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Old April 16th, 2015, 01:19 PM   #1101
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Neptune Fountain at Schlossplatz / Neptunbrunnen

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Does anyone know if there are plans to relocate the Neptune Fountain back to it's proper place along the south facade?
There were plans indeed, but currently it's a bit of what we call "Hickhack" in German. For the near future, the revitalisation of parts of Berlin's historical old town across the Palace are planned, see this thread. That's where the fountain is now. Many people call for the fountain to be moved back to the side of the Palace, but it's not decided yet, we probably need to get rid of Regula Lüscher first, what likely happens in 2016 (she's in charge of the Senate's urban planning).

The Neptune Fountain / Neptunbrunnen (built 1891), currently in front of Berlin's Red City Hall (Rotes Rathaus):


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ont_-_2752.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...9641029%29.jpg


Neptunbrunnen by D Sefik, on Flickr


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Neptun_4a.jpg


FOL 2011 - Fernsehturm & Neptunbrunnen - Festival of Lights by Marcus Klepper - Berliner1017, on Flickr
More Festival of Lights: https://flic.kr/p/djJEdV & https://flic.kr/p/chA2gy

When it was still next to the City Palace:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._-_um_1900.jpg

Schlossplatz (Schloßplatz)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...hlossplatz.jpg

It's massive. And massively lovely.
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Old April 16th, 2015, 01:33 PM   #1102
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Great images there Erbse! Hopefully they,ll do the right thing and move it back where it belongs. I can imagine that when the palace is finally complete and landscaping and traffic
issues around Schlossplatz are worked out that city planning officials will come to their senses and see the relocated fountain as a great "finishing touch" to the heart of Berlin!

I'd also love to see the pediment and fine statuary that used to adorn the north facade of the Neuer Marstall rebuilt as well, but I suppose now I'm just "nitpicking"! haha
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Old April 16th, 2015, 03:18 PM   #1103
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Going back to the issue of the palace dome, I'm in total agreement that rebuilding the palace without it would have been a terrible omission! Though not included in the original Baroque plan as envisioned by Schluter, it's construction by Stuler in 1845 (to a design by Schinkel no less!) was an important addition and added to Berlin's wonderful "domed" skyline.

It's reconstruction goes a long way to restoring another piece of Schinkel's vision for Berlin. Imagine Berlin without the Neu Wache, the Schauspielhaus or the Alte Museum...all works by Schinkel!

One thing I'm not so clear about is whether or not the two cupola's located at either end of the west facade will be rebuilt. Though originally a later addition to the palace, I've seen reconstruction images with them added and others without them, and judging by the new roof construction, it would appear as though they won't be reincorporated into the new build. Frankly, I'm not sure their omission is such a bad thing as they did appear to be an "awkward" addition. Does anyone know if they'll make into the reconstruction?
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Old April 16th, 2015, 03:50 PM   #1104
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One thing I'm not so clear about is whether or not the two cupola's located at either end of the west facade will be rebuilt.
They're not going to be rebuilt. They just recently completely ruled this out.
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Old April 16th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #1105
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Very soon, Schinkel's dome will once again tower over Schinkelplatz!
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Old April 17th, 2015, 03:22 PM   #1106
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The figurines along the roofline are also postponed as an option for later times. They aren't structurally needed, so if there are enough donations, they can come back once the current project is finished.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 06:21 PM   #1107
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The figurines along the roofline are also postponed as an option for later times. They aren't structurally needed, so if there are enough donations, they can come back once the current project is finished.
Am I right in thinking that a lot of the rubble from the Schloss destruction has been located buried at sites around Berlin? Items from the Schloss facades such as the figurative sculptures and other ornate stone work have been located, albeit damaged and broken up. But from broken pieces, new replicas can be made! And if good pieces of sculptures, window surrounds, columns, capitals and fine cornices are found, then these could be displayed within the new Schloss as historical museum pieces.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 07:55 AM   #1108
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Does anyone know the fate of the equestrian statue of Kaiser Wilhelm that used to sit in the middle of the memorial in front of the old schloss? I know the communists removed it when they destroyed the schloss and old memorial but was the statue preserved and relocated to a museum or was it completely destroyed as well?



If it still exists then perhaps a location could be found for it around the new scloss?

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Old April 18th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #1109
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All that remains of the National Kaiser Wilhelm Monument are the lions which have been relocated to the Zoo.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 06:43 PM   #1110
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there still exist one eagle too...

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Old April 18th, 2015, 10:38 PM   #1111
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I didn't know that eagle survived also! Very nice reconstruction!
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The Frauenkirche in Dresden successfully incorporated surviving segments into the reconstruction. It is hoped the same can be accomplished with the Schloss.
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Old April 19th, 2015, 03:59 PM   #1113
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First, an imperial palace is built. Then ....?
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Then we get se Emperor back?

But no Austrian, thanks.
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Does anyone know the fate of the equestrian statue of Kaiser Wilhelm that used to sit in the middle of the memorial in front of the old schloss? I know the communists removed it when they destroyed the schloss and old memorial but was the statue preserved and relocated to a museum or was it completely destroyed as well?
If it still exists then perhaps a location could be found for it around the new schloss?
That memorial was basically the memorial for the re-unification of Germany 1871
Unfortunately, it became the name Kaiser Wilhelm memorial. It survived WW2 but was raised later. Most pieces where smashed after demolition on purpose, like those of the schloss. They even gardet at night, to prevent people from stealing and saving pieces. Workers where threatened, for a downsizing of there own condos or rental units, if there was any hesitation to dismantle the national memorial.
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Extrablatt

Today I got post again . Three very interesting pages I once scanned.

Of the 105 million donation requirements are now 46 million together , 59 million € is still missing and this year again we need at least 15 million € in order to be able to stay on schedule and to be able to assign the necessary orders.






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After 70 years of cheap modern architecture, it amazes me that this can still be produced.
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I am quite happy they made the decision to retain the original Prussian iconography here, as opposed to just outright removing or neglecting it as if Prussia never existed. It absolutely infuriates me when "Restorations" do that, and I am happy it is not present here.
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After 70 years of cheap modern architecture, it amazes me that this can still be produced.
Now if only we could put the same skill into creating original buildings too.......

A futile dream, I know.
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Old April 23rd, 2015, 09:32 PM   #1120
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This is great!!!
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