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Old October 1st, 2015, 06:23 AM   #1481
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I love me an aerial.. but yikes, the building doesn't even look centered/paralleled to the lot…????
Yikes, the stupid drive by comments in this thread sometimes...
Anyway, welcome to Europe, where centuries old cities, their buildings, streets and squares are asymmetrical, bent and crooked.
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Old October 1st, 2015, 07:29 PM   #1482
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Does anybody know if the palace is being rebuilt at exactly the same elevation? I worry sometimes whether it's being rebuilt at its original relative height to surroundings, or to the modern street level. And are the original foundations being used? They probably had to destroy some original foundation to plant I-beams on if its to the original footprint...
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 08:39 AM   #1483
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The elevation of the reconstructed building appears to be identical to that of the original. And, judging from photos early in this thread and elsewhere, the original foundations are gone. The entire foundation and the cellar structure appear to have been left intact, filled, and covered over when the original palace was blown up. The eastern portion would have been entirely destroyed during construction of the modern Palast der Republik, with the western segment left undisturbed beneath the grass covered ground. Photos show the western portion of the foundation and the cellars unearthed in preparation of construction of the new palace. The cellars seem to be remarkably intact, with stairwells, arched doorways, and tile-covered floors. The foundation and much of the cellars were bulldozed, but a sizeable portion of the cellars were left intact and preserved beneath the new building.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 12:57 AM   #1484
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Aerial of the Stadtschloss:


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Old October 15th, 2015, 06:13 AM   #1485
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Festival of Lights 2015


FOL 2015- New Berliner Stadtschloss by wirdsbald, en Flickr


Festival Of Lights: Berliner Stadtschloss by Michael Krolop, en Flickr
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Old October 15th, 2015, 09:05 AM   #1486
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The above brought an instant smile to my face. How clever, delightful, and hauntingly eerie at the same time.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 10:16 PM   #1487
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Nice! But it will look 10 times bether in real for sure.
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Old October 16th, 2015, 06:51 PM   #1488
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Or even better! Berlin FoL turns out great again.


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And some historical pics too.

"Rittersaal" / Hall of Knights



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"Schwarze-Adler-Kammer" / black eagle chamber



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Old October 16th, 2015, 07:02 PM   #1489
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The interiors were absolutely spectacular and the Palace was one of the most beautiful royal palaces in the world. I can't believe that someone would purposely destroy such a beautiful building. I hope that one day we will see the reconstruction of at least some parts of the interior, as God knows how expensive the whole interior would be to reconstruct.
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Old October 18th, 2015, 12:56 PM   #1491
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Old October 18th, 2015, 04:01 PM   #1492
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Hello guys, I found a video of the schloss in YouTube. Nicely done really
http://youtu.be/gT9kJeBPFl8
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Old October 19th, 2015, 12:58 AM   #1493
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Question: Is the reconstruction with concrete faithful to the original? I understand concrete technology was "rediscovered" around the time the original was built.
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Question: Is the reconstruction with concrete faithful to the original? I understand concrete technology was "rediscovered" around the time the original was built

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I like to quote myself. The original had no concrete

About the concrete: You know how Germans are. Always trying to top things. In this case they are not just rebuilding, no they are also building an ultra low energy consumption building. They put up a concrete shell, on top isolation and on top of that real self standing brick. The thickness of that wall is the very same as of the original. In order to add the isolation they replaced half of the thick brick wall with concrete! There was some debate over it as you can imagine! Some wanted to use hollow ziegel, like the rest of town uses it. You don`t need isolation if you use those ziegel. But because the wall would not contain any brick ziegel at all, they decided to go half old way, half new.
Now the building uses only 5%!!! of the heating than the old one would have! Because they also going to add an in ground heating/cooling system. Water get`s pumped down hunderts of meters into the ground and back up.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 05:12 PM   #1495
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It has been fascinating watching a palace being reconstructed using modern methods. I've read that, in original construction centuries ago, the amount of brick used required a wait of 3 or 4 years for the superstructure to dry out before plaster, stucco, and other finished touches could be added.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 09:55 AM   #1496
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I suppose it also gives the architects justification to the modern wing facing the river. Regardless, you'll have some authenticity elitists bitching about the whole palace being built out of concrete with a modern interior. It's better than nothing, and while the Palace of the Republic was one of the better East German buildings (along with the TV Tower which complemented it), it was shoddy construction and represented a regime worse than the Prussians and Nazis combined.

The idea of "authenticity" reminds me of in Japan, where castles were rebuilt with concrete after Word War II, despite many being destroyed decades or even centuries before the bombings. Concrete was cheaper and quicker to build with, and the technology to make wood stronger at the time was nonexistent. Also, Western zoning laws enacted since the Meiji Era prohibited wooden structures so tall.
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Old October 21st, 2015, 05:40 PM   #1497
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You're not saying that energy conservation justifies the ugly new spree facade, are you? If those insulation methods work on the rest of the palace, they'd work on the original spree facade as well.

Also, the reconstructed Japanese castles don't have hideous modernist walls integrated into their beautiful design, do they?
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Old October 23rd, 2015, 04:54 PM   #1500
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Stadtschloss Interiors

Were the main rooms of the Stadtschloss redecorated sometime in the late 19th century? The vintage photos show rooms that are wildly over ornamented in what I would take to be high Victorian style. At best, there appears to be little from the baroque era reflected in the photos.
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