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Old May 29th, 2016, 11:25 PM   #1841
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When the Nazis paved over the Lustgarten in the 1930s, what did they do with the statue of Friederich Wilhelm IV that used to stand there? (At least I believe that was who it was.) Did that statue survive the war and where did it end up since it is no longer in the restored Lustgarten? Just curious.
I believe the statue was of Frederich Wilhelm III was destroyed in the war. Two sculptures at the base had been saved and placed in the new Nikolaiviertel.
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Old May 30th, 2016, 11:38 AM   #1842
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Under the Nazis the monument was reduced in height and placed at the edge of the Lustgarten to make place for a paved parade ground.

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Old May 30th, 2016, 01:11 PM   #1843
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I think the modern facade has a fluent and wonderful dialog with the Fernsehturm. The hard modern lines have to do more with the Alexanderplatz surroundings, it connects the historical with the new. I think it was a good decision.
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Old May 30th, 2016, 02:54 PM   #1844
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And it is connection with the Palast too
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Old May 30th, 2016, 05:18 PM   #1845
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Aerial view of Stadtschloss + visualisations for comparison

The Palace construction site and its surroundings from above:


Full resolution: http://static.bz-berlin.de/data/uplo...1464590438.jpg

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http://www.eldaco.net/berliner-schloss/
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Old May 30th, 2016, 06:33 PM   #1846
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What a shame that an italian architect has designed a so ugly and cheap façade. Any other alternative would have been better.
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Old May 30th, 2016, 07:56 PM   #1847
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It's incredible how Berlin was beautiful before the II Word War!
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Old May 30th, 2016, 08:16 PM   #1848
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I think the modern facade has a fluent and wonderful dialog with the Fernsehturm. The hard modern lines have to do more with the Alexanderplatz surroundings, it connects the historical with the new. I think it was a good decision.
The human element is notably absent from this equation. Therein lies the problem. How about a dialogue with the people who are going to be living with these hard lines, both today and tomorrow?
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Old May 31st, 2016, 05:21 AM   #1849
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BERLIN | City Palace Reconstruction (Stadtschloss) - "Humboldt-Forum" | U/C

I wish they built it exactly as it was ...

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Old May 31st, 2016, 08:36 AM   #1850
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Will the cafe be constructed on the roof? Or this idea is rejected?
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Old May 31st, 2016, 12:22 PM   #1851
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Everything for the café was prepared, so it'll likely be there. I also heard a contractor was found there, but can't approve it currently.
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Old May 31st, 2016, 03:11 PM   #1852
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I hope that there won't be any problems with opening the cafe, since it will have a breathtaking view over Unter den Linden.
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Old May 31st, 2016, 05:38 PM   #1853
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It's incredible how Berlin was beautiful before the II Word War!
The shape of modern Berlin is the Nazi's legacy for the following 1000 years.
Hitler faced death so many times before the carpet bombing started.....
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Old June 1st, 2016, 12:33 AM   #1854
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Will the cafe be constructed on the roof? Or this idea is rejected?
Yes, it will be constructed. The German government has already funded it with over 5 million €.

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I hope that there won't be any problems with opening the cafe, since it will have a breathtaking view over Unter den Linden.
The view from Unter den Linden to the cafe will however be much less breathtaking. You are aware that the cafe will be visible as an unsightly modernist box from the ground? Seen from the Lustgarten it will even obscure parts of the dome. Many people, including well known architects, were against this addition on the roof. But neither the Humbodt Forum Foundation nor the Government cared...

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Old June 1st, 2016, 08:06 AM   #1855
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What a shame that an italian architect has designed a so ugly and cheap façade. Any other alternative would have been better.
The Bundestag required that three sides be recreated with the east side left up to the selected architect. It is what it is. There will be many decades to deal with the east side if it needs to be rebuilt at all. It's a bit too Speerian for me but I can live with it. We are lucky we have three sides recreated.
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 03:36 AM   #1856
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The Bundestag required that three sides be recreated with the east side left up to the selected architect. It is what it is. There will be many decades to deal with the east side if it needs to be rebuilt at all. It's a bit too Speerian for me but I can live with it. We are lucky we have three sides recreated.
The comparison is even an insult to Speer, who, for all his political failings, was at least a competent architect!
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 06:21 PM   #1857
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The comparison is even an insult to Speer, who, for all his political failings, was at least a competent architect!
Political failings? Tell that to sixty million people.
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 06:22 PM   #1858
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Please take such discussions to the Skybars if needed, thanks.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 09:40 AM   #1859
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I am happy to see the highly detailed design and the statues that will be restored. Elegant, handsome and imposing.

The scale of this project is extraordinary.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:52 PM   #1860
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This project is beyond stunning. The modern facade is brilliant, it is so boring it makes the whole building surreal. Barroque facades are heavenly beautiful.
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