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Old September 3rd, 2014, 09:02 PM   #841
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Those cranes belong to the State Library, the State Opera and adjoining buildings, the metro station construction site, the Kronprinzengärten (Crownprince's Gardens) construction site and finally the Schinkelplatz (Schinkel Square) construction site. There's still very much going on in this area.
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Old September 4th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #842
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More Detail, Please

Could you share a little more detail about the Unter den Linden construction? I was not aware that they were working on the Opera or the Crown Prince's Palace structures. Also, are you saying that they are building a new subway station in that vicinity as well? Unfortunately, I have not been in that area since 2010.

Thank you for any information that you can provide.
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Old September 4th, 2014, 09:53 PM   #843
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Here you can see more about the Opera and library.
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Old September 5th, 2014, 03:17 AM   #844
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Thank you

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Thank you for the link. This explains a lot of things of which I was unaware. Also, some good photos on that site.
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Old September 5th, 2014, 04:13 AM   #845
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Also, are you saying that they are building a new subway station in that vicinity as well?
They are building the U5 extension from Alexanderplatz to the Hauptbahnhof (finally merging U5 and U55 at Brandenburger Tor).
Anyway, between the Staatsoper, the Schlöss, the U-Bahn and other big construction works in the Museumsinsel, that area is currently a whole big building site. I've been there in 2010 as well, then last August, and the difference was shocking.
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Old September 7th, 2014, 06:32 PM   #846
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I have a question about the building adjacent to the Stadtschloss that has a curtain over it that makes it look like it has a brick facade: Are there plans to rebuild it to look as it does on the print of the curtain? I certainly hope so as it would be a handsome building.
Yes, it`s going to look exactly as on the curtain!

About the concrete: You know how Germans are. Always trying to top things. In this case they are not just rebuilding, no they are also building an ultra low energy consumption building. They put up a concrete shell, on top isolation and on top of that real self standing brick. The thickness of that wall is the very same as of the original. In order to add the isolation they replaced half of the thick brick wall with concrete! There was some debate over it as you can imagine! Some wanted to use hollow ziegel, like the rest of town uses it. You don`t need isolation if you use those ziegel. But because the wall would not contain any brick ziegel at all, they decided to go half old way, half new.
Now the building uses only 5%!!! of the heating than the old one would have! Because they also going to add an in ground heating/cooling system. Water get`s pumped down hunderts of meters into the ground and back up.
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Old September 13th, 2014, 04:13 PM   #847
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This is one of the most extraordinary building projects currently going on in the world. Not so very long ago it was assumed, quite naturally, that this great building was lost forever, now we see it rising again as a symbol that civilization is not yet destroyed.
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Old September 14th, 2014, 05:07 AM   #848
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This is one of the most extraordinary building projects currently going on in the world. Not so very long ago it was assumed, quite naturally, that this great building was lost forever, now we see it rising again as a symbol that civilization is not yet destroyed.
Well said Cameronpaul. As generations pass, the greatest losses of war are physical and natural features lost to the destruction. Not because life is less valuable but because generations alive today and tomorrow are denied access to places that tell the stories of our past.
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Well said Cameronpaul. As generations pass, the greatest losses of war are physical and natural features lost to the destruction. Not because life is less valuable but because generations alive today and tomorrow are denied access to places that tell the stories of our past.
How wonderfully said UrbanMyth!
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Old September 16th, 2014, 01:40 AM   #850
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Old September 16th, 2014, 04:35 AM   #851
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Well said Cameronpaul. As generations pass, the greatest losses of war are physical and natural features lost to the destruction. Not because life is less valuable but because generations alive today and tomorrow are denied access to places that tell the stories of our past.
This is a fascinating project and I peek in at this thread from time to time to see how it is getting on. I hope to go to Berlin again and see it when it is completed.

It is debatable though whether this is telling the story of the past because it is effectively erasing a very important era in Berlin and Germany's history - notably the communist era when the modernist east German parliament building occupied the site.

I understand that there wasn't great enthusiasm for preserving the building and it was riddled with asbestos but it is odd for a building that played such a part in Germany's post war history should be completely erased from history.
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This is a fascinating project and I peek in at this thread from time to time to see how it is getting on. I hope to go to Berlin again and see it when it is completed.

It is debatable though whether this is telling the story of the past because it is effectively erasing a very important era in Berlin and Germany's history - notably the communist era when the modernist east German parliament building occupied the site.

I understand that there wasn't great enthusiasm for preserving the building and it was riddled with asbestos but it is odd for a building that played such a part in Germany's post war history should be completely erased from history.
It's far odder that a building that played such an important part in Germany's and Berlin's history for half a millennium was completely erased from history
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Visited Berlin in 2000. Can't wait to see it in 2020.
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Old September 16th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #854
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It's far odder that a building that played such an important part in Germany's and Berlin's history for half a millennium was completely erased from history
I'm not criticising the project. It looks like it will be a really great addition to the city.

I am just thinking how people in fifty or a hundred years time will see the City Palace and may be completely unaware of its turbulent history.

The sister project to this, I see as being the proposal in Paris to reconstruct the Palace of the Tuileries, which was destroyed by the Paris commune in 1871. For a building to reappear after so long an interval is very unusual.
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The second picture shows the south-side..., to much stone.
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The second picture shows the south-side..., to much stone.
Is that for real? The square on this side of the palace is going to be a friggin parking lot?
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