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Old July 8th, 2013, 01:03 AM   #301
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Do they have any plans to re-do the facade of this building? It just looks really awful to see the historical portal surrounded by this 90s type warehouse cladding.
It's a modern building. The old part is actually from the palace. It's the balcony where Karl Liebknecht proclaimed the German Free Socialist Republic on the 9th of November 1918. That's why the communist *******s kept that part while destroying the rest of the building.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 01:06 AM   #302
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I love the reconstruction, but I'm so disappointed in three things:

1) The ugly modern facade
2) The absolutely hideous memorial instead of a reconstruction of the old one
3) The fact it's going to be a museum of Africa and non-European art. That just doesn't fit the history and architecture of the building. I think such a museum is important to have, but not in the royal palace! This should be a museum of Prussian/German history!
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Old July 8th, 2013, 01:43 AM   #303
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I think the intention is to bring the contents of Dahlem facilities to a more central location. After all, the Ethnological Museum of Berlin is one of the best of the World.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 01:19 PM   #304
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there is allready the german historical museum etc.

They special want non-european art inside there, as symbol of an free country and an place of the dialoge bethween different culture.

The modern fassade looks on some of the new visualizations terrible, i know, but i think this modern facade wouldnt be that grey.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #305
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It's a modern building. The old part is actually from the palace. It's the balcony where Karl Liebknecht proclaimed the German Free Socialist Republic on the 9th of November 1918. That's why the communist *******s kept that part while destroying the rest of the building.
Seeing as that's the one and only portion of the original Königliche Schloß that's still intact, and still on location on the Museumsinsel, I think they should remove that porta from that horrible modern building and re-integrate it into the new Schloß. Otherwise, it will look bizarre -- a new Schloß with reconstructed portals, and an "extra" portal on a building just beside it.

Then, they could re-clad that modern building in a different way (or better still, get rid of it and rebuild something more traditional on its site).
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Seeing as that's the one and only portion of the original Königliche Schloß that's still intact, and still on location on the Museumsinsel, I think they should remove that porta from that horrible modern building and re-integrate it into the new Schloß. Otherwise, it will look bizarre -- a new Schloß with reconstructed portals, and an "extra" portal on a building just beside it.

Then, they could re-clad that modern building in a different way (or better still, get rid of it and rebuild something more traditional on its site).
The Staatsratsgebäude isn't that bad and as one of the first prestigious modern buildings in the GDR following the "nationale Bautradition" or stalinism architecture, it is listed as a monument itself.
Besides it won't be possible to see the old Portal IV ("Liebknecktportal") and the new one at the same time unless you are able to look through walls. Portal IV originally stood on the other side of the Schloß facing the Lustgarten and will do so again.
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There is something I didn't understand from my limited abilities of reading Germany: will the Dahlem museums on the homonym district close? Will all of its exhibitions be moved to the Humboldt Forum, including that of the Museum of Asian Art?
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I think the intention is to bring the contents of Dahlem facilities to a more central location. After all, the Ethnological Museum of Berlin is one of the best of the World.
It is a great museum, but not appropriate for this building.
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The Staatsratsgebäude isn't that bad and as one of the first prestigious modern buildings in the GDR following the "nationale Bautradition" or stalinism architecture, it is listed as a monument itself.
Besides it won't be possible to see the old Portal IV ("Liebknecktportal") and the new one at the same time unless you are able to look through walls. Portal IV originally stood on the other side of the Schloß facing the Lustgarten and will do so again.
To each his own. I find the Staatsratsgebäude to be one of the ugliest buildings in Berlin, worse even than most modernist monstrosities. It's so plain and ugly, with that dull orangey color, and the portal affixed to its front, off center, looks ludicrous, like some kind of malfunction.

If they have to have modernist buildings, at least they should keep them outside the city center.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #311
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Here you allready can see the first courtyyard of the castle, where the machine planes the cementground and where they allready beginning to set a new cran.

this one will stand until the framing is standing:











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It's such a massive construction site! Can't wait to see some walls going up, except those facing the Spree of course...
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Really makes you appreciate the effort that went into building this without modern technology and modern materials - Wow! Vielen Dank fur das Bild!
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Totally amazing !!! Left me speechless.Cant wait to see this awesome Schloss to be rebuilt and its one of the reasons I'm going to visit Berlin after it's fertig This is how all nations should treat their history
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Old July 12th, 2013, 01:19 PM   #316
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end 2014......are you shure ?
or perhaps a new scandal in coming like stuttgart rail station, elbphilarmonie and berlin airport.
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i am sure, you allready can see, how fast they are. Thats the "official plan".

Its not an airport, an opera, or an realwaystation with tunel, etc.

lot more easier and less parties involved.
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Wow. Since the reconstruction is, in fact, not so difficult, and will proceed so quickly, they really could have tacked on just a few extra months and rebuilt the Spree facade properly (historically), instead of resorting to that horrible, flat, modernist, warehouse-like face.
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I am positively surprised that it actually came to a re-building of the Schloss, after Mrs. Merkel said it could have no priority in times of economic crisis.
It constitutes a huge, single piece in the overall ressurection of historical Berlin. Still, the eastside of the Spree remains a no-go zone for those having a sentimanetal attitute to all of the city which was lost through the war.
The open mall idea behind the post-war park between the Schloss and the TV-tower is aesthetically unsuccessful and would be better replaced by a fuller reconstruction of the pre-war city east of the Spree.
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