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Old July 8th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #21
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FFS stop living in the past and look to the future!!!!! yes it was tragic what happened but things have moved on and it's 2011 not 1939 anymore." It will look great when rebuilt "

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Old July 9th, 2011, 10:03 PM   #22
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FFS stop living in the past and look to the future!!!!! yes it was tragic what happened but things have moved on and it's 2011 not 1939 anymore." It will look great when rebuilt "
Preserving and rebuilding history, particularly those aspects of history which were tragcially and unnecessarily lost, is not the 'living in the past' mental problem you seem to align it with. Looking to the future is fine if the future holds things better than history has delivered. In the case of architectural and city planning jewels, the modernist buildings and neighborhoods hold very little long term value or staying power. Far more people jam the roads to see and photograph the Frauenkirche in Dresden than the Sony building in Berlin.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 02:06 AM   #23
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I love historic architecture and also love the modern!! all i meant was that the people where just going on and on about the war and not concentrating on the rebuilding of this beautiful building. "It will be a great assett to the city of Berlin"
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Old July 10th, 2011, 04:38 AM   #24
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How well are the buildiong in Dresden reconstructed? What I mean is do they look like they used to are they washed down because the masonry was to complicated and stuff like that.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 05:31 AM   #25
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You can see the progress of Dresden reconstruction project here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...p=20&page=1000

Here is a detailed ground view of the Stadtschloss as it was before:
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Some past views:

First courtyard (Eosanderhof):

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Second courtyard (Schlüterhof) Both paintings are by Eduard Gaertner.

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How it would look when finished:



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Following pictures from Welt Online

From Unter den Linden


Schlüterhof


Aerial view


From north, with Stella's facade. (comparison)


Ground view


Full set of pictures: http://www.welt.de/kultur/article498...te-Plaene.html
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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:57 PM   #26
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:44 PM   #27
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I just hope they're gonna rebuild the dome.
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Again, NO WAR DISCUSSIONS or anything else unrelated to the Humboldt-Forum project in here!
I'll delete the posts and ban/brig people if necessary. Cordial thanks for noticing.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 04:28 PM   #29
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I still can't understand why anyone would think having one shitty postmodern side would ever be a good idea.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 04:42 PM   #30
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I can't wait to see it
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Old July 11th, 2011, 07:16 PM   #31
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I still can't understand why anyone would think having one shitty postmodern side would ever be a good idea.
It is hard to comprehend. No integreation whatsoever with the other three sides. I assume it's an architect's idea to link the interior with the exterior.

Will any of the former grand rooms be recreated such as the White Hall, Throne Room and grand staircase?
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Old July 12th, 2011, 01:06 AM   #32
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It is hard to comprehend. No integreation whatsoever with the other three sides. I assume it's an architect's idea to link the interior with the exterior.

Will any of the former grand rooms be recreated such as the White Hall, Throne Room and grand staircase?
I hope so, although according to the ground view posted above, the interior wil be all-modern. What a pity.

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Old July 12th, 2011, 01:27 AM   #33
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really great project.. but i like the current situation, too.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 02:24 AM   #34
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i like the current situation open space looks great.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #35
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I hope so, although according to the ground view posted above, the interior wil be all-modern. What a pity.

That is my fear; sure seems as if none of the interior will be rebuilt. It is silly to make the effort of restoration on the exterior and fail to at least carry that theme into the main entry or some other key area(s) in order to reflect the history and give a reason why the exterior is what it is. The exterior alone will be out of context if nothing on the inside serves to support the restoration.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:21 PM   #36
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The modern facade look rather decent. I'm more of a purist when it comes to rebuilding, and restoration projects but I think it looks rather nice. I just wish Berlin would make more of an effort at rebuilding the Alexanderplatz, the museum island looks so out of place next to the giant radio tower.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #37
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That is my fear; sure seems as if none of the interior will be rebuilt. It is silly to make the effort of restoration on the exterior and fail to at least carry that theme into the main entry or some other key area(s) in order to reflect the history and give a reason why the exterior is what it is. The exterior alone will be out of context if nothing on the inside serves to support the restoration.
Yes, that's a shame, since the interior by Schlüter and Eosander von Göthe was a baroque masterpiece and is well documented.








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Old July 13th, 2011, 07:05 PM   #38
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A masterpiece indeed. Thanks for the detailed images. Beautiful. Here is a photo of the Knights Hall in former times.

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Old July 13th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #39
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That is the Grafensaal (Duke's hall) of Burg Hohenzollern. It's a photography of very recent times and the depicted room ist still there.
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Old July 13th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #40
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Here, the Rittersaal:


(Historisches Stadtschloss)


(Commons) (Although I have my doubts regarding this one)


(Berliner Morgenpost)
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