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Old June 17th, 2014, 11:53 PM   #781
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Will they put back some original pieces in their original place or the will just copy it ?
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Old June 17th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #782
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Studys for color selection..., it will be the one on the rightside, so the older visualiations with the yellow fassade are not any more that actual.





the make all plasterfigures in this builderhut and in another in north Berlin in Blankenburg...



rightside on the top the elements are allready sandstone and waiting...



Old picture help for reconstruct elements...



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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:07 AM   #783
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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:19 AM   #784
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clay figure did his job...



chiselworks with smaler element of the facade...


Borussia figure gets chisel a statue. Its the first and only one for now financed by donation:







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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:29 AM   #785
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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:40 AM   #786
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Will they put back some original pieces in their original place or the will just copy it ?
no, they cant use the original pieces, they go back to museums, many of this peaces are items on loan.

And often they are in bad structural condition so the cant use them, even if it would be possible to use them.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 05:56 PM   #787
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Palace Details for Sale?

Once they have made the molds for the architectural details that will adorn the reconstructed exterior of the Stadtschloss and made the copies that they need, I would think that there would be a market for additional copies of these. Not only would they make good souvenirs, but they might also be incorporated into other new buildings. Just a thought.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 06:28 PM   #788
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Amazing craftsmanship!!! Great respect to these sculptors!!!

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One of those short, but very hard to answer questions.

My reservations about this building run something like this: The original palace was a magnificent building, albeit with its roots in a social order I dislike very much. The order that created the building has been swept away by history so its reason for being no longer exists.

Now, had the building not been demolished after the war, it would have been right and proper for it to have been repaired and preserved with a new use. But that didn't happen and it was destroyed. Everything about the palace was history.

In its place was constructed a new building which very much reflected the ideology of that time. The Palast der Republik stamped in a very proud way the image of the communist era, which in its turn became history. Again, I would have kept the building because of what it had been.

Architecturally the old GDR "palace" was bold statement, something that looked to the future as seen at that time. In its way it was as bold an architectural statement as the original palace had been, built using the technology of the time, as the original palace had been.

But it was not to be preserved, instead it's been swept away to be replaced by a fake palace that isn't a palace, that looks old but isn't. Don't get me wrong, I think the use it's to be put to is excellent, but there is nothing forward looking about the visual presentation of the construction. For that reason it's not an "honest" building and it is a bit of a fake.

What does it say about modern Berlin? Perhaps it says a city that wants to forget its past? I would say that's never a good idea.

As I say I will come and see it when it's finished if I'm able to do so and I dare say I'll find it stunning.

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I agree with much of this, however, this building is far from not being hones, quite on the contrary it reflects very well the ideology of today's society. Just like the two previous palaces. Something you touch on when you say the build says something about Berlin.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:22 PM   #790
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Once they have made the molds for the architectural details that will adorn the reconstructed exterior of the Stadtschloss and made the copies that they need, I would think that there would be a market for additional copies of these. Not only would they make good souvenirs, but they might also be incorporated into other new buildings. Just a thought.
you mean they should use this details for other buidlings too?

I am not sure what they gonna do with this plastics later...
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Old June 21st, 2014, 06:15 PM   #791
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Selling the Architectural Details

Yes, why not sell some of the architectural details? Some of the smaller pieces would look nice in a garden if used as emphasis. Some of the larger ones could be incorporated into other buildings. Some people like the idea of having something that is a copy of something to be found in a historic structure. One of the ladies in the office where I used to work even had a copy of a small stone carving from one of the English cathedrals on her desk as a paperweight.
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Old June 22nd, 2014, 08:05 PM   #792
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This is truly amazing!
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Old June 25th, 2014, 10:46 PM   #793
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Another Palace Reconstructed: Vilnius

Another royal palace that has been reconstructed in recent years is the palace of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania in Vilnius. Like the one in Berlin, it was rebuilt from the ground up. Unlike the one in Berlin, much of the interior was also restored to its original state.

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Lustgarten - Cathedral, Old Museum, Humboldtforum :-)

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Another Palace Reconstructed: Budapest

Another royal palace that was rebuilt after its destruction in World War II was the Royal Palace in Budapest (possibly better known today as Buda Castle).
Unlike Berlin, the exterior walls were saved by the Communists while the interior was rebuilt to serve its new purpose as an art museum and national library.

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Another royal palace that was rebuilt after its destruction in World War II was the Royal Palace in Budapest (possibly better known today as Buda Castle).
Unlike Berlin, the exterior walls were saved by the Communists while the interior was rebuilt to serve its new purpose as an art museum and national library.


This statement is inaccurate. Nor the exterior and the interior walls were saved.











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Buda Castle

Actually, we are both right. The exterior walls were saved. However, the resulting new building was not faithfully copied as is being the case in Berlin. The existing building in Budapest was deliberately made to look different from the old palace by the Communists, even to the point of removing surviving sculpture like that over the entrance that was a tribute to the Hapsburg dynasty. I was just trying to be brief with my comments and not include all of the details.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 05:55 PM   #798
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Old July 8th, 2014, 12:00 AM   #799
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They had to made a compromiss, there have been also lot more modern options, so I think we could be happy with this, the modern parts maybe can be changed in 20-30 years!
I would bet that some of the modern parts will be changed in time but as it stands it can only be a major contribution to the city and the fact that only 20 years or so back it was unthinkable that it would ever be rebuilt at all is in itself something to celebrate - can't wait to go back and see the progress next year.
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First 1-2 highrises around tv tower are coming, but I think we need some more.

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