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Old April 10th, 2015, 07:25 AM   #1081
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My hopes for the east façade go in the direction of a truly successful example in Stresemannstrasse . Here two pictures ...



What is so "successful" about that facade? Looks rather cheap and lifeless...would have looked a heaps better as stone cladding with a bit more structure.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 11:09 AM   #1082
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Looks bether then many other concrete facades and it would match well with the other original sandstone facades I think...
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Old April 10th, 2015, 05:17 PM   #1083
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We'll get ornaments in sandstone on the baroque facade, but the vast surface area will be covered in plaster and paint.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 11:18 PM   #1084
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Old April 11th, 2015, 12:20 AM   #1085
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Old April 11th, 2015, 10:58 AM   #1086
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Personally, I would have deleted the dome from the new building. The building actually looks complete without it and it serves no purpose except to restore what was there before the war. Since they have gotten so creative with the east side of the new building, don't tell me that they couldn't have just skipped adding it to the reconstruction and saved that money.


I take it that you never saw the Palast der Republik. Perhaps you would prefer that they demolish this Schloß, and rebuild the Palast, as that does not have a dome. In fact, it had no sole.......!

The need for rebuilding the Berliner Stadtschloss is to try an regain an interpretation of lost architecture; a grand building lost in the madness of a crazy war. They can only do so much in today's expensive and demanding world, but the dome is an integral part of the rebuild. Perhaps the new building will not have the fine detail and grandeur of the original, but it must at least be a fitting interpretation.

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Old April 11th, 2015, 11:37 AM   #1087
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I was wondering, with all this reconstruction going on around Berlin, has there be any thought into rebuilding the Denkmalskirche on the ugly and barren space left on the side of the Berliner Dom? It is so sad to see the scar left on the Dom where our glorious Communist comrades decided to blow up Berlin's historical past. Again! The building is incomplete as it is at the present time.

But, as with everything, it is all about money. Such a project would not come cheap. Perhaps dear Mr Putin can fund it..........
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Old April 11th, 2015, 08:02 PM   #1088
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The need for rebuilding the Berliner Stadtschloss is to try an regain an interpretation of lost architecture; a grand building lost in the madness of a crazy war. They can only do so much in today's expensive and demanding world, but the dome is an integral part of the rebuild. Perhaps the new building will not have the fine detail and grandeur of the original, but it must at least be a fitting interpretation.
If only the same could be said for the Reichstag....

If there is one thing I hate more than modern architecure it's disgusting hybrids/poor restorations.
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Old April 12th, 2015, 02:55 AM   #1089
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I take it that you never saw the Palast der Republik. Perhaps you would prefer that they demolish this Schloß, and rebuild the Palast, as that does not have a dome. In fact, it had no sole.......!

Personally, I always hated the Palast der Republik. For the most part the Communists seemed to go out of their way to design ugly cheaply constructed buildings that reflected their overall misguided philosophy that what people really wanted was poor quality in everything.

I just think that the dome is optional at best. What I really don't see is the abrupt change in architecture to modernist on the east front of the new building or going to the trouble of reconstructing some of the interior historic walls. If the interior is really going to be modern, mixing modern and baroque is just about as ugly as what the Communists did.
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The interiors won't be "modern" or even designed all that much, but rather functional. They will seem somewhat unclad, not pushing itself in the spotlight. It will be all about the expositions. This is due to the plan to reconstruct interiors one after another, starting with the gorgeous Gigantentreppe ("Giant Stairway") and the Schweizer Saal ("Swiss Saloon") being the first to come.

Schlüter's "Giant Stairway", probably the 1st interior reconstruction:

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More interior views: http://berliner-schloss.de/en/the-an...ws-amber-room/
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Old April 13th, 2015, 07:30 PM   #1091
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Leftside the Foreign Office , the State Council building rightside ...





View with State Council building (Staatsratsgebaeude) , Neuer Marstall (new stables), Rotes Rathaus (Town Hall).



Sophienchurch and northwestern palace corner.





The symbolic first stone is now gone and now only comes once the insulation / seal.





narrow and square brick rows alternately...



Alcove for gutter water pipes ?



The first elements of Silesian and Saxon sandstone wait.







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Old April 13th, 2015, 09:30 PM   #1092
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narrow and square brick rows alternately...


Why like that?
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Old April 13th, 2015, 09:37 PM   #1093
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Nice update Ludi, it is amazing to see how to build is coming together. I look forward to September when I am next in Berlin. It is going to look so strange seeing this huge building where only a few years ago there was only an open grassed space. The last time I saw the new build was last August.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 10:45 PM   #1094
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I take it that you never saw the Palast der Republik. Perhaps you would prefer that they demolish this Schloß, and rebuild the Palast, as that does not have a dome. In fact, it had no sole.......!

Personally, I always hated the Palast der Republik. For the most part the Communists seemed to go out of their way to design ugly cheaply constructed buildings that reflected their overall misguided philosophy that what people really wanted was poor quality in everything.

I just think that the dome is optional at best. What I really don't see is the abrupt change in architecture to modernist on the east front of the new building or going to the trouble of reconstructing some of the interior historic walls. If the interior is really going to be modern, mixing modern and baroque is just about as ugly as what the Communists did.

I totally agree that the Palast was a terrible looking building. I never went inside, the outside was enough... But, I suppose that the East Berliners at the time were proud to some extent of their modern building. Just think about all drab and dreary war damaged buildings that were plentiful in the East right up to the Wall coming down. But, the Palast is no more. I have to say that I prefer old architecture to modern, which is why I am glad to see the old Schloss rebuilt, even though it is a modern construction of concrete and steel made to look something like the original. The feel of Unter Den Linden is still one of great architecture; grand old buildings framing a historical heart of the city. The Brandenburger Tor at one end, the Berliner Dom at the other. Yes there are many terrible looking modern buildings along the way, another tragedy of the result of war, but look past them, and forget them. The new Schloss will be a fine addition to the architectural gems in the area, even if it is a fake. But I to am not convinced by the East facade, I feel that it might ruin the whole thing, and I am not really to sure why the planners have gone ahead with this modern gimmick. Do one thing or the other, not mix two opposing styles. This modern facade will look out of place with the Dom one side, and the Neuer Marstall the other side. But, we will have to wait and see. Perhaps it may well look really cool in the end. I am just looking forward to seeing the building completed.
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Heute besuchte Bundesbauministerin Barbara Hendricks die Baustelle und war dabei, als das erste Sandsteinelement der Barrackenfassade hier einfuhr.
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I see the first window installed on the Sudfassade.
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Old April 15th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #1098
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The palace is coming along nicely! Great to see the rebirth of the intimate urban spaces around the palace that were lost when it was demolished, such as schlossplatz along the south facade. Does anyone know if there are plans to relocate the Neptune Fountain back to it's proper place along the south facade?
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If only the squares would indeed come back... Currently they are planned in a very simplified form. There's still a way to go to get the former beauty of the Palace's vicinity back.
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