Old March 11th, 2017, 08:09 PM   #2213
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Fun fact: The first all concrete building of the last millennia (without Roman Empire) was build by the Mannesmann (Machinery plant owners) brothers Germany in the 1920`s?
That's not true, I don't know what building can be considered as the first reinforced concrete building ever, but the first one in Paris date from 1892 (1 rue Danton)
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Old March 18th, 2017, 02:41 AM   #2214
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In this picture there are buildings of three different german states in one place. Maybe it helps to understand the hybrid charakter of the humboldt forum.

Tell me if you know a similar place elsewhere in this world.
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Old March 30th, 2017, 07:03 PM   #2215
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Love watching the Humboldt Forum webcam. It looks like the stone work will be done on the south side Friday. I expect stuccoing will start soon. Does anyone know when? Will the stucco have the color infused or will they then have to paint the stucco? Thanks.
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Old March 31st, 2017, 02:25 PM   #2216
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I've been enjoying near daily visits to the webcam too and as you rightly say all the stonework now appears to be in place for the south front which is great news. Externally it's just the upper parts of the two portal facades on the north side, the apex of the west portal and the dome to go, can't wait for the day that scaffolding finally comes down!

I was also wondering about the stucco finish, they could certainly start some of the south side now though I wonder if they'll wait until all exterior is structurally complete first as a completely separate phase. I'm guessing the colour will be applied with paint, it will be interesting to see how well the finished result matches the mock-ups we've seen thus far.
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Old March 31st, 2017, 06:55 PM   #2217
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As of of today the south facade of the City Palace is structurally finished. The last parts of the balustrade were put in place today.


http://cam03.berlinerschloss-webcam.de/

A couple of months later it will be plastered and painted.
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Old March 31st, 2017, 08:27 PM   #2218
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It also looks like cladding of the dome base has started recently
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Love watching the Humboldt Forum webcam. It looks like the stone work will be done on the south side Friday. I expect stuccoing will start soon. Does anyone know when?
Will the stucco have the color infused or will they then have to paint the stucco? Thanks.






End of April is the date when they start to plaster/putz the first sections. The stucco will have beige/yellow infused,
because that will last way longer, comes cheaper and looks better.

Could look like this:




Or like this:



Maybe like this?



We will see.



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Old April 9th, 2017, 02:44 AM   #2220
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I like the light cream in the second pic. I hope it doesn't turn out to be yellow.
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