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Old August 17th, 2017, 12:58 AM   #2361
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Thank U very much!I think it would be great if the Rossebaendiger could go back to the Lustgarten afterall they belong there!
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Old August 17th, 2017, 10:51 PM   #2362
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Are the turrets at the ends of the roof of the Westfassade coming back or not?
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Old August 18th, 2017, 07:01 PM   #2363
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Are the turrets at the ends of the roof of the Westfassade coming back or not?
This question has been asked again and again in this forum, and each time the answer has been a disappointing NO. The turrets are not in the current plans for the palace, but that does not mean they won't be reconstructed at some point in the future. I certainly hope they are.
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Old August 20th, 2017, 09:02 PM   #2364
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Construction Progress

Currently, I can't detect any work in progress on the exterior of the building. Some places, like the portals on the north side, they seem to have just stopped wherever they were in their work. Maybe, the workmen are enjoying that old European custom of the August vacation.
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Old August 21st, 2017, 02:16 PM   #2365
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Currently, I can't detect any work in progress on the exterior of the building. Some places, like the portals on the north side, they seem to have just stopped wherever they were in their work. Maybe, the workmen are enjoying that old European custom of the August vacation.
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Old September 5th, 2017, 05:42 PM   #2366
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Work Resumed

I think that I was right. The work has resumed on the exterior in at least four different locations. The August vacations must be over for the workmen.
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Old September 10th, 2017, 12:55 AM   #2367
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I think that I was right. The work has resumed on the exterior in at least four different locations. The August vacations must be over for the workmen.
Good Joe, I hated to see you so stressed out!
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Old September 18th, 2017, 07:31 PM   #2368
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Progress???

I'm not stressed. However, I am a little surprised. On big jobs like this one it is common practice in America to have penalties for not completing work on time but it is also common to have bonuses for completing early. If the exterior work is finished ahead of schedule, we would normally expect to see work start on the stucco now, not wait until it is scheduled in October or whenever it calls for it in the plan. This hardly looks like traditional German efficiency.
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Old September 19th, 2017, 04:06 AM   #2369
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I'm not stressed. However, I am a little surprised. On big jobs like this one it is common practice in America to have penalties for not completing work on time but it is also common to have bonuses for completing early. If the exterior work is finished ahead of schedule, we would normally expect to see work start on the stucco now, not wait until it is scheduled in October or whenever it calls for it in the plan. This hardly looks like traditional German efficiency.


It is alright Joe! All is sunshine!
After noticing that there is no update, I will jump in for that.
About Your question: The works are on schedule, actually they are two weeks ahead. The same counts for the money. The stucco/Putz can and will not be applied for the cause of drying the massive wall. The drying out of all mortar moisture will take 12 months, preferable more. There is exterior stone work in good progress, as you will see in the following pictures.........enjoy!

Portal 6 looking to portal 2 on the inside



The masonry works are coming
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Old September 19th, 2017, 04:21 AM   #2370
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The crown above portal IV is close to be finished;




The cupola is moving mostly inside. The outside became a load of stone, too;




This is portal II looking to the inner portal IV


Between portal II and IV inside will look like this:




The stone masons are laying stone on the portals inside, that is why we saw little movement


This is portal III. The windows are coming in;


And our ugly duckling;


This building on the left will get a facelift next. I do not know if the roofline gets reconstructed:







pictures from APH member Vulgow, thanks!
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Old September 20th, 2017, 05:37 PM   #2371
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Thank you

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Thank you for all of the photos. Great update on progress on the palace. It's wonderful to have access to this level of detail about the project.
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Old October 2nd, 2017, 11:51 PM   #2372
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I'm not stressed. However, I am a little surprised. On big jobs like this one it is common practice in America to have penalties for not completing work on time but it is also common to have bonuses for completing early. If the exterior work is finished ahead of schedule, we would normally expect to see work start on the stucco now, not wait until it is scheduled in October or whenever it calls for it in the plan. This hardly looks like traditional German efficiency.
Joe, I was just having a little fun with you. I think the European model for building is so different than ours it is hard to comprehend. For one thing, in Germany at least, you have to learn the skills and do an apprenticeship in construction. They don't just let any old body build thigs. I think there is a different mindset. When I look at even pretty ordinary buildings in Germany from the 19th century there is far more monumentality built into them than anything from that time period in our country. so obviously costs and efficiency aren't the only considerations and never were. This particular project is being built for the ages so I guess the things we would think are important in constructing a commercial building in the U.S. i.e. fast and cheap, just don't apply here.
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 03:28 AM   #2373
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it's shaping up now
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Old October 9th, 2017, 04:43 PM   #2374
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I don't like that modern look
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Old October 9th, 2017, 08:37 PM   #2375
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How will the landscape be treated at the edge of the river? I feel like that will make a huge difference in the overall view.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 07:16 AM   #2376
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How will the landscape be treated at the edge of the river? I feel like that will make a huge difference in the overall view.
Good question. Yes, what is the plan for the river frontage next to the ugly modern side of the Stadtschloss? Will there be steps down to the water? Will there be room for a "plaza" type space? Will there be landscaping? Fountains? Sculpture? Benches?

I mean we're stuck with the ugly fašade. Will the ground level by the water at least be pleasant?
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Old October 11th, 2017, 09:54 AM   #2377
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And our ugly duckling;

The ugly duckling grew up to be a swan. I'm not so sure about this one.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 10:00 AM   #2378
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What was one side of the building left like that?
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Old October 11th, 2017, 11:38 AM   #2379
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Personally I don't think it's that bad to be honest.

It's of course not as majestic like the fully ornamented baroque sides but it kind of mirrors the situation in lots of German cities with a sharp contrast between historic buildings which either survived the carpet bombing in WW2 or were restored or even reconstructed and the post war buildings, often standing directly adjacent.

I personally really like these contrasts as I find them interesting and also reflecting history. As an example in Cologne you have the beautiful St. Aposteln and directly next to it a beautiful building from the 1950's.
Link: https://www.google.de/maps/@50.93690...7i13312!8i6656

Certainly, many post-war buildings were built in a hurry and due to the nature of the reconstruction in the bigger cities there was not much time nor money to rebuild everything or build in a fancy way, but there are some fine examples nonetheless.
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