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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:37 PM   #401
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I am not sure if this is quite the right thread to ask this but, does anyone know where I could find any floor plans for the original city palace for a project I am working on? Just wondering.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 01:30 AM   #403
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It is too bad that they did not at least reconstruct a couple of the rooms from the original Stadtschloss in the new building. In America it is not uncommon to rent for private functions the ballroom or other large room in a mansion that is now a museum. I would think that there would be a market for that in Germany as well. Any thoughts?
Berlin has many dozen a building that can be used on that manner.

The Humoldt Forum will be a World-class museum and research facility.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 06:36 PM   #404
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^ And in addition, there will be 2 partially reconstructed courtyards (one roofed).

There's enough room to have a party at the fresh City Palace.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:10 PM   #405
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This ugly concrete facade is a shame.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:10 PM   #406
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I support the demolition of DDR structures, not because of their architecture, but because of their political significance. Anything that resembles or remembers communist regimes in former Eastern Europe countries under oppression must be sanitized, defaced, erased, so that in - say - 50 years there is nothing to remember that part of Germany was once ruled by commies.

It is a pity that they haven't been so aggressive in removing communist-related architecture. They should have taken the same approach they took after WW2 in West Germany: any Nazi symbol, significant monument, street name/plaque was removed, and so should communist stuff from Berlin.

If Berlin weren't in some deep financial trouble, I'd even say they should build a new (taller - 500m high) observation/TV tower, and tear down the one that currently exists there. It is also bothersome that some Soviet-era monuments remain, such as the one in Treptow Park.
That's a very short sighted argument that simply doesn't hold up. If that attitude was taken with former oppressive regimes Europe would be a very poor place indeed. Many of the iconic architectural gems we admire today were built by despots but that situation is now long forgotten and we have as a result the greatest architectural heritage on earth. I don't personally like most of the commie era structures as they were built to a formula for cheap housing and instant replacement for lost buildings during WW2 but some of their efforts now have an historic interest and are not without some merit. After all, it was exactly the argument you propose that lead to the destruction of the Berlin Schloss, it could easily have been restored but they chose to obliterate it for political reasons.
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Berlin has many dozen a building that can be used on that manner.

The Humoldt Forum will be a World-class museum and research facility.
From the pictures on the first page of this forum I get the impression that there will be plenty of meeting space in the new building. That being the case, some of these meeting rooms being used for private functions is most likely going to happen no matter how much other space is available in Berlin. Frankly, I'm surprised that they didn't include a hotel in the restored building like they did in that former palace in Dresden. Then the Humboldt Forum could be a fully functioning convention center as well as a museum.
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From the pictures on the first page of this forum I get the impression that there will be plenty of meeting space in the new building. That being the case, some of these meeting rooms being used for private functions is most likely going to happen no matter how much other space is available in Berlin. Frankly, I'm surprised that they didn't include a hotel in the restored building like they did in that former palace in Dresden. Then the Humboldt Forum could be a fully functioning convention center as well as a museum.
No.

The Etnologische Museum archives are one of the largest in the World and suffers from a shortage of exhibition space, despite its big building in Dahlem.

Had they separated many rooms for other uses, the museum wouldn't move there. Simple as that.
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Looks like the construction work is going on its fullest..
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This ugly concrete facade is a shame.
While it'll most probably be rather bland, I EXPECT them to use a sandstone or painted cladding there. What makes you think it'll be exposed concrete? That'd be catastrophic, to say the least.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 10:25 AM   #414
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It is too bad that they did not at least reconstruct a couple of the rooms from the original Stadtschloss in the new building. In America it is not uncommon to rent for private functions the ballroom or other large room in a mansion that is now a museum. I would think that there would be a market for that in Germany as well. Any thoughts?
Did you think being able to hire a ballroom for a function is something unique to the USA?

I think the building looks great - and the lighting scheme is great too.

When will it be completed? I'll be back in Berlin next May, so I hope it'll be ready, or at least most of the facade will be up.
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Well, Europe's the place the ballroom got invented, we got gazillions of palaces, mansions, museums and the likes that offer such spaces.

Btw, there's still a total of 25 castles and royal residences in Berlin remaining. Only 2 got destroyed in WW2 (the City Palace and marvellous Monbijou Palace closeby).
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My comments about renting a meeting room for a private function were not intended to offend anyone. I certainly understand that is also a common practice in Germany. I was only saying that it was too bad that they did not include at least a couple of the major rooms from the old palace in the reconstruction. They would have had a use even in the 21st century.
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Most of the rooms are designed in a way that they can be reconstructed later on.
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While it'll most probably be rather bland, I EXPECT them to use a sandstone or painted cladding there. What makes you think it'll be exposed concrete? That'd be catastrophic, to say the least.
Well, it's not about the material they use it's the fact that they mutilate this beautiful building with that facade.
It's so unnecessary. Why not reconstruct the whole building true to the original?
It will look awful.
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Well, it's not about the material they use it's the fact that they mutilate this beautiful building with that facade.
It's so unnecessary. Why not reconstruct the whole building true to the original?
It will look awful.
I agree, i'ts like the modernists just can't resist 'modernizing' everything. I'ts not like i hate modernist architecture either, I mean it would even be nice to see the Columbushaus rebuilt in Potsdamer Platz.
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